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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 19:08:28 GMT
Yep, anyone coming out with prejudiced crap as per my example is subscribing to dinosaur views. Outdated, dying out, thankfully extinct soon. No ageism on display at all Mr Clever Clogs As for the other rubbish. Jesus F Christ, get a grip. People who experience prejudice on the terraces/in the workplace etc band together to provide a little solidarity and this is the wrong thing to do is it? No, clearly it isn't. Given some of the songs/chants that are de rigeur every time we play Brighton for example, I'd say a group that enables LGBT Gasheads to stick together and speak out against this kind of idiotic prejudice which has every chance of putting them off from following the club is perfectly necessary. Btw, Police officers aren't allowed trade union membership. There is a staff association (the Police Federation). The NBPA is an interest group which is probably sorely needed given the history of racism in the UK police force Jesus F Christ ? are you deliberately trying to be offensive to people ? if not perhaps you should read that book Prejudice and Discrimination or get some Diversity awareness training.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 19:33:15 GMT
Yep, anyone coming out with prejudiced crap as per my example is subscribing to dinosaur views. Outdated, dying out, thankfully extinct soon. No ageism on display at all Mr Clever Clogs As for the other rubbish. Jesus F Christ, get a grip. People who experience prejudice on the terraces/in the workplace etc band together to provide a little solidarity and this is the wrong thing to do is it? No, clearly it isn't. Given some of the songs/chants that are de rigeur every time we play Brighton for example, I'd say a group that enables LGBT Gasheads to stick together and speak out against this kind of idiotic prejudice which has every chance of putting them off from following the club is perfectly necessary. Btw, Police officers aren't allowed trade union membership. There is a staff association (the Police Federation). The NBPA is an interest group which is probably sorely needed given the history of racism in the UK police force Jesus F Christ ? are you deliberately trying to be offensive to people ? if not perhaps you should read that book Prejudice and Discrimination or get some Diversity awareness training. Or alternatively he and the rest of us could all give the prescriptive thought police directives and socialist reeducation nonsense a miss, personally I really don't care about anyone else's sexuality, football club allegiance, age, colour, income group, cycling habits etc etc etc because it's nothing to do with me but sure as **** I'm not having anyone tell me what I can think and I have bit of a gut feeling so many others in this country share my view there's going to be a bit of a backlash. "Diversity awareness training" indeed, the people expousing this nonsense are the real problem and should mind their own business instead of creating conflict where none exist. I expect there's a book somewhere I should read about how we should all be aware of and tolerant of these dangerous idiots.
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Post by devonwhite on Jan 25, 2015 21:02:25 GMT
Someone will ask why we don't have the Music Of White Origin awards next Why don't we though? People bang on about equality then create things (such as the MOBOs) which I think highlights differences. Fed up with political correctness and positive discrimination.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 21:14:18 GMT
Jesus F Christ ? are you deliberately trying to be offensive to people ? if not perhaps you should read that book Prejudice and Discrimination or get some Diversity awareness training. Or alternatively he and the rest of us could all give the prescriptive thought police directives and socialist reeducation nonsense a miss, personally I really don't care about anyone else's sexuality, football club allegiance, age, colour, income group, cycling habits etc etc etc because it's nothing to do with me but sure as **** I'm not having anyone tell me what I can think and I have bit of a gut feeling so many others in this country share my view there's going to be a bit of a backlash. "Diversity awareness training" indeed, the people expousing this nonsense are the real problem and should mind their own business instead of creating conflict where none exist. I expect there's a book somewhere I should read about how we should all be aware of and tolerant of these dangerous idiots. Blimey, self-awareness training maybe. i think your 'personally I really don't care' statement needs revisiting after you progress through 'backlash', 'conflict' and 'dangerous idiots'. it's a bunch of people talking about having a social group.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 21:37:21 GMT
Or alternatively he and the rest of us could all give the prescriptive thought police directives and socialist reeducation nonsense a miss, personally I really don't care about anyone else's sexuality, football club allegiance, age, colour, income group, cycling habits etc etc etc because it's nothing to do with me but sure as **** I'm not having anyone tell me what I can think and I have bit of a gut feeling so many others in this country share my view there's going to be a bit of a backlash. "Diversity awareness training" indeed, the people expousing this nonsense are the real problem and should mind their own business instead of creating conflict where none exist. I expect there's a book somewhere I should read about how we should all be aware of and tolerant of these dangerous idiots. Blimey, self-awareness training maybe. i think your 'personally I really don't care' statement needs revisiting after you progress through 'backlash', 'conflict' and 'dangerous idiots'. it's a bunch of people talking about having a social group. Sounds like you're one of the people I'm talking about, I don't need special training to be agreeable to you, it's a fact of life not everybody can be, however as you obviously don't understand the thread or the post I've responded too or my response I'll leave you to your presumably sterile and PC thoughts...I'll not insult you by suggesting a reading list for your enlightenment.
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Post by lostinspace on Jan 25, 2015 21:49:24 GMT
Someone will ask why we don't have the Music Of White Origin awards next could be a short show..........adverts could be the best thing showing!!!
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Post by manorfarmgas on Jan 25, 2015 22:07:07 GMT
Can I just sincerely ask why this isn't a good news story pure and simple ? Gasheads proclaiming their Gas-ness in a way that is surely completely inoffensive to any other thinking person or group (I'm sorry - at this point in the 21st century I can't consider anyone who thinks homosexuality is a moral failing to be a 'thinking person'). Good on them, and anyone else who wants to support us while we pay our dues in the basement league?
