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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 18:30:33 GMT
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 15, 2014 18:33:33 GMT
Brave header for the second goal
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 18:47:22 GMT
They don't look any better seeing them a second time. We absolutely gifted them both goals.
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Post by GasPanic! on Dec 15, 2014 19:00:44 GMT
Tragic defending.
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Post by tbonegas on Dec 15, 2014 20:25:18 GMT
Proper strikers goal that second one was. If only our bloke was that good.
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Post by clockendgas on Dec 15, 2014 21:20:08 GMT
Proper strikers goal that second one was. If only our bloke was that good. ex sheted, im sorry to say, but brave sticking his head in there, wanted it more, very sad to see
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Post by stevek192 on Dec 16, 2014 1:51:17 GMT
First goal was dire goalkeeping as pushed it on to his own player. Second goal keeper should have been screaming to Leadbitter to kick the ball out. There was no control from the keeper over his defenders but Leadbitter was very slack as well. The second goal should also have been heade4d clear by the defender who allowed Artus to get to it first when it favoured the defender.
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Post by stig-of-the-gas on Dec 16, 2014 7:24:49 GMT
First goal was dire goalkeeping as pushed it on to his own player. Second goal keeper should have been screaming to Leadbitter to kick the ball out. There was no control from the keeper over his defenders but Leadbitter was very slack as well. The second goal should also have been heade4d clear by the defender who allowed Artus to get to it first when it favoured the defender. For the first goal the defender at the near post could have headed it away but clearly got a call from the keeper who then completely fluffed it. 100% keepers fault. For the second I thought Trotman should have given clear instructions to Leadbitter. Either way he should have been told what to do - if you don't get a call you have to stick it out. Danny Liability I am afraid.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 16, 2014 9:21:20 GMT
First goal was dire goalkeeping as pushed it on to his own player. Second goal keeper should have been screaming to Leadbitter to kick the ball out. There was no control from the keeper over his defenders but Leadbitter was very slack as well. The second goal should also have been heade4d clear by the defender who allowed Artus to get to it first when it favoured the defender. For the first goal the defender at the near post could have headed it away but clearly got a call from the keeper who then completely fluffed it. 100% keepers fault. For the second I thought Trotman should have given clear instructions to Leadbitter. Either way he should have been told what to do - if you don't get a call you have to stick it out. Danny Liability I am afraid. Yeah, you don't pass it back to goal under pressure like that from that angle without a very clear idea of where everyone is, or without a proper shout from the keeper. Can't see Spiess being at fault for that.
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Post by Gwengers on Dec 16, 2014 9:47:17 GMT
The players movement on the second goal sums it all up. No defensive urgency.
I don't want to deny Bath their moment (a chap on their thread "Literally couldn't breathe after the minute long mosh" ... its the FA Trophy for christs sake?!), nor do I want to piss all over a Clarke roasting bonfire, but I think the players were more than aware that going out of this competition actually suited us in the long run. Which it does - for me, absolutely.
It is not even just a case of the Gateshead result, we may lose on Friday but it still would not be worth us still being in that competition.
That said, our new goalkeeper looks diabolical. He made a couple of stops i'd honestly expect any keeper to make at Welling, but did drop a simple cross and almost gift them a goal, too.
Watching Wycombe riding high in League Two just makes me too angry to possibly care about anything else. We need to get back in the League and this competition wouldn't have helped that one bit.
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Post by LJG on Dec 16, 2014 10:32:20 GMT
The players movement on the second goal sums it all up. No defensive urgency. I don't want to deny Bath their moment (a chap on their thread "Literally couldn't breathe after the minute long mosh" ... its the FA Trophy for christs sake?!), nor do I want to piss all over a Clarke roasting bonfire, but I think the players were more than aware that going out of this competition actually suited us in the long run. Which it does - for me, absolutely. It is not even just a case of the Gateshead result, we may lose on Friday but it still would not be worth us still being in that competition. That said, our new goalkeeper looks diabolical. He made a couple of stops i'd honestly expect any keeper to make at Welling, but did drop a simple cross and almost gift them a goal, too. Watching Wycombe riding high in League Two just makes me too angry to possibly care about anything else. We need to get back in the League and this competition wouldn't have helped that one bit. Like the JPT final didn't help in 07 and the LDV final didn't help in 90?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 11:57:39 GMT
2 dreadful goals but no way in the world was our defender favourite to get the pull back on the 2nd goal,utter rubbish to say artus wanted it more,look at it properly! i dont agree it was good to go out of the competition but now we are out everyone from players to fans need to put it behind them
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Post by jqgas on Dec 16, 2014 12:10:36 GMT
The thing which worried me most was the lack of awareness/reaction for the second goal from Trotman. Maybe he's not quite back to match sharpness but he scarcely moves as the Bath forward anticipates the back pass, intercepts, swivels and then clips it back into the box. By the time he reacts it's too late and he's too far away to challenge the for the header. Before his injury he was a mainstay of the team - I just hope this was a one-off and he gets his "A" game back pronto.
