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Post by Qatar Gas on Sept 10, 2014 4:45:47 GMT
Just like last season, the difference between our home and away form is staggering.
We have played and beaten some of the top teams in this league and home and remain unbeaten but are comfortably losing to part time teams away from home!
The management has to get to the bottom of this issue and work out why we have been so bad away from home the last few seasons. It got us relegated last year and hasnt got any better since. The home form will keep us mid table but until we start winning away games we wont be going anywhere. |
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Sept 10, 2014 5:02:53 GMT
I'm by no meens using this as an excuse, but we were warned that we are the Man Utd of non-league and as a result every team will be trying their hardest to beat us the most. It's going to be like playing in 23 cup finals something were going to have to overcome.
IMO come the middle of winter when the part-timers will have players injured, suspended & working etc etc I'm sure we will find it easier to win these games.
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Post by nit3owl64 on Sept 10, 2014 8:02:42 GMT
I'm by no meens using this as an excuse, but we were warned that we are the Man Utd of non-league and as a result every team will be trying their hardest to beat us the most. It's going to be like playing in 23 cup finals something were going to have to overcome. IMO come the middle of winter when the part-timers will have players injured, suspended & working etc etc I'm sure we will find it easier to win these games. But manure are just that !  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 8:32:00 GMT
Teams seemingly set up to draw at the Mem which, allows us to get at teams a bit. Home form may be good but we've not really dominated a game yet. We need to be more clinical at home and put teams to the sword. That said it's been a pleasing start to Conference life at the Mem.
Away from home we seem to expect the same, however teams set up to beat us. We throw caution to the wind and end up getting caught (both goals on Saturday came from breaks). Away from home I'd always start Sinclair and ask him to sit in midfield. When a fullback or centrehalf goes, he should go deeper again covering for them. He's got the legs if Rovers are done on the break, carries the ball well and can play with both feet. Sure he's not the most gifted player in the world but away from home and as he showed last night he can be an effective water carrier.
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Post by Brockworth Gas on Sept 10, 2014 8:58:42 GMT
I concur with a lot of the above posts. It is about how we are setting up and DC needs to sort that as a priority and stop going on about this fear factor... We play ok at home in front of the baying crowds of 5 - 7,000. We shouldn't be fearful in front of a thousand at Braintree or Altrincham. But this has been a feature for years now - when did we last beat an Accrington or Bury or Rochdale away? if you keep on in interviews about the players being fearful I'm sure you can convince them that's the problem - but it doesn't make sense to me
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Sept 10, 2014 9:19:56 GMT
The difference between our home and away form over the past few seasons is staggering.
As I said on different post yesterday, we have nothing to fear at home. We may need to break a few teams down, but we should be looking to win (or at least take a point) from every game we play at the Mem.
It's the away form. To start with we need to get that away win monkey off our back starting this saturday. One thing Trolls was often good at (and criticised for at times!) was grinding out results away from home. I feel we need one of those types of performances. It might not be pretty, but it will feel bloody good to get those first three away points under our belt.
