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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 15, 2015 21:33:05 GMT
From my perspective, Clarke's awards are worth nought, England C caps for players that have already played League football are worth nought, and winning this division would be worth nought. If we have to suffer a Wembley play off final, I'd go and support the team. And if we won, it'd be worth nought. So do you not cheer when we score or clap the players off when we win?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 21:36:55 GMT
From my perspective, Clarke's awards are worth nought, England C caps for players that have already played League football are worth nought, and winning this division would be worth nought. If we have to suffer a Wembley play off final, I'd go and support the team. And if we won, it'd be worth nought. So do you not cheer when we score or clap the players off when we win? No, I do both. I support the team. I'm hoping they can get us back where we ought to be and we can forget this sorry episode ever occurred.
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Post by lostinspace on Mar 15, 2015 21:40:31 GMT
From my perspective, Clarke's awards are worth nought, England C caps for players that have already played League football are worth nought, and winning this division would be worth nought. If we have to suffer a Wembley play off final, I'd go and support the team. And if we won, it'd be worth nought. askagonyaunt.com/# think you might want a word..... they may help and it's confidential
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 22:51:09 GMT
Uh...no, it's rather like praising a competent reader who ends up in the kids section of a library getting a Janet and John completely right. This is ******* non league ffs!!! we're Bristol Rovers not Clifton St Vincent's Reserves. Shall we get DC to hand back his Manager of the Month awards and tell Brown & Parkers to forget they played for England 'C' while we at it? Also no celebrating if we win the Championship and forget about going to Wembley if we don't win the Championship and finish up in a second rate Play Off final! Either you're willfully misunderstanding my explicitly explained sentiments or you are the thickest person in the northern hemisphere who it appears can both read and write.
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Post by harrybuckle on Mar 16, 2015 9:47:38 GMT
I agree a club record away record in the old Third division (now league one) is better than a similar away record in the Conference but its still admirable. Our players compared with 1974 are not as good Warboys, Bannister, Eadie, Prince, Green, Dobson, Jacobs etc but as we all know geeing out of this league is THE FIRST STEP
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Post by faggotygas on Mar 16, 2015 11:36:12 GMT
whichever level we are at - well done DC and the players Uh...no, it's rather like praising a competent reader who ends up in the kids section of a library getting a Janet and John completely right. This is ******* non league ffs!!! we're Bristol Rovers not Clifton St Vincent's Reserves. Correct if its the board you are judging, not correct if its the manager, coaching staff and players. We are a Conference club, with a Conference budget, and the ability to only appeal to Conference players (with the odd exception), so we are no longer competent readers. Its like taking a competent reader, spinning them round 5 times, repeatedly smashing them over the head with mallet, then getting them to read Janet and John. They can only work with the situation that they are in.
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Post by old_fogey on Mar 16, 2015 12:38:44 GMT
I agree a club record away record in the old Third division (now league one) is better than a similar away record in the Conference but its still admirable. Our players compared with 1974 are not as good Warboys, Bannister, Eadie, Prince, Green, Dobson, Jacobs etc but as we all know geeing out of this league is THE FIRST STEP Harry - to my mind where the unbeaten run occurs is irrelevant because "unbeaten" is the wrong mindset. We play in a system where a 3-0,0-1,0-1 run "trumps" an unbeaten run of three draws and therefore leads to better, or at least a no worse, improvement in league position. I have seen 8 games this season and we are unbeaten in them. There were 7 draws and one win. Unfortunately, although unbeaten, 10 points from 8 games is not a particularly great return. I think successive wins or pts per game is a more sensible record to emulate and we have had some good winning runs this year. When I hear Clarke going on about "unbeaten" runs where substantial numbers are draws, I am concerned. It is my only real concern in terms of his management, particularly as we are entering a period of the season when wins are likely to be imperative either to win the league or get through the play-offs.
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Post by droitwichgas on Mar 16, 2015 13:12:29 GMT
Shall we get DC to hand back his Manager of the Month awards and tell Brown & Parkers to forget they played for England 'C' while we at it? Also no celebrating if we win the Championship and forget about going to Wembley if we don't win the Championship and finish up in a second rate Play Off final! Either you're willfully misunderstanding my explicitly explained sentiments or you are the thickest person in the northern hemisphere who it appears can both read and write. Shouldn't that be read & type?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 13:36:55 GMT
If Rovers avoid defeat at Macclesfield they will equal a Club record of 17 away matches without defeat which was set in their promotion season of 1973/4..the run started in the 1972/3 season ... 7 April 1973 S****horpe Utd until 27 Jan 1974 Wrexham where they lost 1-0. I saw that defeat !