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 25, 2015 22:21:14 GMT
Someone will ask why we don't have the Music Of White Origin awards next could be a short show..........adverts could be the best thing showing!!! Yes, basically that's country and western, classical music and British folk music. Fun!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 23:11:16 GMT
I did question how long it would take for people to moan about this. Surely the inclusive bit is that they are Bristol Rovers supporters, part of a bigger picture? As Seth said there is Weston Super Mare Gas so why not a LGBT Gas or Black Gas or Sikh Gas or Ashton Gas or whatever Gas? I want people to feel comfortable watching Rovers, to enjoy it, with friends, with people they have things in common with and this is a thing in common. I don't see how anyone can have a problem with people trying to make themselves enjoy watching the club more and hopefully brining more people in!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 23:35:42 GMT
Someone will ask why we don't have the Music Of White Origin awards next could be a short show..........adverts could be the best thing showing!!!
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Post by chelt_gas on Jan 26, 2015 8:04:07 GMT
Groups tend to form either because of a common element that brings people together or because of external factors that pushes people together. Personally I would encourage free speech including prejudice or comments that may appear close to the bone. It is when we are so scared to say something or comment on a matter where I worry. If you can discuss something openly and allow people to challenge and debate then the matter becomes more sensitive and then an issue. However, allowing people to make light of a subject, in a context that's not sinister, is a very healthy cultural exercise. After all, how many people have gay friends where the friendship is helped on the very subject being part of humor and ridicule as much as the other persons imperfections?
I think UK society is so uptight. People want to be offended to then basque in some sort of moral standard victory.
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Post by Swedish Gas on Jan 26, 2015 8:18:10 GMT
could be a short show..........adverts could be the best thing showing!!! Yes, basically that's country and western, classical music and British folk music. Fun! Don't forget Abba!
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Post by nit3owl64 on Jan 26, 2015 10:02:33 GMT
could be a short show..........adverts could be the best thing showing!!! Sorry think even the origins of this are from the blues
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 26, 2015 11:04:41 GMT
Groups tend to form either because of a common element that brings people together or because of external factors that pushes people together. Personally I would encourage free speech including prejudice or comments that may appear close to the bone. It is when we are so scared to say something or comment on a matter where I worry. If you can discuss something openly and allow people to challenge and debate then the matter becomes more sensitive and then an issue. However, allowing people to make light of a subject, in a context that's not sinister, is a very healthy cultural exercise. After all, how many people have gay friends where the friendship is helped on the very subject being part of humor and ridicule as much as the other persons imperfections? I think UK society is so uptight. People want to be offended to then basque in some sort of moral standard victory. Yea, right...you can't say bomb on a plane!
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 26, 2015 11:08:59 GMT
It's actually dangerous to not be able to have freedom of speech in a so called modern society.
Sticks and stones and all that.
Not advocating extremism in any way and some words become offensive over time, but the word Teds has evolved, with the general thrust of what is being conveyed has remained.
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Post by strung out on Jan 26, 2015 11:14:27 GMT
Using the name Ted to refer to City fans is f**king s**t though, not least because that's my name.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 20:36:26 GMT
Jesus F Christ ? are you deliberately trying to be offensive to people ? if not perhaps you should read that book Prejudice and Discrimination or get some Diversity awareness training. Or alternatively he and the rest of us could all give the prescriptive thought police directives and socialist reeducation nonsense a miss, personally I really don't care about anyone else's sexuality, football club allegiance, age, colour, income group, cycling habits etc etc etc because it's nothing to do with me but sure as **** I'm not having anyone tell me what I can think and I have bit of a gut feeling so many others in this country share my view there's going to be a bit of a backlash. "Diversity awareness training" indeed, the people expousing this nonsense are the real problem and should mind their own business instead of creating conflict where none exist. I expect there's a book somewhere I should read about how we should all be aware of and tolerant of these dangerous idiots. Very well said Mr Monster.
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Post by aghast on Jan 26, 2015 21:56:20 GMT
It's not an ideal situation that blacks, gays and other minorities form their own groups. On the other hand, it's not ideal that those people have been enslaved, persecuted, disenfranchised, tortured and abused for many centuries, including up to the present day - if not here currently then certainly elsewhere around the world, and in a world where intolerance seems to be the norm again. So the fact that they set up their own groups can surely not be a surprise to anyone. We should celebrate the fact that members of certain minority groups want to engage with the majority. Within their own groups, since the normal experience of football suggests they are not welcome.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 22:27:56 GMT
It's not an ideal situation that blacks, gays and other minorities form their own groups. On the other hand, it's not ideal that those people have been enslaved, persecuted, disenfranchised, tortured and abused for many centuries, including up to the present day - if not here currently then certainly elsewhere around the world, and in a world where intolerance seems to be the norm again. So the fact that they set up their own groups can surely not be a surprise to anyone. We should celebrate the fact that members of certain minority groups want to engage with the majority. Within their own groups, since the normal experience of football suggests they are not welcome. It's neither ideal or not, it's up to them, provided their legal activities don't interfere with the legal activities of others they are free to do what they want. I don't even think there's a case for whites joining black organisations or straight joining LBGT clubs, if people want to form a club whos membership is made up of people with similar interests, that's just fine...it would be bizarre for instance if the local Conservative party welcomes Labour activists and vice versa. It strikes that most intolerance in this country comes from those stuffing their view of tolerance down the throats of everyone else.
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Post by badbloodash on Jan 26, 2015 22:47:38 GMT
could be a short show..........adverts could be the best thing showing!!! Yes, basically that's country and western, classical music and British folk music. Fun! Always wondered how jazz rhythm and blues etc were classed as music of black origin when it's all played on instruments invented by white people and before anyone starts slagging me off I'll bet anyone on here a tenner I have one of the diverse ancestry on this forum
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