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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 11:46:26 GMT
Appalling decision making by the now owner of the club backed up by a catalogue of lies and excuses. Ron Craig was a proud chairman that day and a few weeks later when we won promotion at Wembley. Higgs has been a disaster. Absoltuley, RC was a different man to the current incumbent and in a similar mold to DD. Yes two relegations with a sharp increase in debt to a commercial loan shark and a failed stadium bid flanked by TW who appears to be on another planet to the rest of us where most things are concerned, particularly in the final 20 minutes. Thankfully the time the current incumbent has spent at our club is far greater than the time it will take him to be on his toes post high court, with the exception of Henbury Gas I doubt there will be another fan sorry to see the back of a man who arrived off the back of an opportunity to make some money while splitting the fanbase, lying to the fanbase and robbing the club of its once dignified position as a professionally run FC. As for the events of 8 years ago, great times and two great days out with some great memories of games that got the club to Cardiff and Wembley.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 12:03:56 GMT
what would it take to be a REAL disaster ? maybe 149 innocent people murdered by a crazy German thats a disaster a football club being relegated is very trivial compared to that Agreed but we are talking about what's under the control of the Chairman of a FC. What's happened at Rovers since Higgs took control is a disaster compared to putting 2 sugars in your tea instead of one, but we aren't talking about that either. So, in the context of his performance as Chairman of BRFC, can you defend Higgs' record?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 12:11:17 GMT
maybe 149 innocent people murdered by a crazy German thats a disaster a football club being relegated is very trivial compared to that Agreed but we are talking about what's under the control of the Chairman of a FC. What's happened at Rovers since Higgs took control is a disaster compared to putting 2 sugars in your tea instead of one, but we aren't talking about that either. So, in the context of his performance as Chairman of BRFC, can you defend Higgs' record? Nope - The man is a complete fool for putting so much money into a company that has never made a dime in its life
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 12:18:12 GMT
Agreed but we are talking about what's under the control of the Chairman of a FC. What's happened at Rovers since Higgs took control is a disaster compared to putting 2 sugars in your tea instead of one, but we aren't talking about that either. So, in the context of his performance as Chairman of BRFC, can you defend Higgs' record? Nope - The man is a complete fool for putting so much money into a company that has never made a dime in its life Not so, there was a massive trading profit when he took over.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 12:28:09 GMT
Nope - The man is a complete fool for putting so much money into a company that has never made a dime in its life Not so, there was a massive trading profit when he took over. sorry did not realise we showed our profit as American coinage over how many years did we make a "Massive" profit then one, two or three and how much did they pay to us shareholders as a dividend ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 12:36:40 GMT
Not so, there was a massive trading profit when he took over. sorry did not realise we showed our profit as American coinage over how many years did we make a "Massive" profit then one, two or three and how much did they pay to us shareholders as a dividend ? As a shareholder you will already have seen the accounts, so why ask me? So, do we agree, as Chairman of BRFC, in the context of things he can affect in that role, Higgs has been a disaster?
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Post by a more piratey game on Apr 1, 2015 12:38:25 GMT
Not so, there was a massive trading profit when he took over. sorry did not realise we showed our profit as American coinage over how many years did we make a "Massive" profit then one, two or three and how much did they pay to us shareholders as a dividend ? Something about divvies
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Post by brizzle on Apr 1, 2015 12:45:51 GMT
It seems to me that the Chairman is a confident incompetent, in the mould of ''the lunatics have taken over the asylum.'' I don't think that anyone can reasonably doubt his commitment to the club, but sadly it is misplaced. Unfortunately for us (and for him as well, of course), he is the wrong person at the wrong time. It's my opinion that he has been over-promoted, and his talents would have been better employed by being a member of the Board at best, but never Chairman.
It's a great shame all round, it really is.
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Post by markwind on Apr 1, 2015 12:47:21 GMT
maybe 149 innocent people murdered by a crazy German thats a disaster a football club being relegated is very trivial compared to that Agreed but we are talking about what's under the control of the Chairman of a FC. What's happened at Rovers since Higgs took control is a disaster compared to putting 2 sugars in your tea instead of one, but we aren't talking about that either. So, in the context of his performance as Chairman of BRFC, can you defend Higgs' record? I must say that while I've not exactly agreed with previous posts of yours (various threads), this is a pretty damn good way of bringing back some context!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 12:48:28 GMT
sorry did not realise we showed our profit as American coinage over how many years did we make a "Massive" profit then one, two or three and how much did they pay to us shareholders as a dividend ? As a shareholder you will already have seen the accounts, so why ask me? So, do we agree, as Chairman of BRFC, in the context of things he can affect in that role, Higgs has been a disaster? Nope Using your own criteria that a chairman is judged by how much profit he has made the business, he has been a very good Chairman When the Sainsbury Case is settled is when he needs to be judged. If we lose the case, we will be in administration and he will be removed as chairman by the Administrator. If we win the case he will be held up as the great saviour of our club when he cuts the tape to the new £50m Stadium (estimated build cost as at Feb 2015) Either way i think Mr Higgs will not be our chairman when the case is put to bed
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 13:10:07 GMT
As a shareholder you will already have seen the accounts, so why ask me? So, do we agree, as Chairman of BRFC, in the context of things he can affect in that role, Higgs has been a disaster? Nope Using your own criteria that a chairman is judged by how much profit he has made the business, he has been a very good Chairman When the Sainsbury Case is settled is when he needs to be judged. If we lose the case, we will be in administration and he will be removed as chairman by the Administrator. If we win the case he will be held up as the great saviour of our club when he cuts the tape to the new £50m Stadium (estimated build cost as at Feb 2015) Either way i think Mr Higgs will not be our chairman when the case is put to bed TFFT. Ding dong the witch is dead............
