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Post by PeterHooper57 on Apr 4, 2015 14:03:09 GMT
Charlotte Lesley has been ******* brilliant for and to Bristol Rovers; how anybody can have a cheap shot at her is beyond me, and I for one was more than happy to contribute to the Southmead Project last night, which I understand she is is also involved with. I hope she keeps her seat at the general election in May, its a shame the Country does not have more MPs like her. UTG
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 14:04:38 GMT
Well Charlotte failed to declare £17,000 worth of campaign donations in the register of members' interests and had to apologise to the House Of course, I'm sure one was deliberate mendacity and the other was a regrettable error. But which one is which? Well of course Kerry was also caught cheating on claiming expenses. That is money that me & you contribute through our taxes but Kerry felt it was her entitlement to claim more than she was due. Tomayto, tomahto
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Post by fanatical on Apr 4, 2015 14:10:07 GMT
and what have you ever done for Rovers? Apologies. No opinions allowed unless you've bought the club, as usual. Yawn. hardly an opinion - more a criticism. And my question is - "what entitles you to criticise someone who is trying to help?" especially when you will no doubt be happy to benefit if everything goes well at the end of May.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 14:15:29 GMT
When I started the thread just wanted to know what everybody thought of her. I am in a very safe tory seat area but would lover her to be my MP. I read through a list of things she has done, and was amazed at the amount of local work she supports. She came to my attention at the time she started to help Rovers. At the same time she also became a big hitter for the case of fair play for pub tenants. I am admin of a group called LSL (Licensees Supporting Licensees) and although she is not officially connected to our campaign she has helped with the work. All in all sounds like a proper MP working for her constituency and also happy to work on larger agendas. If I was Sainsbury's I may be a bit worried about her.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 14:37:38 GMT
Bamber et al. Again I have met George Ferguson in various meetings to do with transport. This guy has the balls to begin to tackle a problem which the hotch potch of various political administrations have not. 30 odd years ago we had a scheme called ATA, Advanced Transport for Avon, a metro scheme using the stupidly closed railway corridors in and around Bristol. Because a Tory, Richard Cottrell was behind it, the Labour run Avon County Council killed it. Look at the situation now. Absolute chaos which chokes Bristol and costs the local economy millions. We have a tide of commuters driving into Bristol every day and returning on an evening. The RPZ's which he is introducing is an unpopular blunt instrument to begin the process of getting Bristol moving. People don't like change, we are very touchy about curtailing our 'freedom' to drive anywhere. To his credit, Ferguson is trying to tackle it. Also, he will deliver the Arena at Temple Meads. This is a fantastic development along with all the other stuff that will follow in the area. He's trying to bring the centre of Bristol towards Temple Meads station and St. Mary Redcliffe. He has executive power to force these measures through and is not controlled by a political party. I for one would vote for him if I lived within the Bristol boundaries. Again, all these 'Red Trousered fool' comments are lazy and ignorant. I have lived all of my life within the boundaries of Bristol, so feel that I can reasonably comment on George Ferguson's contribution to Bristol in the past few years. And at the risk of abuse from others I do not like his gimmick of (more often than not) appearing at public functions wearing red trousers and looking as though he has just been dragged through a hedge backwards. I prefer my representatives to appear in a manner befitting their position when representing the city. But George Ferguson was elected as a maverick candidate, the electorate rejecting the Labour, Conservative and LibDem candidates for whatever reason, but I don't feel that they realised that the Independent candidate that they voted for was in actual fact a dyed-in-the-wool old-fashioned Liberal candidate who was in thrall to the tree-hugger community of Bristol. This was demonstrated recently when he fed soup to the tree-climbing protestors in Stapleton. And many of his actions since his election have appeared to prove this. His first official action of renaming the Council House to City Hall within hours of his election was not only ludicrous but also extremely expensive. It was designed to let the people of Bristol that his ''reign'' had begun, and was the first of his vanity projects. Another was to close down Park Street on a Sunday to allow a huge slide to be installed, and people could picnic. This ignores the fact that Brandon Hill and The Downs are both local to Park Street and offer much better facilities for families to picnic, but the disruption to Bristolians was huge. Cars and public transport had to be redirected, and although it may sound trivial to some there were many people literally wandering around the central area trying to find where their bus was due to stop and pick them up. Ditto Baldwin Street for a ''Family Day Out'' as I remember, appealing to some maybe but disrupting many more. Still, the street entertainers and clowns were happy at least. As a justification for Bristol having an elected mayor it was said that it would cut down on the number of council sub-committee meetings, and therefor a reduction in councillor's expenses being claimed. I don't believe that his has proved to be the case, in fact we now have a number of deputy mayors. Did Bristolians vote for the role of deputy mayors? One thing that I will congratulate the mayor for is the Bristol Arena, which does appear to be edging towards fruition. However a cynic might observe that it is only a vanity project for our George, designed to continue his name in perpetuity. I wonder what the arena will be called? I could continue but what's the point, at least he's up for re-election shortly. But he does seem strangely confident of a second term. We'll have to see. You forgot to mention him telling us all to be more 'Green' whilst taking jollies in China, at our expense of course.