Another club record is just 5 away defeats in the promotion seasons of 1973/4 & 1990/1. With 3 away defeats can they break that record as well ? Those are Football League records, what we do as a non league club is not worthy of comparison. What an absolute beauty, read some crackers comments on the forums over many years and also spoken plenty of it myself, however your viewpoint here and on other comments make on this subject are right up there with the biggest wind up ever to grace the forums,, it is a wind up right? You mention other teams with part time players, err they are here at Rovers as well or at least were part time when we recruited them. Dress it down and slate the results so far all you want, you won't change the mindset of football fans who watch and have played the game and realise just how difficult it is to put long unbeaten runs together, from the Premier league to the Downs league the opposition more often than not is not a million miles away which is why you don't see 7 or 8 nils every week. It's not worth bothering justifying other aspects that make the feat of putting an unbeaten run together all the more remarkable such as playing surfaces like Saturdays and having a clown for a Chairman and many other obvious points as its impossible to debate with someone who believes those of us with an alternative opinion are deluded.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 13:51:23 GMT
I like miserable odd sods moaning about this sort of thing. I'm 28, I've seen us promoted once in my life of watching Rovers and relegated four times. Quite frankly success at any level for me is just dead nice. Us youngsters look back in awe at the teams that just missed out on promotion to the second tier with astonishment. I mean Paul Tovey was in the best Rovers squad I've seen. So don't give me this bollocks, let's enjoy it, it's success all be it at a lower level than usual but success all the same and as a club that doesn't come too often.
Oh and Rickie Lambert was better than Randall you idiots.
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Post by irishrover on Mar 16, 2015 15:32:25 GMT
I like miserable odd sods moaning about this sort of thing. I'm 28, I've seen us promoted once in my life of watching Rovers and relegated four times. Quite frankly success at any level for me is just dead nice. Us youngsters look back in awe at the teams that just missed out on promotion to the second tier with astonishment. I mean Paul Tovey was in the best Rovers squad I've seen. So don't give me this bollocks, let's enjoy it, it's success all be it at a lower level than usual but success all the same and as a club that doesn't come too often. Oh and Rickie Lambert was better than Randall you idiots. Exactly - I am not going to have someone tell me what I can and can't appreciate. Surely being a Bristol Rovers fan should have taught everyone that we can't be picky when it comes to success! All historical comparisons like this are dodgy no matter what basis they are made. This stat does not tell us that the 2014/2015 Rovers team is as good as the early 70s Rovers team*. But it does tell us that this kind of thing doesn't happen very often and has been kind of fun for those who have witnessed and is worth celebrating on its own terms. *Though if you were to literally put this side up against the early 70s side while controlling for nothing else I'd have £500 on 2014/15 Rovers every single time because players are simply faster, stronger and fitter than they were 40 years ago and the ball is in play for so much more of the 90mins than it used to be. That is an effect of the game and has nothing to do with the relative abilities of the players and is exactly why seeing comparison in that way is useless.
