LPGas
Stuart Taylor
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Post by LPGas on Feb 14, 2015 23:25:18 GMT
Quotes from earlier in the season
1. I have no confidence in the fella. Good honest talker, yes; but where are all these quality, keen and enthusiastic players he keeps banging on about ? It is clear harrold, brown and smith will be gone. I personally think Clarke is a very keen cheap option with no real track record.
2. After pathetically failing last season it's only natural to have some doubts about DC
3. Can't say I am too impressed with the signings so far. But am certainly ready to give them a chance. But the next two to three signing need to be of a certain standard & experience if we are to get out of this division next May. In order to make these signings I believe we will need to spend some cash.
4. Mid table? If We are not in contention at Xmas he has to be sacked. This club needs to get back up this season otherwise it will be years before we get promoted
5. The only people to blame for last nights defeat were the Manager and the players and I would put 90% of the blame on DC
6. Of course it's the worst side, put together by the greatest collection of clowns ever to preside over Bristol Rovers Football Club
7. Yes of course. We are now a poor non league side. Last seasons was the worst in our history for getting us relegated, but now its worse
8. Sorry but I can't watch rovers being destroy by this board and DC we are a bad none league teem that will be relegated again. The biggest group of dicks I have had to watch in years, just be truthful with yourself
9. We have a manager who has achieved mid table in the conference , he bought players of the same standard, If he applied for the job with a cv he would never have got the job. If you want to get promotion you have to buy players who can achieve it, we cannot attract any decent players, its a terrible inditement of the club that we go to Forest Green Rovers thinking I hope we dont get stuffed
10. This has indeed gone far enough now Clarke and most of that squad are just not good enough for This level of football , this has gone beyond a joke now
11. Not a chance, I will wait until that Muppet of a manager goes and we start afresh once again, he got us relegated, yes he can talk the talk, but when it comes to walk the walk he is so out of his depth, need experience to get this team motivated.......
12. I believe the manager has a non league mentality. His background is non league
13. Well I couldn't be happier.The club's debts are roughly the same as their only asset, we have been turned over twice by part time teams already this season, but none of that matters, we get the rub of the green and manage our 3rd away win in about 18 months.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 23:31:37 GMT
I don't think any of them were mine, but just in case I stand by every word.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 23:51:30 GMT
1. Wasn't me, I'd never say fella.
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Bridgeman
Alfie Biggs
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Post by Bridgeman on Feb 14, 2015 23:53:24 GMT
Did you really say all that earlier in the season LP Gas, you should be ashamed of yourself  |
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irishrover
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Post by irishrover on Feb 15, 2015 11:41:37 GMT
What exactly does this prove beyond hindsight being 20/20?
Most of the doubts about DC were entirely justified - he was at the helm when we were relegated after all. He had a lot to prove and a lot of people to win round - he is doing so most impressively.
I think my view at the time was that I found his appointment a bit underwhelming but once we'd made it we had to stick with him - do I have the right to say 'I told you so' too then?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 11:56:26 GMT
I think those words were justified at the time.
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Post by lostinspace on Feb 15, 2015 12:03:42 GMT
pirates5B15D_thits the overwhelming lack of trust voiced toward DC that is in evidence here...... we can all say that "hindsight" is a wonderful thing, but then being able to accept you are /were wrong............... well thats another matter......... so far ,after an eye opening start to the season he has done pretty well,most of you will have to admit that.... the next 8 games will say .........."because your worth it"..........or not
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dagnogo
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Post by dagnogo on Feb 15, 2015 12:07:56 GMT
Every fan of every club has misjudged a player/coach.
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alwaysgas
Harry Bamford
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Post by alwaysgas on Feb 15, 2015 12:53:09 GMT
What exactly does this prove beyond hindsight being 20/20? Most of the doubts about DC were entirely justified - he was at the helm when we were relegated after all. He had a lot to prove and a lot of people to win round - he is doing so most impressively. I think my view at the time was that I found his appointment a bit underwhelming but once we'd made it we had to stick with him - do I have the right to say 'I told you so' too then? Does that mean I can stop going to the opticians Irish.  A lot of people were wearing blinkers earlier but whether we go up or not this has been a season when I have been proud again to be a rovers fan. We were excellent yesterday and but for their keeper would have won by at least 3 goals, although ironically he probably should have stopped the goal. The back four were rarely troubled and Leadbetter along with Parkes were superb with MCc and Lee not far behind. Tom had one of his best games of the season and Lee M didn't give them a minutes peace. I think Dawson is as good at the moment as LDV, although I suspect LDV has more potential plus AM, who isn't my favourite player. as he has lost a bit of pace. never stopped working. Taylor was the best forward on the field but he unfortunately brings out the best in opposition keepers. His left footed shot on the turn just after the pen. brought an outstanding save, which sadly is not on the highlights. I am not convinced on Blissett yet but he did have a decent second half, although I suspect his fitness levels are not quite up with the rest yet. For those that haven't heard it, there is a podcast of the non league show on the other forum under highlights and Darrell is interviewed after about 5 mins. He comes over very well and the interviewer seems to warm to him, however, some posters, absent this weekend, would probably only highlight him mixing up the Barnet and Braintree defeats. On a personal basis I usually find that away support of about 300 - 500 especially on long trips seem to generate the best atmosphere. The fans were brilliant yesterday with non stop support that was matched by the players. The continuous chant of Darrell Clarke's barmy army at the end made the long journey home fly by. |
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Feb 15, 2015 13:26:45 GMT
Can't blame some of the comments, although a lot of them are obviously redirected, deserved criticism of the board imo. Nobody expected Clarke to work miracles under Higgs, but he is having a good crack at it so far.