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Post by Bernard Briggs on Apr 4, 2015 14:49:32 GMT
Yes, G Ferguson !
And unfortunately probably a few more who also don't understand how society (eg democracy, jobs, business) works.
He's good at spending wasting our money though.
Yep. But seriously, anyone on here agree with any of his policies or actions so far? I was walking home from Wetherspoons in town, where I`d spent a happy afternoon on the Thatcher`s Gold, and I seriously disagreed with his policy of closing the public lavatory on Glos Rd. Apologies to whoever owns the house on the corner of Egerton Rd.
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Post by brizzle on Apr 4, 2015 15:27:52 GMT
I have lived all of my life within the boundaries of Bristol, so feel that I can reasonably comment on George Ferguson's contribution to Bristol in the past few years. And at the risk of abuse from others I do not like his gimmick of (more often than not) appearing at public functions wearing red trousers and looking as though he has just been dragged through a hedge backwards. I prefer my representatives to appear in a manner befitting their position when representing the city. But George Ferguson was elected as a maverick candidate, the electorate rejecting the Labour, Conservative and LibDem candidates for whatever reason, but I don't feel that they realised that the Independent candidate that they voted for was in actual fact a dyed-in-the-wool old-fashioned Liberal candidate who was in thrall to the tree-hugger community of Bristol. This was demonstrated recently when he fed soup to the tree-climbing protestors in Stapleton. And many of his actions since his election have appeared to prove this. His first official action of renaming the Council House to City Hall within hours of his election was not only ludicrous but also extremely expensive. It was designed to let the people of Bristol that his ''reign'' had begun, and was the first of his vanity projects. Another was to close down Park Street on a Sunday to allow a huge slide to be installed, and people could picnic. This ignores the fact that Brandon Hill and The Downs are both local to Park Street and offer much better facilities for families to picnic, but the disruption to Bristolians was huge. Cars and public transport had to be redirected, and although it may sound trivial to some there were many people literally wandering around the central area trying to find where their bus was due to stop and pick them up. Ditto Baldwin Street for a ''Family Day Out'' as I remember, appealing to some maybe but disrupting many more. Still, the street entertainers and clowns were happy at least. As a justification for Bristol having an elected mayor it was said that it would cut down on the number of council sub-committee meetings, and therefor a reduction in councillor's expenses being claimed. I don't believe that his has proved to be the case, in fact we now have a number of deputy mayors. Did Bristolians vote for the role of deputy mayors? One thing that I will congratulate the mayor for is the Bristol Arena, which does appear to be edging towards fruition. However a cynic might observe that it is only a vanity project for our George, designed to continue his name in perpetuity. I wonder what the arena will be called? I could continue but what's the point, at least he's up for re-election shortly. But he does seem strangely confident of a second term. We'll have to see. You forgot to mention him telling us all to be more 'Green' whilst taking jollies in China, at our expense of course. You're right of course, but in the interests of brevity I decided to concentrate on some of George's internal policies, and to put to one side his ''foreign'' policies. I'm quite certain that most would agree that it would be impossible to give a quick resumé, both of the man and his various policies. But as a Bristol Council Tax payer I'm dismayed to see my Council Tax being wasted on his various foreign trips, complete with enough flunkeys to fill a small cruise ship it seems to me. I realise that they all have a very full role to play once they arrive in Amsterdam or Copenhagen, but in my working life I came to see through the difference between a serious business trip and a jolly quite quickly. We were all told recently that he had declined to accept his proposed pay award, but I would be much more interested in reading what his travel budget is. One other thing did spring to mind, and that was Bristol City Council's deficit which was made public recently. I don't have the inclination to trawl through and find the exact figures, but from memory the declared deficit was about £3.5 million. Soon after this, I read the total cost so far of purchasing and erecting the 20 mph speed signs was approximately £2.5 million. And we haven't even touched on another of his vanity schemes, the RPZ's. In Eric Idle's famous words . . . ''Say No More, Squire.''
