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Post by phillistine on Jun 8, 2014 17:58:48 GMT
Unless things have changed over recent years, players were always given a basic wage and then had the ability to quite dramatically improve this with things like appearance money, bonuses for goals etc. They also have lump sums signing on fees and other extras were earned without too much hard work .
So whilst someone may want to retain " face" by stating he was on £2k a week - that may have been his basic - which rose bearing in mind that he played many games and scored quite a few goals.
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Jun 8, 2014 18:01:54 GMT
When you consider losses were £800,000 last year, you could easily see someone like O'Toole taking £200,000 a year.
I know for a fact Joe Jacobson was earning £90,000 a year whilst at the club.
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Post by Lazza on Jun 8, 2014 18:06:59 GMT
When you consider losses were £800,000 last year, you could easily see someone like O'Toole taking £200,000 a year. I know for a fact Joe Jacobson was earning £90,000 a year whilst at the club. It's crazy money for 4th division isn't it? Well, I think we all know where the buck (?!?) stops on this issue. Over to you Nicholas ..........
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Post by brizzle on Jun 8, 2014 18:16:11 GMT
When you consider losses were £800,000 last year, you could easily see someone like O'Toole taking £200,000 a year. I know for a fact Joe Jacobson was earning £90,000 a year whilst at the club. You can't be seriously surely, gasheadnaboo? If Joe Jacobson was earning £90,000 a year, I dread to think what the others were on. What would the total wage bill have looked like, I wonder? I think I'm having one of my ''funny turns'' coming on.
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Post by jozer on Jun 8, 2014 18:20:58 GMT
I was told a few years ago that Curaton left because they wouldn't pay him £400 PW.
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Jun 8, 2014 20:24:52 GMT
When you consider losses were £800,000 last year, you could easily see someone like O'Toole taking £200,000 a year. I know for a fact Joe Jacobson was earning £90,000 a year whilst at the club. You can't be seriously surely, gasheadnaboo? If Joe Jacobson was earning £90,000 a year, I dread to think what the others were on. What would the total wage bill have looked like, I wonder? I think I'm having one of my ''funny turns'' coming on. £3.5 million was being paid to a squad of 32 around the time. www.bathchronicle.co.uk/Wage-pleas-major-hindrance-Higgs/story-11352989-detail/story.html
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2014 20:35:02 GMT
People don't realize just how much players earn, even in non-league. I had some correspondence recently with someone with his finger on the pulse in non-league and he said this:
Spalding who just got promoted from the UCL and on crowds of 100+ pay some of the players as much as £350+ (Jones from G Trinity for example) Forget £1000 a week for some in the conference prem, many players in conf North and South would be getting that and loads would be on £6/£700 a week.
Stefan Moore was mentioned who at St Neots when previously enjoying a **** ****** with their sugar daddy paid a £15K transfer fee for him and allegedly rewarded him with a weekly wage of £900/1000 a week. It was mentioned recently though that the offer he was given by Brackley mid way through last season was his best ever outside his league career, and they have several players on well over £500 a week on crowds of about 250/350.
Harrogate too, again with a sugar daddy pay obscene wages in relation to the crowds they attract. Walshaw a very decent player is reported to be getting a huge increase on his already decent wages at Altrincham. Some of the Worksop players in the NPL are, or were beefore the money man withdrew his funding a couple of weeks ago being paid £500, it is utter madness.
Chesham were allegedly paying £400+ a week for Dillon and Roberts, Hemel were paying more than that Mackie, the NL world has gone mad. Dunstable were gave out two year contracts for ex conf players in the Calor central on crowds of less than 150 and the list goes on.
Half way through the season, and only because he knew the manager well Rik left Stamford to go to Arlsey who were paying him nearly £400 a week, after a month where he didn't start, he simply said sod this, I wont to play, sod the money and he went back to Stamford for half that amount, but his attitude towards money is the exception.
Eastleigh one of your biggest rivals this year vare allegedly now offering two year deals to some recruits approaching the £2500 a week, how the f*** is that sustainable. If their backer disappears, the players either unilaterally agree to terminate their contracts or the club will face administration and lets not mention Forest Green and especially Luton whose wages bill must be quite scary though ast least with the latter they could justify it
Whilst four figure wages aren't the norm in the top end of the conf prem it is quite common place.
Tamworth, who were really poor gave a £400 a week contract to a 18,19 year old centre half who failed at Corby and Boston then never played him. Wrexham paid we are told about a £6000 transfer fee for Durell from Hednesford and an accompanying wage of about £800 a week then (tho I guess he could be injured never played him) Halifax offered two five figure transfer requests for Ricky before the deadline with about eight games left in the season.....why would you do that.