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Post by mehewmagic on Sept 10, 2014 9:34:05 GMT
I'm by no meens using this as an excuse, but we were warned that we are the Man Utd of non-league and as a result every team will be trying their hardest to beat us the most. It's going to be like playing in 23 cup finals something were going to have to overcome. IMO come the middle of winter when the part-timers will have players injured, suspended & working etc etc I'm sure we will find it easier to win these games. one of the problems though is that due to the FA Trophy the Conference squeeze a lot of midweek games in before the winter hits. not sure we can wait that long for them to tire out etc. |
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Post by mehewmagic on Sept 10, 2014 9:37:34 GMT
I did the away stats for my latest blog haven't done the home stats -------------------------------- After yet another weak away defeat, where 565 loyal Gasheads deserved far better for their efforts, you really do have to wonder if there is something wrong with our preparation for away fixtures, or more simply something amiss with our psychology of playing away from home. Last season we had the worst away record in the league, with just 14 points taken from a possible 69 on offer. We also failed to score in 43% of matches and had the lowest scoring attack in the league. This is a problem that has been going on for longer than just a sickening relegation season though. Previous seasons were not massively better. Even going back to the 2009/10 season, a seemingly benign mid-table finish in League One hid a poor tally of 20 points on the road. 2010/11 brought 20 again, 2011/12 gave us 21, and 2012/13 saw a positively nosebleed inducing 23 points. All in all this adds up to a pathetic 99 away points out of the last 119 away games, with a staggering goal difference of minus 80 goals. Decent home form will usually keep you in with a vague chance of the play-offs, but atrocious away form will scupper that. And a word of warning to those happy to write off away performances as long as you keep the home crowds happy. Gillingham got relegated from League One in the 2009/10 season despite earning 44 points at the Priestfield Stadium. A derisory six away points saw them go down on goal difference. Read more at www.bristolpost.co.uk/BRISTOL-ROVERS-BLOG-G-Gas-36-Steps/story-22899404-detail/story.html#GtBkREbEQZqszyp7.99 |
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Post by mehewmagic on Sept 10, 2014 9:41:01 GMT
Teams seemingly set up to draw at the Mem which, allows us to get at teams a bit. Home form may be good but we've not really dominated a game yet. We need to be more clinical at home and put teams to the sword. That said it's been a pleasing start to Conference life at the Mem. Away from home we seem to expect the same, however teams set up to beat us. We throw caution to the wind and end up getting caught (both goals on Saturday came from breaks). Away from home I'd always start Sinclair and ask him to sit in midfield. When a fullback or centrehalf goes, he should go deeper again covering for them. He's got the legs if Rovers are done on the break, carries the ball well and can play with both feet. Sure he's not the most gifted player in the world but away from home and as he showed last night he can be an effective water carrier. good analysis I fail to see why he's been on the bench a lot of this season. Needs to tidy up his tackling though I'd drink from his cup. |
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Post by brizzle on Sept 10, 2014 11:36:23 GMT
Teams seemingly set up to draw at the Mem which, allows us to get at teams a bit. Home form may be good but we've not really dominated a game yet. We need to be more clinical at home and put teams to the sword. That said it's been a pleasing start to Conference life at the Mem. Away from home we seem to expect the same, however teams set up to beat us. We throw caution to the wind and end up getting caught (both goals on Saturday came from breaks). Away from home I'd always start Sinclair and ask him to sit in midfield. When a fullback or centrehalf goes, he should go deeper again covering for them. He's got the legs if Rovers are done on the break, carries the ball well and can play with both feet. Sure he's not the most gifted player in the world but away from home and as he showed last night he can be an effective water carrier. Every team in the land needs at least one, and we used to have them in abundance. Players with character and a bit of ''fight'' in them, players like Vaughan Jones and Ian Holloway are the obvious stand-out candidates here. Players that when we go a goal down, roll up their sleeves and respond positively. Pretty players are fine, nothing wrong with them at all, but sometimes you need motivators and grafters . . . and at the moment we definitely do need a couple at least. By the way, good post chewbacca. I'd give you the ''round of applause'' smilie, but it appears to have gone AWOL.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 11:43:56 GMT
I think after Sinclair received a red card Clarke was looking for away to get him back into the side without upsetting the applecart. Braintree was exactly that. Sinclair at the base of midfield allows the more attacking players to kick on as well as defenders (Lee Brown was often underlapped by Tom Parkes down the left last night).
Maybe I'm a bit biased because I do love Stuart but every machine needs small cogs to do work to get the big cogs moving.
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Post by droitwichgas on Sept 10, 2014 12:03:10 GMT
DC could hardly drop OC after his good performances against FGR & Halifax, although I can see him struggling to get his place back now. Not sure why the newcommers are going to be fearful, surely only Parkes doesn't appreciate what non-league football is all about of the out field players??