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Post by alloutofgas on Apr 4, 2015 16:00:01 GMT
You forgot to mention him telling us all to be more 'Green' whilst taking jollies in China, at our expense of course. You're right of course, but in the interests of brevity I decided to concentrate on some of George's internal policies, and to put to one side his ''foreign'' policies. I'm quite certain that most would agree that it would be impossible to give a quick resumé, both of the man and his various policies. But as a Bristol Council Tax payer I'm dismayed to see my Council Tax being wasted on his various foreign trips, complete with enough flunkeys to fill a small cruise ship it seems to me. I realise that they all have a very full role to play once they arrive in Amsterdam or Copenhagen, but in my working life I came to see through the difference between a serious business trip and a jolly quite quickly. We were all told recently that he had declined to accept his proposed pay award, but I would be much more interested in reading what his travel budget is. One other thing did spring to mind, and that was Bristol City Council's deficit which was made public recently. I don't have the inclination to trawl through and find the exact figures, but from memory the declared deficit was about £3.5 million. Soon after this, I read the total cost so far of purchasing and erecting the 20 mph speed signs was approximately £2.5 million. And we haven't even touched on another of his vanity schemes, the RPZ's. In Eric Idle's famous words . . . ''Say No More, Squire.''[br
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 16:51:52 GMT
each of these close the street jollies cost 40 thousand quid, guess who is the ceo of the company organising these days ? redpants daughter
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Post by brizzle on Apr 4, 2015 17:13:35 GMT
each of these close the street jollies cost 40 thousand quid, guess who is the ceo of the company organising these days ? redpants daughter That's nepotism ennit? There's most likely a simple explanation for it all though. But when BCC taxpayers pay good money to use all of the roads in the city 24x7, and then have to put up with the inconvenience of diversions, both for themselves and public services, then I don't think that this is good enough. I found this interesting . . .
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Post by LPGas on Apr 4, 2015 17:23:01 GMT
Ah, RPZ's another reason why I left Brentford. Hounslow were picking off the streets in Brentford one at a time, not with 2 or 4 hour slots but ALL DAY slots, they used all sorts of reasons for them but there is only one, to raise more money.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 17:52:24 GMT
each of these close the street jollies cost 40 thousand quid, guess who is the ceo of the company organising these days ? redpants daughter That's nepotism ennit? There's most likely a simple explanation for it all though. But when BCC taxpayers pay good money to use all of the roads in the city 24x7, and then have to put up with the inconvenience of diversions, both for themselves and public services, then I don't think that this is good enough. I found this interesting . . . We all know that he cares only about himself and his own pet projects. So far the only person wanting to defend him lives outside of the area and isn't paying for the privilidge of him embarrasing our City by going around the world dressed like a tramp. Maybe, instead of getting his knickers in a twist over cars he could turn his attention to the maniacs on bicycles who demand that they be given the same rights and the space of a small car on the road, yet drive straight through red lights and over pavements when it suites them? The Merchant Venturers told him that dress code didn't allow for him to turn up in his usual tatty red trousers, so he had red tartan ones made. What a classless kn*bhead. He even turned up at The Pall Mall club without a tie. Then of course, he thought it was clever to arrive at a meeting with the President of Singapore wearing creased red chinos. You know where you stand when even Jeremy Clarkson is able to mock you! This clown is supposed to be an ambassador for our City!
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Post by 1unclealbert on Apr 4, 2015 17:55:58 GMT
To those who support G Ferguson by referring to the lack of progess in the previous 30 years in Bristol by saying "at least he's tackling the problems like traffic", I say he's doing the wrong things and therefore he's bad for Bristol. Traffic isn't improving despite what the Satnavs say, anyone who travels in Bristol with their eyes shut would know that. Just look at Winterstoke Rd (yes, I know...!!), Parson St gyratory, Glos Rd, Bath Rd etc. But isn't it great to travel down a few empty roads, devoid of pedestrians, shops, schools, hospitals and cyclists at 20mph ? What a triumph. The Bristol Arena(l) may be good for the city, I agree, but there is NO public parking planned. Just look at it's location - not exactly in a desert, is it ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 18:51:58 GMT
I had to laugh when he got caught speeding in a 20mph zone
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Post by alloutofgas on Apr 4, 2015 20:04:32 GMT
Perhaps because I live outside Bristol I can see it differently? Anyway, you all get to put your cross in the box the next time he's up for election. Christ, I've got Jacob Rees Mogg!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 21:21:07 GMT
Perhaps because I live outside Bristol I can see it differently? Anyway, you all get to put your cross in the box the next time he's up for election. Christ, I've got Jacob Rees Mogg!! Rees-Mogg isn't all bad, intelligent, articulate, witty and at least, unlike Charlotte, he's prepared to stand up and tell the truth about the corrupt EU.
