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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 16:24:41 GMT
Much as I dislike our rival, I don't get all this. Barcelona have a similar multi-sport setup, anybody saying that they aren't a proper football club? Barcelona set up there own clubs, similar in Germany and other countries in Europe (1860 Munich weren't formed as a football team in 1860 but as a sports institute). What Stevie Boy is doing is wolfing up clubs and sticking them under one branding. It's completely different to what happens in other countries. Surely the clubs that he has financed welcomed him with open arms because they were desperate for money? I didn't hear of any of them refusing his advances I doubt very much that many of them would be as successful or even exist without Lansdowns money. The Gas Girls were cast off by Rovers due to their cost and the college picked up the baton. Lansdowns money has taken them to the next level so good luck to them as far as I am concerned. |
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Post by irishrover on Feb 18, 2015 17:16:51 GMT
It all depends on how much of a life time I have left!!! And nobody knows that!!! At this moment it looks most unlikely but there again who would have thought a few years back that we would now be a non league club? Actually quite a lot of people were warning about that possibility for at least 5 years before it happened and maybe longer; most of them were dismissed as depressing moaners at the time (including by me) for pointing out that the club was dysfunctional and heading for a major fall. |
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Post by irishrover on Feb 18, 2015 17:23:04 GMT
Much as I dislike our rival, I don't get all this. Barcelona have a similar multi-sport setup, anybody saying that they aren't a proper football club? Barcelona set up there own clubs, similar in Germany and other countries in Europe (1860 Munich weren't formed as a football team in 1860 but as a sports institute). What Stevie Boy is doing is wolfing up clubs and sticking them under one branding. It's completely different to what happens in other countries. Yes - there is a huge difference. Those European clubs were set up as multi-sports members clubs - it just so happened that sum arms of their sports section were so successful they went professional. It's still possible to join the cricket sections of AC Milan and Lazio I believe. I know someone who plays Ice Hockey for Barcelona - they have a rink at the Neu Camp and he just went along and joined one day. All the Portugese clubs operate like this too. It's not the same thing as hoovering up all the local professional sports teams and putting them under 1 umbrella organisation. The nearest comparison would be what John Hall did in Newcastle I think - took over the football club, the Rugby Club and built an arena for an Ice Hockey (which was very controversial as he basically franchised one of the most well liked and longest established Ice Hockey teams in the UK, the Durham Wasps, moved them to Newcastle where they duly bombed and went out of business) and a Basketball team. That ended in tears. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 17:52:19 GMT
Barcelona set up there own clubs, similar in Germany and other countries in Europe (1860 Munich weren't formed as a football team in 1860 but as a sports institute). What Stevie Boy is doing is wolfing up clubs and sticking them under one branding. It's completely different to what happens in other countries. Surely the clubs that he has financed welcomed him with open arms because they were desperate for money? I didn't hear of any of them refusing his advances I doubt very much that many of them would be as successful or even exist without Lansdowns money. The Gas Girls were cast off by Rovers due to their cost and the college picked up the baton. Lansdowns money has taken them to the next level so good luck to them as far as I am concerned. Before he was involved they'd been to a FA Cup final and played in the Champions League... Also worth noting he puts very little into the club bar rent on training facilities at SGS College. The reason Academy are part of Bristol Sport is the FA insisted on WSL clubs having links with men's clubs to retain their license. A truly bonkers decision as a strong WSL is about having strong independent clubs as well as those linked with male clubs. The clubs work together with their community project sharing coaches, Academy use Ashton Gate for Champions League games and City train and pay rent at SGS but that's as far as the relationship goes. Academy will have either the smallest or second smallest budget in the top flight next season not employing one professional, if Lansdowne has put in money I don't think we'd have seen three players leaving the club to take up professional contracts. Nice try though. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 18, 2015 19:47:14 GMT
Barcelona set up there own clubs, similar in Germany and other countries in Europe (1860 Munich weren't formed as a football team in 1860 but as a sports institute). What Stevie Boy is doing is wolfing up clubs and sticking them under one branding. It's completely different to what happens in other countries. Surely the clubs that he has financed welcomed him with open arms because they were desperate for money? I didn't hear of any of them refusing his advances I doubt very much that many of them would be as successful or even exist without Lansdowns money. The Gas Girls were cast off by Rovers due to their cost and the college picked up the baton. Lansdowns money has taken them to the next level so good luck to them as far as I am concerned. I thought Gas Girls as more to do with the fact that for Academy status they couldn't associated with a league club? But TBH I'm not sure where financing a girls team actually gets a league club other than a bit of PR, after all none of the players will ever appear in the first team, unlike our boys youth set up. Given the choice I'd sooner we spent money supporting our boys youth set up. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 22:40:09 GMT
Bristol is a black hole of football.
