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Post by Curly Wurly on Jan 23, 2015 19:38:06 GMT
Simple question:
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 23, 2015 19:40:58 GMT
I voted at the UWE in L1.
And, if the nephew of the former foreign minister of Nigeria who offered to send me £48m is reading this, mail me as I've lost your address.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 19:42:34 GMT
At The Mem in league two for me. Can't see how the current custodians can take us anywhere higher than league two or anywhere other than the mem.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 19:47:48 GMT
I fear whilst our eye is off the ball worrying about the UWE/Sainsburys we could miss out this year which would be tragic.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 23, 2015 20:15:00 GMT
Impossible to say where we'll be in a year let alone 5 years?
Everything seems to rest now on the outcome of the Sainsbury's litigation, we can either be left with a £10m debt along with a run down Mem looking for new owners, or £30m in compensation along with potential to still build the UWE and probably investors queuing up to get on board, or left somewhere between those two extremes.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jan 23, 2015 20:54:18 GMT
Impossible to say where we'll be in a year let alone 5 years? Everything seems to rest now on the outcome of the Sainsbury's litigation, we can either be left with a £10m debt along with a run down Mem looking for new owners, or £30m in compensation along with potential to still build the UWE and probably investors queuing up to get on board, or left somewhere between those two extremes. . That's why I tried to include all options. Where do you think we'll be?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 23, 2015 21:03:09 GMT
No idea really as you can get a feeling for how strong, or weak, our case is against Sainsbury's. Although as it's Rovers we're talking about we'll probably scrape another compensation to clear some of our debts and so stay at the Mem, and slowly redevelop it under new leadership.
Footballing wise if we don't go up this season, assuming we can keep the same squad next season despite losing the parachute payment, then we should go up next season, hopefully we can then press on in Div 2.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 23:57:31 GMT
No idea really as you can get a feeling for how strong, or weak, our case is against Sainsbury's. Although as it's Rovers we're talking about we'll probably scrape another compensation to clear some of our debts and so stay at the Mem, and slowly redevelop it under new leadership. Footballing wise if we don't go up this season, assuming we can keep the same squad next season despite losing the parachute payment, then we should go up next season, hopefully we can then press on in Div 2. Fk me when have we ever slowly devoloped, we went from trumpton to memorial dump! We even had to pay for the roof on the blackthorn didn't we? I think it's called backward devolpment.
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Post by dinsdale on Jan 24, 2015 5:57:39 GMT
Bankrupt :-)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2015 7:37:48 GMT
Out of Business without the UWE
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Post by sharkey on Jan 24, 2015 11:13:57 GMT
No idea really as you can get a feeling for how strong, or weak, our case is against Sainsbury's. Although as it's Rovers we're talking about we'll probably scrape another compensation to clear some of our debts and so stay at the Mem, and slowly redevelop it under new leadership. Footballing wise if we don't go up this season, assuming we can keep the same squad next season despite losing the parachute payment, then we should go up next season, hopefully we can then press on in Div 2. Fk me when have we ever slowly devoloped, we went from trumpton to memorial dump! We even had to pay for the roof on the blackthorn didn't we? I think it's called backward devolpment. As others have mentioned on other subjects, the Mem was looking a bit worse for wear when we took over and we should have developed it 15 years ago instead of letting it slide. Nothing fanciful or huge as in the need to get planning permissions, but just general flipping maintenance. We wondered why we struggled to get good young players in. The ground is so old and decrepit it is embarrassing.
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 24, 2015 11:38:11 GMT
Out of Business without the UWE I think we really have to think of life without the UWE now - and hope that staying at the Mem and redeveloping is viable. The UWE was an ambitious project which looks increasingly like it will not be delivered. I'm not a pessimist - I am a realist. Out of interest has anyone heard anything from the UWE recently? I can't think of any quotes from them over the last 6 months (and possibly a lot longer). I heard from a former senior rugby player that the UWE went cold over the partnership when the rugby club upped and left for the red scum. The UWE ideal was a Football and Rugby centre of excellence - and was not just Football. Just wonder if anyone has heard the same.
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Post by Igitur on Jan 24, 2015 11:45:45 GMT
I think with DC as the manager he will keep his eye on promotion and the UWE sideshow will go its own way. He seems focussed on the task and will do his best despite the shenanigans of the board.