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Post by alloutofgas on Apr 4, 2015 21:42:21 GMT
Perhaps because I live outside Bristol I can see it differently? Anyway, you all get to put your cross in the box the next time he's up for election. Christ, I've got Jacob Rees Mogg!! Rees-Mogg isn't all bad, intelligent, articulate, witty and at least, unlike Charlotte, he's prepared to stand up and tell the truth about the corrupt EU. I have met JRM several times, I agree with you. He has been very helpful in a campaign I am part of. He speaks to me on the level. The way the press portray him is unfair.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 21:52:54 GMT
Perhaps because I live outside Bristol I can see it differently? Anyway, you all get to put your cross in the box the next time he's up for election. Christ, I've got Jacob Rees Mogg!! Rees-Mogg isn't all bad, intelligent, articulate, witty and at least, unlike Charlotte, he's prepared to stand up and tell the truth about the corrupt EU. Well Charlotte stood up against her party and demanded change for publicans, siding with Gregg Mullholland.
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Post by womble on Apr 4, 2015 22:14:18 GMT
Bamber et al. Again I have met George Ferguson in various meetings to do with transport. This guy has the balls to begin to tackle a problem which the hotch potch of various political administrations have not. 30 odd years ago we had a scheme called ATA, Advanced Transport for Avon, a metro scheme using the stupidly closed railway corridors in and around Bristol. Because a Tory, Richard Cottrell was behind it, the Labour run Avon County Council killed it. Look at the situation now. Absolute chaos which chokes Bristol and costs the local economy millions. We have a tide of commuters driving into Bristol every day and returning on an evening. The RPZ's which he is introducing is an unpopular blunt instrument to begin the process of getting Bristol moving. People don't like change, we are very touchy about curtailing our 'freedom' to drive anywhere. To his credit, Ferguson is trying to tackle it. Also, he will deliver the Arena at Temple Meads. This is a fantastic development along with all the other stuff that will follow in the area. He's trying to bring the centre of Bristol towards Temple Meads station and St. Mary Redcliffe. He has executive power to force these measures through and is not controlled by a political party. I for one would vote for him if I lived within the Bristol boundaries. Again, all these 'Red Trousered fool' comments are lazy and ignorant. I have lived all of my life within the boundaries of Bristol, so feel that I can reasonably comment on George Ferguson's contribution to Bristol in the past few years. And at the risk of abuse from others I do not like his gimmick of (more often than not) appearing at public functions wearing red trousers and looking as though he has just been dragged through a hedge backwards. I prefer my representatives to appear in a manner befitting their position when representing the city. But George Ferguson was elected as a maverick candidate, the electorate rejecting the Labour, Conservative and LibDem candidates for whatever reason, but I don't feel that they realised that the Independent candidate that they voted for was in actual fact a dyed-in-the-wool old-fashioned Liberal candidate who was in thrall to the tree-hugger community of Bristol. This was demonstrated recently when he fed soup to the tree-climbing protestors in Stapleton. As a justification for Bristol having an elected mayor it was said that it would cut down on the number of council sub-committee meetings, and therefor a reduction in councillor's expenses being claimed. I don't believe that his has proved to be the case, in fact we now have a number of deputy mayors. Did Bristolians vote for the role of deputy mayors? One thing that I will congratulate the mayor for is the Bristol Arena, which does appear to be edging towards fruition. However a cynic might observe that it is only a vanity project for our George, designed to continue his name in perpetuity. I wonder what the arena will be called? I could continue but what's the point, at least he's up for re-election shortly. A mayor has to rule with a cabinet drawn from the councillors, those are the rules. Deputy Mayor is just a title for those fulfilling that function. Marvin Rees probably lost votes by saying his cabinet would be all Labour regardless of the proportion of votes to each party. Ferguson said he would allocate roles in roughly the proportion of council members and that's what he has done. An arena has been near the top of Bristol's wish list for decades. It was Ferguson's promise that he would get one built. If he gets that done I am sure we can live with it being a 'vanity project'. Incidently, Bristol's mayor has effectively no control over public transport. There is no equivalent to Transport for London. Firstbus decide what routes they will run, how often and how much they will charge. If we want decent public transport, we need an Intergrated Transport Authority.
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Post by aghast on Apr 4, 2015 22:17:10 GMT
JRM is indeed inteligent, articulate and witty, and an intellectual living a life remote from those of real people. He would join UKIP if it wasn't full of common working class riff-raff. The vested interests of the wealthy establishment and the fears of the working man or woman sometimes come together in an unfortunate combination.
Charlotte Leslie is a hard-working MP who represents her constituents but she is a Conservative as well. She is a politician and an ambitious one too. Vote for her and you vote for Cameron. That's a fact, good or bad.
They don't care about you. They care about their own. Their own being the public-school educated millionaire families that now represent more of the cabinet than they have done for 50 years. Well, maybe they care a bit. Maybe not abolish the NHS. Just chip away at it until it gets so bad that we all opt for private healthcare insurance. You might sometimes think they care about the same things you care about. But in the long term you're playing their game by voting for them.
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