dagnogo
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Post by dagnogo on Apr 14, 2015 20:20:13 GMT
. The gap between the board and the fans does not exist. After the initial gloom of relegation and promises of action and pritests, crowds are up, and Gasheads see the ignominy of being outside the Football League as a fun opportunity go go ground hopping. There's none as blind as those whom choose not to see...[/quote] What's your point? Where is there evidence of fan dissatisfaction with Higgs on any scale? He's taken us from mid table in League 1 to hoping Gateshead beat Barnet in the Conference, two stadium schemes have gone tits up costing the club millions in borrowed money, protests are non-existent and crowds are up. It's all well and good posting philosophical quotes but why not explain yourself? |
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Post by 1883hanhamgas on Apr 14, 2015 20:21:32 GMT
£15 ticket £20 return on a coach aint dear to have a potentially fantastic day out .......you will be gutted if we win and barnet dont !!!
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Post by ismellgas on Apr 14, 2015 20:26:32 GMT
He could be a hero in a month when sainsburys cough up,he might extend the roof into the east end and freeze the price of pasties for next season
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Post by ismellgas on Apr 14, 2015 20:28:49 GMT
He could be a hero in a month when sainsburys cough up,he might extend the roof into the east end and freeze the price of pasties for next season That's what I thought,are a lot of our supporters on the rock and roll |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 14, 2015 20:36:45 GMT
. The gap between the board and the fans does not exist. After the initial gloom of relegation and promises of action and pritests, crowds are up, and Gasheads see the ignominy of being outside the Football League as a fun opportunity go go ground hopping. There's none as blind as those whom choose not to see... What's your point? Where is there evidence of fan dissatisfaction with Higgs on any scale? He's taken us from mid table in League 1 to hoping Gateshead beat Barnet in the Conference, two stadium schemes have gone tits up costing the club millions in borrowed money, protests are non-existent and crowds are up. It's all well and good posting philosophical quotes but why not explain yourself?[/quote] You will see if we fail to go up. There are many on this board whom post negative and sometimes valid posts, it's the title of the thread. We are doing well on the pitch, which staves off all of day to day criticism. I think there are all of supporters whom won't forgive the current encumbrance until our football league status has been restored and even upped it a notch to League1. The cracks haven't really been repaired. And you summed it up....Higgs taken us from league team to wanting two non league teams to draw, just to give us a chance to restore where we once were(hilarious!) on his watch. Fair enough. Apart from our league position and on field form, I still fail to see what higgs has done to reward the amazing support he claims we are? Can you name one thing?? |
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Post by dagnogo on Apr 14, 2015 20:44:22 GMT
O2O2....
I dislike Higgs immensely. And Dunford and Bradshaw and the rest. They've done nothing to reward fans, I agree - because they don't have to.
My concern is that the same people who promised action after relegation will do so again if we don't go up, then we'll have the summer and it'll peter out.
This forum is a tiny percentage of the matchday crowd.
Anyone who tries to do anything gets worn down by abuse from the one-eyed idiot element, those who'd buy Rovers loo roll if Barry charged them £20 a sheet, those who still believe that Geoff and friends deserve credit.
At some clubs, there'd have been riots. At Rovers, we have a moan, and we move on because hey I've never been to Alfreton before and it's a ground to tick off.
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Post by dido on Apr 14, 2015 20:46:45 GMT
Am I the only one who does not feel a need for a "reward" for supporting my team/club?
Blame culture...reward culture, innit?
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Post by lostinspace on Apr 14, 2015 20:49:29 GMT
O2O2.... I dislike Higgs immensely. And Dunford and Bradshaw and the rest. They've done nothing to reward fans, I agree - because they don't have to. My concern is that the same people who promised action after relegation will do so again if we don't go up, then we'll have the summer and it'll peter out. This forum is a tiny percentage of the matchday crowd. Anyone who tries to do anything gets worn down by abuse from the one-eyed idiot element, those who'd buy Rovers loo roll if Barry charged them £20 a sheet, those who still believe that Geoff and friends deserve credit. At some clubs, there'd have been riots. At Rovers, we have a moan, and we move on because hey I've never been to Alfreton before and it's a ground to tick off. all of the above.....bar the last phrase in the last sentence...........don't do away travel...........come to that don't do home travel ..................because of the above...... no intention of going to Alfreton unless its somewhere on the journey to where we are going beyond there |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 14, 2015 20:52:24 GMT
Empathise, Daggers old bean.
And we are kindred spirit because I respect your postings.
Still, the gap exists and I'm sorry, it's shameful the club have done very little.
I give credit for keeping season tickets same price for the richer fans that can afford it.