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Post by csssmooth on Jan 24, 2015 11:47:29 GMT
I might be being a bit dumb here, but could someone, preferably the person who voted for it, explain 'elsewhere' to me, I can't picture what isn't covered by conference or lower. I suppose flogging the Mem and failing to get a new ground, I preferred my first imaginings of playing in the inaugral robo football premier or playing our new outer space neighbours in the outer limits premier division
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2015 12:24:20 GMT
Out of Business without the UWE I think we really have to think of life without the UWE now - and hope that staying at the Mem and redeveloping is viable. The UWE was an ambitious project which looks increasingly like it will not be delivered. I'm not a pessimist - I am a realist. Out of interest has anyone heard anything from the UWE recently? I can't think of any quotes from them over the last 6 months (and possibly a lot longer). I heard from a former senior rugby player that the UWE went cold over the partnership when the rugby club upped and left for the red scum. The UWE ideal was a Football and Rugby centre of excellence - and was not just Football. Just wonder if anyone has heard the same. I'm a Realist as well... When the UWE Falls through and whatever money we get from Sainsbury becomes available, that will go to the directors to pay the loans off and they will then jump ship as fast as they can, leaving us with a run down stadium and no money to do anything
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 24, 2015 12:25:39 GMT
Out of Business without the UWE I think we really have to think of life without the UWE now - and hope that staying at the Mem and redeveloping is viable. The UWE was an ambitious project which looks increasingly like it will not be delivered. I'm not a pessimist - I am a realist. Out of interest has anyone heard anything from the UWE recently? I can't think of any quotes from them over the last 6 months (and possibly a lot longer). I heard from a former senior rugby player that the UWE went cold over the partnership when the rugby club upped and left for the red scum. The UWE ideal was a Football and Rugby centre of excellence - and was not just Football. Just wonder if anyone has heard the same. That could be true as in my experience Uni's are big on rugby but have little interest in football, after all how many league footballers have degrees?? Although like Sainsbury's there's still a contract in place for the stadium.
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Post by dagnogo on Jan 24, 2015 13:02:36 GMT
Either....
We'll get compensation from Sainsbury's, pay the debts off, the spivs will sell up and we'll be at the Mem in the lower reaches of the football league
Or...
We get the Compo, Higgs will sell up but the only bidders are current board members, we sell, and 1980s saviour Geoff Dunford plunges the club into trouble again, to the sound of his loyal morons praising him in the background.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2015 13:07:19 GMT
Either.... We'll get compensation from Sainsbury's, pay the debts off, the spivs will sell up and we'll be at the Mem in the lower reaches of the football league Or... We get the Compo, Higgs will sell up but the only bidders are current board members, we sell, and 1980s saviour Geoff Dunford plunges the club into trouble again, to the sound of his loyal morons praising him in the background. did we not pay his small loan off recently
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jan 24, 2015 13:14:04 GMT
I might be being a bit dumb here, but could someone, preferably the person who voted for it, explain 'elsewhere' to me, I can't picture what isn't covered by conference or lower. I suppose flogging the Mem and failing to get a new ground, I preferred my first imaginings of playing in the inaugral robo football premier or playing our new outer space neighbours in the outer limits premier division I put it as on option on the poll as a bit of a wild card. It could include a ground sharing option (possibly unlikely), but it could include at a new site other than UWE. As it is probably the least likely scenario, I didn't bother putting the various league options.. The person who voted for this may like to expand.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jan 24, 2015 13:23:31 GMT
I think we really have to think of life without the UWE now - and hope that staying at the Mem and redeveloping is viable. The UWE was an ambitious project which looks increasingly like it will not be delivered. I'm not a pessimist - I am a realist. Out of interest has anyone heard anything from the UWE recently? I can't think of any quotes from them over the last 6 months (and possibly a lot longer). I heard from a former senior rugby player that the UWE went cold over the partnership when the rugby club upped and left for the red scum. The UWE ideal was a Football and Rugby centre of excellence - and was not just Football. Just wonder if anyone has heard the same. That could be true as in my experience Uni's are big on rugby but have little interest in football, after all how many league footballers have degrees?? Although like Sainsbury's there's still a contract in place for the stadium. I disagree. Universities are (big) businesses and the rather archaic vision of them being the preserve of upper class , rugger playing toffs is completely misguided. There is a business case for a university linking up with a football club. Although the UWE stadium is novel in the UK, it is certainly common in the US. I'd also point out that plenty of Universities have links with league teams for training grounds. e.g. Cardiff City at the University of South Wales where Rovers trained pre-season. By and large, Universities now have excellent sports facilities and many have good sports science departments that get plenty of benefit from being closely linked with professional sport. They are also often centres for coach education (UEFA licences etc.). But I will concede, few professional players have degrees. My personal opinion is that the UWE is becoming less likely - which is a shame for both parties. As well as the stadium, I could envisage Rovers setting up a first class training facility at UWE with all the benefits that being embedded in a University brings.
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