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Post by fanatical on Mar 16, 2015 15:56:43 GMT
I like miserable odd sods moaning about this sort of thing. I'm 28, I've seen us promoted once in my life of watching Rovers and relegated four times. Quite frankly success at any level for me is just dead nice. Us youngsters look back in awe at the teams that just missed out on promotion to the second tier with astonishment. I mean Paul Tovey was in the best Rovers squad I've seen. So don't give me this bollocks, let's enjoy it, it's success all be it at a lower level than usual but success all the same and as a club that doesn't come too often. Oh and Rickie Lambert was better than Randall you idiots. well said young 'un Not only the 'Oldies' that talk sense sometimes
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Post by fanatical on Mar 16, 2015 16:03:08 GMT
From my perspective, Clarke's awards are worth nought, England C caps for players that have already played League football are worth nought, and winning this division would be worth nought. If we have to suffer a Wembley play off final, I'd go and support the team. And if we won, it'd be worth nought. well at least they are achieving - whereas you at 44 seem to be going through your mid-life crisis - cheer up for God sake and enjoy life before it is too late
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Post by Cheshiregas on Mar 16, 2015 16:05:04 GMT
From the Macclesfield Twitter feed ~ Message for supporters attending Nuneaton or Bristol Rovers games The following is an important road closure announcement for supporters looking to attend either of our home games against Nuneaton Town or Bristol Rovers. On Saturday 21st and Saturday 28th March the A536 Congleton Road is to be closed from Penningtons Lane to Ivy Lane throughout the day. This road closure means that supporters should allow more time for their journey to follow diversion signs. For more information follow Cheshire East Highways on Twitter. twitter.com/CECHighwaysRead more at www.mtfc.co.uk/news/article/important-road-closure-announcement-2337483.aspx#UjQpBpYVQEOhFmFq.99
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 16:30:48 GMT
From my perspective, Clarke's awards are worth nought, England C caps for players that have already played League football are worth nought, and winning this division would be worth nought. If we have to suffer a Wembley play off final, I'd go and support the team. And if we won, it'd be worth nought. well at least they are achieving - whereas you at 44 seem to be going through your mid-life crisis - cheer up for God sake and enjoy life before it is too late Thank you for your views.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 20:11:07 GMT
Uh...no, it's rather like praising a competent reader who ends up in the kids section of a library getting a Janet and John completely right. This is ******* non league ffs!!! we're Bristol Rovers not Clifton St Vincent's Reserves. Correct if its the board you are judging, not correct if its the manager, coaching staff and players. We are a Conference club, with a Conference budget, and the ability to only appeal to Conference players (with the odd exception), so we are no longer competent readers. Its like taking a competent reader, spinning them round 5 times, repeatedly smashing them over the head with mallet, then getting them to read Janet and John. They can only work with the situation that they are in. I'm not judging anyone, just stating the fact non league records do not trump or even equal league records. Clifton St Vincent's Rsrs 2 Bristol Rovers 26...big deal, get it?
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Post by ismellgas on Mar 16, 2015 20:26:40 GMT
Marcus Stewart best striker we've ever had,class
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 20:45:08 GMT
Marcus Stewart best striker we've ever had,class Yep, he was pretty good, but no Biggs, Bannister, Warboys, Penrice, Lambert or Randall.
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Post by Bridgeman on Mar 16, 2015 21:02:50 GMT
I like miserable odd sods moaning about this sort of thing. I'm 28, I've seen us promoted once in my life of watching Rovers and relegated four times. Quite frankly success at any level for me is just dead nice. Us youngsters look back in awe at the teams that just missed out on promotion to the second tier with astonishment. I mean Paul Tovey was in the best Rovers squad I've seen. So don't give me this bollocks, let's enjoy it, it's success all be it at a lower level than usual but success all the same and as a club that doesn't come too often. Oh and Rickie Lambert was better than Randall you idiots. I'm an old sod but I hate the miserable moaning ones that come on here patronising those of us who are enjoying the effort the players are putting in this season because we are in a different league to where all our 'previous successes' have been acheived . I couldn't care two toots what league we are in, success is relative to where we are and we are in the lowest Division we've ever been in since we got into the League in the 1920's. And don't go giving me that 'demand better' 'if you're happy with this level' stuff either, of course I want better and am far from happy at the level we are at but we are where we are, get over it ! Oh and Biggs was far better than Lambert 'cos he headed heavy leather footballs with laces in.....ouch !!
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Post by faggotygas on Mar 16, 2015 21:18:44 GMT
Correct if its the board you are judging, not correct if its the manager, coaching staff and players. We are a Conference club, with a Conference budget, and the ability to only appeal to Conference players (with the odd exception), so we are no longer competent readers. Its like taking a competent reader, spinning them round 5 times, repeatedly smashing them over the head with mallet, then getting them to read Janet and John. They can only work with the situation that they are in. I'm not judging anyone, just stating the fact non league records do not trump or even equal league records. Clifton St Vincent's Rsrs 2 Bristol Rovers 26...big deal, get it? Ok, "if one is assessing" then. My point is, that scoreline would be a big deal, if we were in the same league as Clifton St Vincent Reserves (why did you choose a hypothetical club with such a long name? I'm tired), so could only attract roughly the same level of players as them, and were on the same budget.
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