I give credit for starting a 5/10 flexi ticket.
I get a distinct feeling it wasn't a directors idea in the first place, but hey don't look a gift horse..
Oh...and we've got goalcam. Almost forgot. I take it all back..
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Post by dagnogo on Apr 14, 2015 20:57:07 GMT
Empathise, Daggers old bean. And we are kindred spirit because I respect your postings. Still, the gap exists and I'm sorry, it's shameful the club have done very little. I give credit for keeping season tickets same price for the richer fans that can afford it. I give credit for starting a 5/10 flexi ticket. I get a distinct feeling it wasn't a directors idea in the first place, but hey don't look a gift horse.. Oh...and we've got goalcam. Almost forgot. I take it all back.. And I yours. Apologies for being curt earlier. I so want there to be an appetite for change. If we go up, Higgs will be the hero to the thousands of easily-pleased. If we don't, he'll make Sainsbury's the enemy. We might go up this year, we might even get a new stadium (no laughing at the back!). But we won't be the club we can be while any of the spivs who've run the show for the last 15 years are still there. |
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Post by markczgas on Apr 14, 2015 21:38:04 GMT
O2O2.... I dislike Higgs immensely. And Dunford and Bradshaw and the rest. They've done nothing to reward fans, I agree - because they don't have to. My concern is that the same people who promised action after relegation will do so again if we don't go up, then we'll have the summer and it'll peter out. This forum is a tiny percentage of the matchday crowd. Anyone who tries to do anything gets worn down by abuse from the one-eyed idiot element, those who'd buy Rovers loo roll if Barry charged them £20 a sheet, those who still believe that Geoff and friends deserve credit. At some clubs, there'd have been riots. At Rovers, we have a moan, and we move on because hey I've never been to Alfreton before and it's a ground to tick off. I was one of those who started The Wellie Group - when we set out on our actions we sort of knew that the aims would probably be to ruffle as many feathers as we could before the season started - even that was incredibly hard work - trying to get The Board to agree to a Q & A for all supporters. We (supporters) have since been let down about the promises of more Q & As. An Independent Supporters club would be my dream whilst we have The Board that we have. What does anyone think ? |
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Post by ismellgas on Apr 14, 2015 21:43:49 GMT
I agree,I would love it if the fans owned the club that's the only way we would get what we wanted without all the moaning
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Post by lympstonegas on Apr 14, 2015 22:59:56 GMT
Empathise, Daggers old bean. And we are kindred spirit because I respect your postings. Still, the gap exists and I'm sorry, it's shameful the club have done very little. I give credit for keeping season tickets same price for the richer fans that can afford it. I give credit for starting a 5/10 flexi ticket. I get a distinct feeling it wasn't a directors idea in the first place, but hey don't look a gift horse.. Oh...and we've got goalcam. Almost forgot. I take it all back.. And I yours. Apologies for being curt earlier. I so want there to be an appetite for change. If we go up, Higgs will be the hero to the thousands of easily-pleased. If we don't, he'll make Sainsbury's the enemy. We might go up this year, we might even get a new stadium (no laughing at the back!). But we won't be the club we can be while any of the spivs who've run the show for the last 15 years are still there. Only trouble is ...... For Higgs read Dunford ... For this forum read original independent forum pre amalgamation and the issues.... Read same. |
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Post by mehewmagic on Apr 15, 2015 9:58:40 GMT
This forum is a tiny percentage of the matchday crowd. very true and always worth remember. ditto fora of other clubs. I have to stop myself 'hating' Barnet. Their forum is often ridiculously arrogant and crass, but I know in the back of my mind it does not necessarily represent their average match day supporter. |
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Post by aghast on Apr 15, 2015 20:59:53 GMT
O2O2.... I dislike Higgs immensely. And Dunford and Bradshaw and the rest. They've done nothing to reward fans, I agree - because they don't have to. My concern is that the same people who promised action after relegation will do so again if we don't go up, then we'll have the summer and it'll peter out. This forum is a tiny percentage of the matchday crowd. Anyone who tries to do anything gets worn down by abuse from the one-eyed idiot element, those who'd buy Rovers loo roll if Barry charged them £20 a sheet, those who still believe that Geoff and friends deserve credit. At some clubs, there'd have been riots. At Rovers, we have a moan, and we move on because hey I've never been to Alfreton before and it's a ground to tick off. I was one of those who started The Wellie Group - when we set out on our actions we sort of knew that the aims would probably be to ruffle as many feathers as we could before the season started - even that was incredibly hard work - trying to get The Board to agree to a Q & A for all supporters. We (supporters) have since been let down about the promises of more Q & As. An Independent Supporters club would be my dream whilst we have The Board that we have. What does anyone think ? I thought one was set up with BRISA, which was running in tandem with the Wellie Group for a while. Was it Jon the Stripe that set it up? Might be wrong there. Anyway, it seemed to fizzle out, unless anyone knows better. Not sure what happened there, unless, as I seem to recall, the meetings were so poorly attended that it just faded away. |