I would have been inclined to reserve the OP for the 26th of April/18th May though personally!
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irishrover
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Post by irishrover on Feb 15, 2015 15:19:58 GMT
What exactly does this prove beyond hindsight being 20/20? Most of the doubts about DC were entirely justified - he was at the helm when we were relegated after all. He had a lot to prove and a lot of people to win round - he is doing so most impressively. I think my view at the time was that I found his appointment a bit underwhelming but once we'd made it we had to stick with him - do I have the right to say 'I told you so' too then? Does that mean I can stop going to the opticians Irish. A lot of people were wearing blinkers earlier but whether we go up or not this has been a season when I have been proud again to be a rovers fan. We were excellent yesterday and but for their keeper would have won by at least 3 goals, although ironically he probably should have stopped the goal. The back four were rarely troubled and Leadbetter along with Parkes were superb with MCc and Lee not far behind. Tom had one of his best games of the season and Lee M didn't give them a minutes peace. I think Dawson is as good at the moment as LDV, although I suspect LDV has more potential plus AM, who isn't my favourite player. as he has lost a bit of pace. never stopped working. Taylor was the best forward on the field but he unfortunately brings out the best in opposition keepers. His left footed shot on the turn just after the pen. brought an outstanding save, which sadly is not on the highlights. I am not convinced on Blissett yet but he did have a decent second half, although I suspect his fitness levels are not quite up with the rest yet. For those that haven't heard it, there is a podcast of the non league show on the other forum under highlights and Darrell is interviewed after about 5 mins. He comes over very well and the interviewer seems to warm to him, however, some posters, absent this weekend, would probably only highlight him mixing up the Barnet and Braintree defeats. On a personal basis I usually find that away support of about 300 - 500 especially on long trips seem to generate the best atmosphere. The fans were brilliant yesterday with non stop support that was matched by the players. The continuous chant of Darrell Clarke's barmy army at the end made the long journey home fly by. Good - I'm upset I couldn't get there; valentine's commitments...... I remember having a similar experience at Grimsby just after Trollope took over where Chris Carruthurs secured us a very unlikely victory. I felt like something had turned then and it was the first time in ages I'd felt that Rovers pride be there. I hope this is the same and personally I'm completely convinced by Clarke - in all the games I've seen his game management has been excellent. But I can understand the scepticism, the guy was manager when we went down to a lot of people that means he has something to prove. I feel he's proved it but I don't think many will be happy until we go up and he's delivered something tangible; and I can understand that. |
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LincsBlue
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Post by LincsBlue on Feb 15, 2015 15:39:46 GMT
Not hindsight from myself, although he was at the helm when we were relegated, I always wanted to give him a chance with players of his own choosing.
We're not quite there yet, but the majority of a good team is there. Perhaps more importantly, there seems to be a work ethic, endeavour and a good spirit across the pitch.
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brizzle
Lindsay Parsons
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Post by brizzle on Feb 15, 2015 16:48:04 GMT
After reading the opening post, my first thought was how long did it take to compile all of those quotes?
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 15, 2015 17:21:53 GMT
After reading the opening post, my first thought was how long did it take to compile all of those quotes? On the old official forum was a poster using the moniker the bright side of life. He would copy swathes of comments to use at a later stage. Personally I find it very much stalker behaviour but whatever floats their boat eh. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 17:36:24 GMT
Those quotes say more about the ignorance about the Rovers situation from said posters than anything worthwhile.
They are angry from years of mismanagement from the top to bottom and had their scapegoat at the ready. IMO.
It would have been interesting that if Darrel Clarke did go at the end of last season and new manager, Mr `really experienced` X came in and we were near the bottom of the table/mid table at Christmas, would these people have said the same?