Black hole FC.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 22:47:34 GMT
Bristol is a black hole of football. Black hole FC. Watched a film once with a title like that. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 20, 2015 8:19:56 GMT
I have never understood this holier than thou pride stuff. I would be happy to be in the top on league 1 and going into the championship. It is only the bragging rights used in banter exchanges that it is of any benefit.
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Post by topman on Feb 20, 2015 15:28:31 GMT
I have never understood this holier than thou pride stuff. I would be happy to be in the top on league 1 and going into the championship. It is only the bragging rights used in banter exchanges that it is of any benefit. It depends on what you want football to be like and what 'sacrifices' you are happy with? Would you want Rovers to play in red just because an Asian chairman wants it - I wouldn't
Football is a financial cesspit and has been for many Most clubs including ours are not run on a business basis - in the normal commercial world they would just go bust but you have chairmen chasing the dream ploughing in millions of their own money and the premier league / sky deal further distorting matters in an unhealthy way
If the premier league and football agents didn't exists our local and national game would be in far better shape
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 15:59:29 GMT
I have never understood this holier than thou pride stuff. I would be happy to be in the top on league 1 and going into the championship. It is only the bragging rights used in banter exchanges that it is of any benefit. It depends on what you want football to be like and what 'sacrifices' you are happy with? Would you want Rovers to play in red just because an Asian chairman wants it - I wouldn't
Football is a financial cesspit and has been for many Most clubs including ours are not run on a business basis - in the normal commercial world they would just go bust but you have chairmen chasing the dream ploughing in millions of their own money and the premier league / sky deal further distorting matters in an unhealthy way
If the premier league and football agents didn't exists our local and national game would be in far better shape
I don't know what you can remember about football before Sky and The Premier League, my memories are recorded highlights Match of the Day and The Big Match, live FA And League Cup Finals and some live European stuff, most clubs were on the brink of administration, grounds were all as bad as the Mem and our best players went overseas to earn big money...whilst I agree about agents I cant see much negative about Sky/PL. |
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Post by topman on Feb 20, 2015 17:57:03 GMT
Premier League wages which 'filter' down to lower levels where clubs cannot sustain the expenditure against income
No money going to grass roots facilities in real terms
Too many foreign players which then blights our national team chances
Sky now have a virtual monopoly over all sporting rights unless you pay subscription to view
FA the organisation which is suppose to run our football is a lap dog of Sky/ Premier League
the list could continue..........
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Post by swissgas on Feb 20, 2015 18:25:59 GMT
Premier League wages which 'filter' down to lower levels where clubs cannot sustain the expenditure against income No money going to grass roots facilities in real terms Too many foreign players which then blights our national team chances Sky now have a virtual monopoly over all sporting rights unless you pay subscription to view FA the organisation which is suppose to run our football is a lap dog of Sky/ Premier League the list could continue.......... But I thought the Rovers "family" had now adopted the "looking after number one" approach as well ? I mean, we don't care about the NIMBY'S in Horfield as long as we get the money for our new ground and Sainsburys can build a glue factory on the Mem site for all we care. Surely we can't have it both ways ? We can't take that attitude ourselves and then criticise Premier League clubs when they do the same. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 20, 2015 19:31:37 GMT
Premier League wages which 'filter' down to lower levels where clubs cannot sustain the expenditure against income No money going to grass roots facilities in real terms Too many foreign players which then blights our national team chances Sky now have a virtual monopoly over all sporting rights unless you pay subscription to view FA the organisation which is suppose to run our football is a lap dog of Sky/ Premier League the list could continue.......... But I thought the Rovers "family" had now adopted the "looking after number one" approach as well ? I mean, we don't care about the NIMBY'S in Horfield as long as we get the money for our new ground and Sainsburys can build a glue factory on the Mem site for all we care. Surely we can't have it both ways ? We can't take that attitude ourselves and then criticise Premier League clubs when they do the same. Spot on |
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Post by topman on Feb 20, 2015 19:35:50 GMT
Rule one - don't make assumptions - maybe everyone does not think the same as you - perhaps some dont want to move from the Mem?
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