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Post by lostinspace on Apr 15, 2015 21:16:21 GMT
i went to one of the meetings at the Wellington, and thought the idea was great, BUT too many of those who offered to speak that night were more intent on airing their own personal views and experiences, some language was rather choice, even with several women present football or not it thought it was out of order, Needed to be more organised with a set agenda, and not a willy nilly " open talk session" would be still interested to join up, but think the two "set - ups" need to get together to form a bigger group from the start, small splinter groups don't achieve too much,Think RIK was their also that night and put across some good points regarding footsoldiers required to get the group more people aware, not everyone sits in front of a computer to read about these things going on
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 15, 2015 23:58:27 GMT
Empathise, Daggers old bean. And we are kindred spirit because I respect your postings. Still, the gap exists and I'm sorry, it's shameful the club have done very little. I give credit for keeping season tickets same price for the richer fans that can afford it. I give credit for starting a 5/10 flexi ticket. I get a distinct feeling it wasn't a directors idea in the first place, but hey don't look a gift horse.. Oh...and we've got goalcam. Almost forgot. I take it all back.. And I yours. Apologies for being curt earlier. I so want there to be an appetite for change. If we go up, Higgs will be the hero to the thousands of easily-pleased. If we don't, he'll make Sainsbury's the enemy. We might go up this year, we might even get a new stadium (no laughing at the back!). But we won't be the club we can be while any of the spivs who've run the show for the last 15 years are still there. Agree with all you say, particularly the last sentence but I'm powerless to do anything about that and I've supported all the various fans groups that have suggested they wanted to change things but haven't really so unless I win the Euro millions and as I don't buy lottery tickets that's not going to happen. I've just decided to go along and support my team, what more can I do..... |
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 16, 2015 0:13:29 GMT
O2O2.... I dislike Higgs immensely. And Dunford and Bradshaw and the rest. They've done nothing to reward fans, I agree - because they don't have to. My concern is that the same people who promised action after relegation will do so again if we don't go up, then we'll have the summer and it'll peter out. This forum is a tiny percentage of the matchday crowd. Anyone who tries to do anything gets worn down by abuse from the one-eyed idiot element, those who'd buy Rovers loo roll if Barry charged them £20 a sheet, those who still believe that Geoff and friends deserve credit. At some clubs, there'd have been riots. At Rovers, we have a moan, and we move on because hey I've never been to Alfreton before and it's a ground to tick off. I was one of those who started The Wellie Group - when we set out on our actions we sort of knew that the aims would probably be to ruffle as many feathers as we could before the season started - even that was incredibly hard work - trying to get The Board to agree to a Q & A for all supporters. We (supporters) have since been let down about the promises of more Q & As. An Independent Supporters club would be my dream whilst we have The Board that we have. What does anyone think ? You're right it was hard work for you and those involved in setting it up and you also got much criticism from those who were disinterested or thought you were just setting out to cause trouble. I was very supportive of what you tried to do but was also supportive of setting up an Independent Supporters Club, however neither gathered up enough support to continue and once the new season had started and things on the playing side picked up then all interest in challenging the Board and their management of the club ceased. There appears not to be sufficient numbers interested in challenging the status quo, hence why there has been little comment about the lack of further Q&A sessions, still I expect our Supporters Director's are asking all the right questions for us at the Board meetings aren't they, except we hear nothing from either of them so we don't really know do we ? |
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Post by dagnogo on Apr 16, 2015 8:49:35 GMT
And I yours. Apologies for being curt earlier. I so want there to be an appetite for change. If we go up, Higgs will be the hero to the thousands of easily-pleased. If we don't, he'll make Sainsbury's the enemy. We might go up this year, we might even get a new stadium (no laughing at the back!). But we won't be the club we can be while any of the spivs who've run the show for the last 15 years are still there. Agree with all you say, particularly the last sentence but I'm powerless to do anything about that and I've supported all the various fans groups that have suggested they wanted to change things but haven't really so unless I win the Euro millions and as I don't buy lottery tickets that's not going to happen. I've just decided to go along and support my team, what more can I do..... Nothing wrong with that mate - nothing at all. After all it's the football you go to watch not the accounts or the buildings. |
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