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Post by Gwengers on Dec 16, 2014 12:44:29 GMT
Like the JPT final didn't help in 07 and the LDV final didn't help in 90? At least the teams in these competitions were moderately good. The only good team in the competition, or division, are Barnet (who clearly gave it everything against Concord Rangers and now have to play a replay). I can't get excited over a cup competition like that. It is beyond a waste of time. Luton managed to go up last year despite an FA Cup exit to Welling (admittedly away, but they are probably as bad as Bath) and a loss in the Trophy to Cambridge. They coped just fine.
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Post by clockendgas on Dec 16, 2014 20:07:14 GMT
The players movement on the second goal sums it all up. No defensive urgency. I don't want to deny Bath their moment (a chap on their thread "Literally couldn't breathe after the minute long mosh" ... its the FA Trophy for christs sake?!), nor do I want to piss all over a Clarke roasting bonfire, but I think the players were more than aware that going out of this competition actually suited us in the long run. Which it does - for me, absolutely. It is not even just a case of the Gateshead result, we may lose on Friday but it still would not be worth us still being in that competition. That said, our new goalkeeper looks diabolical. He made a couple of stops i'd honestly expect any keeper to make at Welling, but did drop a simple cross and almost gift them a goal, too. Watching Wycombe riding high in League Two just makes me too angry to possibly care about anything else. We need to get back in the League and this competition wouldn't have helped that one bit. Like the JPT final didn't help in 07 and the LDV final didn't help in 90? yes and sadly citys run in the jpt is really affecting their league form, imho any win is a good win as they breed success
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Post by clockendgas on Dec 16, 2014 20:10:58 GMT
Like the JPT final didn't help in 07 and the LDV final didn't help in 90? At least the teams in these competitions were moderately good. The only good team in the competition, or division, are Barnet (who clearly gave it everything against Concord Rangers and now have to play a replay). I can't get excited over a cup competition like that. It is beyond a waste of time. Luton managed to go up last year despite an FA Cup exit to Welling (admittedly away, but they are probably as bad as Bath) and a loss in the Trophy to Cambridge. They coped just fine. how the fooking hell you can call bath "bad" is beyond me, they have just pizzed all over us ffs
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Post by Gwengers on Dec 17, 2014 9:32:10 GMT
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Post by The Concept on Dec 20, 2014 12:50:41 GMT
Well played Bath City and well done to the 404 fans - they were all I could hear on the radio, and pretty much non-stop throughout the game.
As to the first goal, who has it officially gone down to? - Rovers website says "... Chas Hemmings turned home a Frankie Artus corner." - Bath City's website says "own goal", without stipulating which player. - Bristol Post says "... Frankie Artus scored direct from and in-swinging corner...". - BBC, Sporting Life, and the FA websites don't bother putting scorers names in for the FA Trophy.
Rovers are clearly wrong as there wasn't a Bath player anywhere near the ball. The Post is wrong as it came off 2 Rovers players before going in. Bath City have got it right with an own goal, but who does it go against? Spiess or Brown?
Spiess tries to keep it out and only succeeds in knocking it into Browners back and then it diverts into the net. When I saw the still-photos in the Sunday papers I did wonder if Lee Brown had got in the way and blocked the 'keepers sight, but then again it's the goalkeepers job to get him out the way and get to the ball. - If it hadn't hit Brown it would have stayed out: so you could say 'Brown o.g.' as it came off him last and changed the flight of the ball. And perhaps he should have either made an effort to clear it himself, or got out of the way. - If Spiess had caught the ball, or made a better claim for it, it wouldn't have hit Brown: so you could say 'Spiess o.g.' as it was his fault it cannoned off Brown, even though he initially stopped it going over the line.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 20, 2014 14:46:58 GMT
Spiess tries to keep it out and only succeeds in knocking it into Browners back and then it diverts into the net. When I saw the still-photos in the Sunday papers I did wonder if Lee Brown had got in the way and blocked the 'keepers sight, but then again it's the goalkeepers job to get him out the way and get to the ball. - If it hadn't hit Brown it would have stayed out: so you could say 'Brown o.g.' as it came off him last and changed the flight of the ball. And perhaps he should have either made an effort to clear it himself, or got out of the way. - If Spiess had caught the ball, or made a better claim for it, it wouldn't have hit Brown: so you could say 'Spiess o.g.' as it was his fault it cannoned off Brown, even though he initially stopped it going over the line. Istm Browner got a shout from Spiess and ducked out of the header at the last moment. It wasn't his fault, but it has to go down as his, imo. Brown (og)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 17:23:46 GMT
Obviously a Brown own goal, but 100% the keepers fault.
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