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Post by frenchgashead on Oct 10, 2014 13:08:05 GMT
This is the main part of the report in the Guardian today on Tesco in Margate. It certainly casts more doubt over the supermarkets and our chance of getting the UWE:
"Tesco has ditched plans to build a huge superstore on Margate’s seafront in the latest sign of the troubled supermarket’s retreat from aggressive expansion.
Campaigners have lobbied hard to prevent Tesco opening the store in Kent. Last year the development was approved by communities secretary Eric Pickles, and a judicial review was pending to rule on whether planning permission for the scheme was properly considered ahead of that approval. However, the ailing supermarket group has now written to the site’s landlord, Freshwater Developments, to terminate its contract to operate the 82,000sq ft store.
Tesco, which has two smaller stores in Margate, said its change of plan was the result of shoppers switching from large stores towards neighbourhood outlets and the internet. “We are reducing the number of large stores we open each year as a result of changing customer shopping habits. After careful consideration we have therefore decided not to pursue a new large store in Margate,” a spokesman said.
The latest retreat comes after Tesco mothballed two new supermarkets in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, and Immingham, Lincolnshire, as it reassesses its strategy under new chief executive Dave Lewis."
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Post by mancgas has left the building on Oct 10, 2014 13:20:09 GMT
They've obviously got problems - having ordered a £31 million private jet to add to their hanger (which was recently delivered) they decided to sell the other 5 (plus the new one) - to raise around £120 million (a massive loss).
Angry Shareholders are asking why they needed private jets rather than slumming it in business/first class at a much lower cost when visiting the stores in Poland etc......
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Post by timothyq on Oct 10, 2014 13:28:30 GMT
The issue is that they are too big and entrenched to move in the market. They can't change to compete with Lidl because they will be perceived as downmarket and lose customers to Waitrose and they can't change to compete with Waitrose for the opposite reason.
If we, as Gasheads, are committed to this stadium build going ahead the solution isn't to protest against Sainsbury's but to make Bris the best possible place for Sainsbury's to build a new store, we should be encouraging fans to shop at Sainsbury's, setting up stands in the centre promoting Sainsbury's and the investment they may still make in the local community. We could even go for an American theme near a Sainsbury's petrol station, sawdust, cowboy hats etc with a sign saying 'get you GAS at Sainsbury's'. If nothing else it will be a great laugh and will be preferable to any sort of boycott or protest which only reinforces the belief that a new store would not be profitable.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Oct 10, 2014 14:18:37 GMT
The issue is that they are too big and entrenched to move in the market. They can't change to compete with Lidl because they will be perceived as downmarket and lose customers to Waitrose and they can't change to compete with Waitrose for the opposite reason. If we, as Gasheads, are committed to this stadium build going ahead the solution isn't to protest against Sainsbury's but to make Bris the best possible place for Sainsbury's to build a new store, we should be encouraging fans to shop at Sainsbury's, setting up stands in the centre promoting Sainsbury's and the investment they may still make in the local community. We could even go for an American theme near a Sainsbury's petrol station, sawdust, cowboy hats etc with a sign saying 'get you GAS at Sainsbury's'. If nothing else it will be a great laugh and will be preferable to any sort of boycott or protest which only reinforces the belief that a new store would not be profitable. Thank you timothyq - this is the first response anyone has got from Sainsbury's PR on the matter
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 10, 2014 14:35:23 GMT
These things go in cycles. A few years back M&S closed all their Mainland European stores. Then a new CEO comes in and announces that in fact, the closure of the stores was the worst possible thing they could have done. M&S are now in the process of re-opening stores across Europe ! Tesco etc have grown so much over the last 10-15 years. Use Tesco as an example. They now offer much more than they did traditionally. Now you can get house/car insurance and loads of other stuff. I expect them to contract and go back to their core business, which is being a supermarket selling food ! They'll trim off a lot of the 'extras'.
The bottom line is that people still have to buy food. There is a growing population, so there is a growing market ! The big supermarkets will contract their services, reduce their costs and go back to what they do best, thereby increasing profits..........and expand again !
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Post by lulworthgas on Oct 10, 2014 14:36:52 GMT
www.wisbechstandard.co.uk/news/exclusive_tesco_mothball_22_million_chatteris_store_just_weeks_before_it_was_due_to_open_with_prospect_of_250_jobs_1_377812Just read this about the charterris store. It's built but trsco refuse to open it, instead boarding it up. A clear indication that the big boys just don't want these big stores anymore. Even after redirecting a river, building underpasses and putting in new islands on the A road adjacent the store. You can bet that if they had the chance to pull out before they purchased the land, they would have, especially as the locals didn't want them there in the first place. I hope we have sainsburies where we want them come November? Otherwise there will be some seriously peed gasheads knocking about bristol. Here's a snippet from the local councillor “I’m absolutely furious,” she said. “For some reason I was the first to be notified. I checked with the Chatteris Town Council clerk and she had not been told and Fenland District Council knew nothing about it either. “They’ve moved the river, put the underpass in and put in that disgusting roundabout which causes major hold ups because it is not suitable for heavy goods vehicles.” Cllr Newell added: “We’ve had no end of complaints about it. “There was a 40 minute hold up there when a lorry got stuck. “Now, they are just going to board up the site and leave it. What about the underpass? That could attract vandals. And there was the promise of all those jobs, which was a lot of lies.”