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 12:20:26 GMT
DC could hardly drop OC after his good performances against FGR & Halifax, although I can see him struggling to get his place back now. Not sure why the newcommers are going to be fearful, surely only Parkes doesn't appreciate what non-league football is all about of the out field players?? That's why I said DC needed an excuse. |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Sept 11, 2014 4:51:16 GMT
I did the away stats for my latest blog haven't done the home stats -------------------------------- After yet another weak away defeat, where 565 loyal Gasheads deserved far better for their efforts, you really do have to wonder if there is something wrong with our preparation for away fixtures, or more simply something amiss with our psychology of playing away from home. Last season we had the worst away record in the league, with just 14 points taken from a possible 69 on offer. We also failed to score in 43% of matches and had the lowest scoring attack in the league. This is a problem that has been going on for longer than just a sickening relegation season though. Previous seasons were not massively better. Even going back to the 2009/10 season, a seemingly benign mid-table finish in League One hid a poor tally of 20 points on the road. 2010/11 brought 20 again, 2011/12 gave us 21, and 2012/13 saw a positively nosebleed inducing 23 points. All in all this adds up to a pathetic 99 away points out of the last 119 away games, with a staggering goal difference of minus 80 goals. Decent home form will usually keep you in with a vague chance of the play-offs, but atrocious away form will scupper that. And a word of warning to those happy to write off away performances as long as you keep the home crowds happy. Gillingham got relegated from League One in the 2009/10 season despite earning 44 points at the Priestfield Stadium. A derisory six away points saw them go down on goal difference. Read more at www.bristolpost.co.uk/BRISTOL-ROVERS-BLOG-G-Gas-36-Steps/story-22899404-detail/story.html#GtBkREbEQZqszyp7.99Wow, that really is incredible to see how bad we have been over the last few years away from home. So we cant just blame our current manager for this! Something needs to be looked at. We might do well at home but if we cannot get more than 20 points away then we will finish mid table. |
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Post by markwind on Sept 11, 2014 5:54:31 GMT
I did the away stats for my latest blog haven't done the home stats -------------------------------- After yet another weak away defeat, where 565 loyal Gasheads deserved far better for their efforts, you really do have to wonder if there is something wrong with our preparation for away fixtures, or more simply something amiss with our psychology of playing away from home. Last season we had the worst away record in the league, with just 14 points taken from a possible 69 on offer. We also failed to score in 43% of matches and had the lowest scoring attack in the league. This is a problem that has been going on for longer than just a sickening relegation season though. Previous seasons were not massively better. Even going back to the 2009/10 season, a seemingly benign mid-table finish in League One hid a poor tally of 20 points on the road. 2010/11 brought 20 again, 2011/12 gave us 21, and 2012/13 saw a positively nosebleed inducing 23 points. All in all this adds up to a pathetic 99 away points out of the last 119 away games, with a staggering goal difference of minus 80 goals. Decent home form will usually keep you in with a vague chance of the play-offs, but atrocious away form will scupper that. And a word of warning to those happy to write off away performances as long as you keep the home crowds happy. Gillingham got relegated from League One in the 2009/10 season despite earning 44 points at the Priestfield Stadium. A derisory six away points saw them go down on goal difference. Read more at www.bristolpost.co.uk/BRISTOL-ROVERS-BLOG-G-Gas-36-Steps/story-22899404-detail/story.html#GtBkREbEQZqszyp7.99These are some pretty staggering figures! It does make you wonder whether we should try 'parking the bus' sometime! We've all seen a team nick a win at the Mem by doing the same, and you'd like to think that we'd pick up a fair few draws on the way. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 15:21:47 GMT
First away win will be v Lincoln this weekend!!!
Crosses fingers, toes and anything else that will cross.
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Sept 11, 2014 15:26:03 GMT
First away win will be v Lincoln this weekend!!! Crosses fingers, toes and anything else that will cross. Careful, thats a positive post. It's well known, positive post's are not welcome on here. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 22:23:49 GMT
i might be proved wrong but i really believe our away form will improve,i hope we can field the same team as wrexham on saturday which will give us a good chance of getting a result
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Post by stig-of-the-gas on Sept 13, 2014 9:25:10 GMT
The team travelled up last night and stayed over whereas previously we have been doing day trips.
Hopefully a different approach will give a different result.
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Post by GasHeadGaz on Sept 13, 2014 9:36:54 GMT
The team travelled up last night and stayed over whereas previously we have been doing day trips. Hopefully a different approach will give a different result. Hopefully like you say a different approach will see a different result. If we could win today, we then have 3 very winnable games coming up. Things might start to look a hell of a lot better sitting the play-offs after our indifferent start. I'm going for a win by at-least 2 goals...  Were due a good win away from home. |
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Were due a good win away from home.