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Post by lulworthgas on Mar 22, 2015 13:01:19 GMT
I'd say all the teams below 15th in our league would all struggle to get out of the bottom 2 in the league above. Any striker who gets an early decent run of form could have a field day at this level.
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Akinde
Mar 22, 2015 13:03:52 GMT
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Post by lulworthgas on Mar 22, 2015 13:03:52 GMT
double post
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Post by irishrover on Mar 22, 2015 13:45:50 GMT
He has always been a decent non league player, the gulf to the football league found him out. The fact that teams who go up to L2 don't seem to struggle in their first season kind of suggests that there isn't a gulf? I think it's down about depth really. There's probably not much between the top teams in the Conference and League 2 but there's a huge difference between the bottom half of the Conference and League 2 I think. It makes sense - the drop off once you get down to the part-timers can be pretty sharp. As for Akinde players can improve, they're not frozen forever at a certain performance level. He's got the assets you need to be successful so maybe it's just a case of confidence. Also, a lot of it is to do with the side around players as well. Barnet is built around him, that's different from coming into a side that functions in a different way. Presumably anyone purchasing a 30 goal a year striker is also likely to build the side around - it changes the dynamic completely.
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Akinde
Mar 22, 2015 14:17:10 GMT
Post by a more piratey game on Mar 22, 2015 14:17:10 GMT
Much rather have an Easter egg than A kinde(r) Surprise!
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 22, 2015 14:24:37 GMT
Any criticism of the Akinde that is playing for Barnet this season is just jealousy because his goalscoring record speaks for itself even without the penalties and it just isn't this season as he did score a lot of goals last season as well which was why Barnet signed him. Will he do it next season in League 2? Who knows but I would definitely jump at the chance of signing him if we went up and he was available. Lets put it this way..Blissett or Akinde,,Its a no brainer and that is with total respect to both players. That's hardly a fair comparison as Blisset was available and cost around £25/50K plus I expect an average salary package if he stepped up from p/t football, Akinde wasn't for sale and would probably cost upwards of £250K and is probably Barnet's highest wage earner. It'll be interesting to see how Akinde gets in next season if Barnet go up, via the Play Offs, or sale him to a league club if they don't go up.
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Akinde
Mar 22, 2015 17:24:52 GMT
Post by faggotygas on Mar 22, 2015 17:24:52 GMT
If there's anything I've learned this season, it's that the 'there's no gulf between conference & league 2' thing is a complete and utter myth. Don't see much difference between the top of the conference and the bottom of league 2
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Post by Gregory Stevens on Mar 22, 2015 17:50:08 GMT
Can't really agree with there not being a gulf.
The top 10 or so in this league are as good as l2.
The rest are semi pro whipping boys to these teams. You can't say the bottom teams are anywhere near l2.
The finishing and defending is on the whole, far better in l2. How many times this year have I seen opposition forwards through or with an easy goal, only to blast over or wide? Immediately on coming down I noticed that situations which would result in conceding before aren't converted. Players at this level need more chances, but the general play is v similar to l2.
however, the top end is as good as l2, and to fight past these clubs to earn promotion means you do ok once up.
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Akinde
Mar 22, 2015 19:17:22 GMT
Post by beesknees on Mar 22, 2015 19:17:22 GMT
If there's anything I've learned this season, it's that the 'there's no gulf between conference & league 2' thing is a complete and utter myth. Don't see much difference between the top of the conference and the bottom of league 2 The statto site gives each team a rating that can be compared across the leagues. It's about as reliable guide as you can get as it's used by the bookies to generate odds. You are currently rated at 683 which is better than Luton (7th best in league 2), Grimsby 677 (Same as Newport who are eighth, Barnet 666 ( Better than wimbledon 14th). The first 9 teams in the conference are all rated higher than the worst team in league two (Cheltenham). As comparison The best team in League 2 would be 12th best in league one, the best in League one would be 18th in the championship suggesting that league 2 to conference has the smallest difference.
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Akinde
Mar 22, 2015 20:17:15 GMT
Post by Gregory Stevens on Mar 22, 2015 20:17:15 GMT
Don't see much difference between the top of the conference and the bottom of league 2 The statto site gives each team a rating that can be compared across the leagues. It's about as reliable guide as you can get as it's used by the bookies to generate odds. You are currently rated at 683 which is better than Luton (7th best in league 2), Grimsby 677 (Same as Newport who are eighth, Barnet 666 ( Better than wimbledon 14th). The first 9 teams in the conference are all rated higher than the worst team in league two (Cheltenham). As comparison The best team in League 2 would be 12th best in league one, the best in League one would be 18th in the championship suggesting that league 2 to conference has the smallest difference. Compare the worst teams positions relative to each other. How are the lower teams in conference ranking. A league is a league and the higher teams comparison only tells half the story.
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Akinde
Mar 22, 2015 20:39:11 GMT
Post by beesknees on Mar 22, 2015 20:39:11 GMT
Can't say I understand the question but I'll give my interpretation. The difference between top and bottom Conference is 103 points, league 2 is 80 points league 1 92 Championship 106
suggesting that the difference between top and bottom in Conference and Championship is more profound than league 1 & 2
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Akinde
Mar 22, 2015 20:48:56 GMT
Post by Gregory Stevens on Mar 22, 2015 20:48:56 GMT
Interesting, that's kind of what I was asking. Cheers.
So the difference betweenbthe top teams and the league above team's is small for conf l2, But the difference between top conf and bottom conf is high.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 22, 2015 22:12:28 GMT
Don't see much difference between the top of the conference and the bottom of league 2 The statto site gives each team a rating that can be compared across the leagues. It's about as reliable guide as you can get as it's used by the bookies to generate odds. You are currently rated at 683 which is better than Luton (7th best in league 2), Grimsby 677 (Same as Newport who are eighth, Barnet 666 ( Better than wimbledon 14th). The first 9 teams in the conference are all rated higher than the worst team in league two (Cheltenham). As comparison The best team in League 2 would be 12th best in league one, the best in League one would be 18th in the championship suggesting that league 2 to conference has the smallest difference. Just shows you can do anything with stats! What's odd for us is that with Lines & Easter in the side we probably have a far better side than last season's given, we've manged to retain last season's defence/goalie but the wage bill is probably a £1m lower.
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Akinde
Mar 23, 2015 1:00:11 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 1:00:11 GMT
McChrystal had him in his pocket at the Mem. That's good enough for me. Much rather have an Easter egg than A kinde(r) Surprise! he destroyed mcchrystal and trotman at barnet
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Akinde
Mar 23, 2015 8:30:50 GMT
Post by faggotygas on Mar 23, 2015 8:30:50 GMT
The statto site gives each team a rating that can be compared across the leagues. It's about as reliable guide as you can get as it's used by the bookies to generate odds. You are currently rated at 683 which is better than Luton (7th best in league 2), Grimsby 677 (Same as Newport who are eighth, Barnet 666 ( Better than wimbledon 14th). The first 9 teams in the conference are all rated higher than the worst team in league two (Cheltenham). As comparison The best team in League 2 would be 12th best in league one, the best in League one would be 18th in the championship suggesting that league 2 to conference has the smallest difference. Compare the worst teams positions relative to each other. How are the lower teams in conference ranking. A league is a league and the higher teams comparison only tells half the story. Yeah that's definitely a feature of the Conference - there are 2 leagues in 1
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