Its all hypothetical I know. But why is everything such a quick fix with some people? rebuilding a club in dire straits (money for nothing!) takes years not months.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 15, 2015 17:44:50 GMT
Those quotes say more about the ignorance about the Rovers situation from said posters than anything worthwhile. They are angry from years of mismanagement from the top to bottom and had their scapegoat at the ready. IMO. It would have been interesting that if Darrel Clarke did go at the end of last season and new manager, Mr `really experienced` X came in and we were near the bottom of the table/mid table at Christmas, would these people have said the same? Its all hypothetical I know. But why is everything such a quick fix with some people? rebuilding a club in dire straits (money for nothing!) takes years not months. It's been awful ever since Nick Higgs decided that we could buy in talent rather than use our scouts and youth system. It's as simple as that really. Not complicated and then the fans obviously get stuck in a blame culture that started right at the top. I don't know what your feelings are but I really did not like the it's all Wards fault stuff. I found it both unprofessional and distasteful. When you have a manager who was quite happy to name names, in blaming people, he then had to have a thick skin to handle the same back at him. For instance, DC went as far as blaming the fans earlier this season. I used to think that there was a big difference between us and the Teds, I don't think it's much of a difference now. |
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Lindsay Parsons
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Post by brizzle on Feb 15, 2015 17:51:27 GMT
Those quotes say more about the ignorance about the Rovers situation from said posters than anything worthwhile. They are angry from years of mismanagement from the top to bottom and had their scapegoat at the ready. IMO. It would have been interesting that if Darrel Clarke did go at the end of last season and new manager, Mr `really experienced` X came in and we were near the bottom of the table/mid table at Christmas, would these people have said the same? Its all hypothetical I know. But why is everything such a quick fix with some people? rebuilding a club in dire straits (money for nothing!) takes years not months. It's been awful ever since Nick Higgs decided that we could buy in talent rather than use our scouts and youth system. It's as simple as that really. Not complicated and then the fans obviously get stuck in a blame culture that started right at the top. I don't know what your feelings are but I really did not like the it's all Wards fault stuff. I found it both unprofessional and distasteful. When you have a manager who was quite happy to name names, in blaming people, he then had to have a thick skin to handle the same back at him. For instance, DC went as far as blaming the fans earlier this season. I used to think that there was a big difference between us and the Teds, I don't think it's much of a difference now. Steady on old chap. Too many more posts like this, and you'll find yourself being blackballed. But I do broadly agree though. |
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 15, 2015 21:57:56 GMT
It's been awful ever since Nick Higgs decided that we could buy in talent rather than use our scouts and youth system. It's as simple as that really. Not complicated and then the fans obviously get stuck in a blame culture that started right at the top. I don't know what your feelings are but I really did not like the it's all Wards fault stuff. I found it both unprofessional and distasteful. When you have a manager who was quite happy to name names, in blaming people, he then had to have a thick skin to handle the same back at him. For instance, DC went as far as blaming the fans earlier this season. I used to think that there was a big difference between us and the Teds, I don't think it's much of a difference now. Steady on old chap. Too many more posts like this, and you'll find yourself being blackballed. But I do broadly agree though. It's ok Brizzle, I have never had the Sheep mentality and so I have had to get used to periodic times of being a pariah. The thing is, if you tell the truth then you have nothing to fear. It all balances out over time. I think DC is definitely learning and I believe that, when he looks back at some of the things he has said, he will see some were naive. I now at least am giving him the grace of understanding he is learning. I think any of us can only judge others through our own lens ultimately and my Dad brought us up to take responsibility for our own mistakes but to be very careful when apportioning blame upon others. I just feel it's not something that does anygood. I also think it is part & parcel of the club we have now, in the modern age. I can't imagine Dodgin, Tann, Megson ever saying it was X's fault. Maybe I am just an old fart who has a differing view. I hope DC goes onto be become a Rovers legend. I do not have any agenda. I hope we all are able to celebrate a promotion winning season come May |
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jozer
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Post by jozer on Feb 15, 2015 23:05:07 GMT
I said before the season started that Rovers would never be in the top half of the table at any point. More than happy to eat my words. I always thought it was daft to either proclaim DC as the Messiah or write him off as a no-hoper based on his short term in charge at the end of last season. I certainly take my hat off to him for what he has achieved this season at a club that is in chaos generally. Rovers never had any 'right' to be challenging for anything this season and the first team and their manager have done brilliantly to be where they are now.
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jozer
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Post by jozer on Feb 15, 2015 23:09:02 GMT
It's been awful ever since Nick Higgs decided that we could buy in talent rather than use our scouts and youth system. It's as simple as that really. KP, that decision was made long before Higgs ever set foot in Box 1. |
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