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Post by timothyq on Oct 10, 2014 14:47:30 GMT
The issue is that they are too big and entrenched to move in the market. They can't change to compete with Lidl because they will be perceived as downmarket and lose customers to Waitrose and they can't change to compete with Waitrose for the opposite reason. If we, as Gasheads, are committed to this stadium build going ahead the solution isn't to protest against Sainsbury's but to make Bris the best possible place for Sainsbury's to build a new store, we should be encouraging fans to shop at Sainsbury's, setting up stands in the centre promoting Sainsbury's and the investment they may still make in the local community. We could even go for an American theme near a Sainsbury's petrol station, sawdust, cowboy hats etc with a sign saying 'get you GAS at Sainsbury's'. If nothing else it will be a great laugh and will be preferable to any sort of boycott or protest which only reinforces the belief that a new store would not be profitable. Thank you timothyq - this is the first response anyone has got from Sainsbury's PR on the matter Very funny Curly, but still not exactly an argument for this being a bad idea!
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Post by warwickgas on Oct 10, 2014 15:52:23 GMT
Spoke to someone who works at Sainsbury earlier on. He said they are partnering with the Scandinavian discount supermarket group Netto. Allegedly 15 Sainsbury sites are being branded Netto to compete locally with Lidl and Aldi. I cling to the wreckage of what was the UWE plan in the hope the Horfield store is proceeding under a new label !
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Post by gas2 on Oct 17, 2014 14:14:16 GMT
on facebook yesterday someone put a story from the London evening standard asking Sainsbury's staff to encourage the shoppers to spend more money
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 14:32:27 GMT
on facebook yesterday someone put a story from the London evening standard asking Sainsbury's staff to encourage the shoppers to spend more money In one store they accidentally put up a banner asking members of staff to cream customers for another 50p. It was meant to be put up behind the scenes but was put up in the store.
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Post by dan on Oct 17, 2014 14:40:40 GMT
on facebook yesterday someone put a story from the London evening standard asking Sainsbury's staff to encourage the shoppers to spend more money In one store they accidentally put up a banner asking members of staff to cream customers for another 50p. It was meant to be put up behind the scenes but was put up in the store.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 14:44:22 GMT
In one store they accidentally put up a banner asking members of staff to cream customers for another 50p. It was meant to be put up behind the scenes but was put up in the store. Cheers Dan.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 14:51:15 GMT
Pretty standard retail practice, I would think. Only newsworthy because some belter put it in the shop window!
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 17, 2014 15:16:15 GMT
Daily Mail suggests the latest stockmarket rumour is M&S joining forces in a merger/take over with Sainsbury's!!
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Post by BS11Gas on Oct 17, 2014 15:50:41 GMT
Pretty standard retail practice, I would think. Only newsworthy because some belter put it in the shop window! I've worked in a supermarket (not Sainsbury's) for the past 10 years and yes this sort of thing is pretty common. Ours were more along the lines of "Sell more of new product than any of store in the region and win money to spend in store" though. As you say, it's only newsworthy because it was displayed in public as opposed to staff areas.
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Post by robblue on Oct 17, 2014 15:55:59 GMT
This is the main part of the report in the Guardian today on Tesco in Margate. It certainly casts more doubt over the supermarkets and our chance of getting the UWE: "Tesco has ditched plans to build a huge superstore on Margate’s seafront in the latest sign of the troubled supermarket’s retreat from aggressive expansion. Campaigners have lobbied hard to prevent Tesco opening the store in Kent. Last year the development was approved by communities secretary Eric Pickles, and a judicial review was pending to rule on whether planning permission for the scheme was properly considered ahead of that approval. However, the ailing supermarket group has now written to the site’s landlord, Freshwater Developments, to terminate its contract to operate the 82,000sq ft store. Tesco, which has two smaller stores in Margate, said its change of plan was the result of shoppers switching from large stores towards neighbourhood outlets and the internet. “We are reducing the number of large stores we open each year as a result of changing customer shopping habits. After careful consideration we have therefore decided not to pursue a new large store in Margate,” a spokesman said. The latest retreat comes after Tesco mothballed two new supermarkets in Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, and Immingham, Lincolnshire, as it reassesses its strategy under new chief executive Dave Lewis." Its happening because nick said so This is the interview on made in bristol.
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