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Post by DudeLebowski on Apr 1, 2015 13:47:37 GMT
Shock horror this thread ends up in hissy fits over the current chairman.
Anyway, Cardiff was a great occasion in 2007! Remember missing the walker penalty due to being rather intoxicated and in need of the biggest burger I could find! Heard the roar and just conceded we had probably just gone 3-0 down!
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Post by Peter Parker on Apr 1, 2015 14:55:11 GMT
As a shareholder you will already have seen the accounts, so why ask me? So, do we agree, as Chairman of BRFC, in the context of things he can affect in that role, Higgs has been a disaster? Nope Using your own criteria that a chairman is judged by how much profit he has made the business, he has been a very good Chairman When the Sainsbury Case is settled is when he needs to be judged. If we lose the case, we will be in administration and he will be removed as chairman by the Administrator. If we win the case he will be held up as the great saviour of our club when he cuts the tape to the new £50m Stadium (estimated build cost as at Feb 2015) Either way i think Mr Higgs will not be our chairman when the case is put to bed Is that your estimated build cost? Because even enfotcement of the contract we are looking to be more than abit short on that estimated figure you state
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 14:58:01 GMT
Shock horror this thread ends up in hissy fits over the current chairman. Anyway, Cardiff was a great occasion in 2007! Remember missing the walker penalty due to being rather intoxicated and in need of the biggest burger I could find! Heard the roar and just conceded we had probably just gone 3-0 down! The point is an answer to the OP's question. If you don't agree then where do you think it has all gone wrong?
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Post by brizzle on Apr 1, 2015 15:13:40 GMT
Shock horror this thread ends up in hissy fits over the current chairman. Anyway, Cardiff was a great occasion in 2007! Remember missing the walker penalty due to being rather intoxicated and in need of the biggest burger I could find! Heard the roar and just conceded we had probably just gone 3-0 down! Now that's a reaction of a really genuine BRFC fan.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 15:15:44 GMT
As a shareholder you will already have seen the accounts, so why ask me? So, do we agree, as Chairman of BRFC, in the context of things he can affect in that role, Higgs has been a disaster? Nope Using your own criteria that a chairman is judged by how much profit he has made the business, he has been a very good Chairman Good reply. Only 2 problems. 1. I've not stated that the Chairman should be judged on the profit he makes. 2. He's not made a profit himself at Rovers, he inherited the funds from the regime headed up by the outgoing Chairman. Once that money was wasted it's been non-stop losses all the way. Apart from that, you were spot on.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 15:24:24 GMT
Nope Using your own criteria that a chairman is judged by how much profit he has made the business, he has been a very good Chairman When the Sainsbury Case is settled is when he needs to be judged. If we lose the case, we will be in administration and he will be removed as chairman by the Administrator. If we win the case he will be held up as the great saviour of our club when he cuts the tape to the new £50m Stadium (estimated build cost as at Feb 2015) Either way i think Mr Higgs will not be our chairman when the case is put to bed Is that your estimated build cost? Because even enfotcement of the contract we are looking to be more than abit short on that estimated figure you state Figure recently quoted at a planning control meeting
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Post by DudeLebowski on Apr 1, 2015 17:10:57 GMT
Shock horror this thread ends up in hissy fits over the current chairman. Anyway, Cardiff was a great occasion in 2007! Remember missing the walker penalty due to being rather intoxicated and in need of the biggest burger I could find! Heard the roar and just conceded we had probably just gone 3-0 down! The point is an answer to the OP's question. If you don't agree then where do you think it has all gone wrong? Easy. We started a long slippery slope, the moment LL was relieved of his duties.
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Post by harrybuckle on Apr 1, 2015 19:49:01 GMT
The point is an answer to the OP's question. If you don't agree then where do you think it has all gone wrong? Easy. We started a long slippery slope, the moment LL was relieved of his duties. I don't buy the LL influence whatsoever as a Club of our stature we could ill afford an EXPERIENCED guy who had loads of contacts but only really got us Anthony and Swallow from Cardiff City I feel his contribution was merely a sounding board and the one who offered players contracts they were not worth.
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Post by dickgherkin on Apr 1, 2015 20:12:51 GMT
On another note - compare the blackthorn then to the blackthorn now - it feels like another world. Hopefully we'll get it back soon, if things carry on getting better (but we'll only have it if we make sure we get safe standing in the new stadium, okay, yes, i will shut up now).
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