Desperation, madness or the norm?
Ferriby in the conf North, though again with great backing from former Hull Directors are no more than a village team though hospitable, its horrible place to visit, just not a football club in my eyes average crowd probably less than 300 yet pay many of their many of their players in excess of £600, how is that possible?
We cant all be models of fiscal propriety like Maidstone or FC United, but hey conference glory will not come cheaply Wes.
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Post by brizzle on Jun 9, 2014 14:33:23 GMT
Many thanks for the link gasheadnaboo, I don't know whether to laugh or cry after reading the story. On balance I think it would have to be cry, all that money expended, and for what eh? Conference League football next season, and the prospect of a prolonged struggle to even get back into the Football League. It's at times like these that I reflect on the times last season when quite a few posters on here were suggesting that it might be a good thing if the club were to be relegated for a few seasons. Well, here we are then, and I still fail to see the merit in that particular argument. Still returning to the burning issue of money, it does appear that the club have finally turned away from ''big name'' signings, and are encouraging the manager to recruit lean and hungry players. I saw a statement recently that BRFC would not be paying any transfer fees for players in this close season. 'Bout time too. Our big name signings are all elsewhere counting their bundles of cash that they have negotiated (through their agents, of course) to leave the club. It's a bit cock-eyed don't you think, when they were brought here to improve the team, and we ended up paying 'em to leave.
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Post by mancgas has left the building on Jun 9, 2014 14:44:23 GMT
When you consider losses were £800,000 last year, you could easily see someone like O'Toole taking £200,000 a year. I know for a fact Joe Jacobson was earning £90,000 a year whilst at the club. It's crazy money for 4th division isn't it? Well, I think we all know where the buck (?!?) stops on this issue. Over to you Nicholas .......... 5 years ago the official accounts showed our AVERAGE salary was over £2000 a week. Club 'officials' openly used O'Tooles £4000 a week salary as evidence of our ambition, when challenged about lack of signings, and couldnt get why we thought this an absolute madness vs signing 2 solids pro's for the same money and ensuring squad had coverage not 3-4 'super' stars
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2014 14:51:59 GMT
Still returning to the burning issue of money, it does appear that the club have finally turned away from ''big name'' signings, and are encouraging the manager to recruit lean and hungry players. I saw a statement recently that BRFC would not be paying any transfer fees for players in this close season. 'Bout time too. Our big name signings are all elsewhere counting their bundles of cash that they have negotiated (through their agents, of course) to leave the club. It's a bit cock-eyed don't you think, when they were brought here to improve the team, and we ended up paying 'em to leave. Higgs' comments don't seem to have changed all that much with him still banging on about "big budgets." And people wonder why we pay over the odds... On McGhee..."I think Mark will have a budget that is one of the best in League Two. It's not necessarily the highest but it will be in that top group of clubs – as it was last year." And now on Clarke: "Darrell will have a very good budget for the Conference. I imagine it will be one of the highest."
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Post by brizzle on Jun 9, 2014 15:14:53 GMT
Still returning to the burning issue of money, it does appear that the club have finally turned away from ''big name'' signings, and are encouraging the manager to recruit lean and hungry players. I saw a statement recently that BRFC would not be paying any transfer fees for players in this close season. 'Bout time too. Our big name signings are all elsewhere counting their bundles of cash that they have negotiated (through their agents, of course) to leave the club. It's a bit cock-eyed don't you think, when they were brought here to improve the team, and we ended up paying 'em to leave. Higgs' comments don't seem to have changed all that much with him still banging on about "big budgets." And people wonder why we pay over the odds... On McGhee..."I think Mark will have a budget that is one of the best in League Two. It's not necessarily the highest but it will be in that top group of clubs – as it was last year." And now on Clarke: "Darrell will have a very good budget for the Conference. I imagine it will be one of the highest." I agree with you Wes, that it's not necessarily the wisest thing in the world to let everyone and his dog know the rough parameters of the clubs transfer budget. Best to hold your cards close to your chest, I would have thought. But then again, you can't teach your granny to suck eggs can you?
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Post by a more piratey game on Jun 9, 2014 23:34:27 GMT
Many thanks for the link gasheadnaboo, I don't know whether to laugh or cry after reading the story. I think its about £40.5m less than 82 have spent tho - a tiny sliver of a smidgeon of a soupcon of consolation
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