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Post by baselswh on May 13, 2024 12:34:50 GMT
Migrant Crime League Tables are now seriously being discussed as regular data for Britons to read.Other countries allow their citizens to see these statistics,eg Denmark.
I would say people have the right to see what crimes immigrants are committing and how much compared to their percentage of the countrys population.
Do our Police have these statistics?
Vital stuff.
Apparently our 'neutral' Civil Service are kicking up a fuss about 'getting these statistics together' ( that may already be known ) and releasing them
Our 'servants of democracy' yet again,have ideas above their station.
This could be an opportunity to sack those CSs that think they are MPs.They must do as they are told.Full stop.
"Drain the swamp" as President Trump use to say.
Do you think Migrant Crime League Tables ought to be readily available for Britons to read?
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Post by oldie on May 13, 2024 15:16:27 GMT
Migrant Crime League Tables are now seriously being discussed as regular data for Britons to read.Other countries allow their citizens to see these statistics,eg Denmark. I would say people have the right to see what crimes immigrants are committing and how much compared to their percentage of the countrys population. Do our Police have these statistics? Vital stuff. Apparently our 'neutral' Civil Service are kicking up a fuss about 'getting these statistics together' ( that may already be known ) and releasing them Our 'servants of democracy' yet again,have ideas above their station. This could be an opportunity to sack those CSs that think they are MPs.They must do as they are told.Full stop. "Drain the swamp" as President Trump use to say. Do you think Migrant Crime League Tables ought to be readily available for Britons to read? Only if the readers are numerate enough to interpret them. |
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Post by baselswh on May 13, 2024 17:01:20 GMT
Migrant Crime League Tables are now seriously being discussed as regular data for Britons to read.Other countries allow their citizens to see these statistics,eg Denmark. I would say people have the right to see what crimes immigrants are committing and how much compared to their percentage of the countrys population. Do our Police have these statistics? Vital stuff. Apparently our 'neutral' Civil Service are kicking up a fuss about 'getting these statistics together' ( that may already be known ) and releasing them Our 'servants of democracy' yet again,have ideas above their station. This could be an opportunity to sack those CSs that think they are MPs.They must do as they are told.Full stop. "Drain the swamp" as President Trump use to say. Do you think Migrant Crime League Tables ought to be readily available for Britons to read? Only if the readers are numerate enough to interpret them. Begrudging and sarcastic acceptance from Oldie. |
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Post by eppinggas on May 16, 2024 8:21:18 GMT
GB News has been there with this - a freedom of information was requested. It has been denied.
Because effectively the Govt wants to suppress the truth.
It's not part of the narrative. All immigration is good, any evidence to suggest the contrary will be buried.
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Post by oldie on May 16, 2024 8:23:33 GMT
GB News has been there with this - a freedom of information was requested. It has been denied. Because effectively the Govt wants to suppress the truth. It's not part of the narrative. All immigration is good, any evidence to suggest the contrary will be buried. In your opinion and manifestly untrue. |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 16, 2024 9:47:23 GMT
Well, Denmark does produce these figures and they show that migrants are 40% more likely to be convicted of a crime than a Danish citizen. Migrants from Kuwait, Tunisia, Lebanon and Somalia are more likely to commit crimes than Danish citizens.
Just saying.
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Post by oldie on May 16, 2024 10:27:34 GMT
Well, Denmark does produce these figures and they show that migrants are 40% more likely to be convicted of a crime than a Danish citizen. Migrants from Kuwait, Tunisia, Lebanon and Somalia are more likely to commit crimes than Danish citizens. Just saying. Source? |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 16, 2024 10:34:58 GMT
Well, Denmark does produce these figures and they show that migrants are 40% more likely to be convicted of a crime than a Danish citizen. Migrants from Kuwait, Tunisia, Lebanon and Somalia are more likely to commit crimes than Danish citizens. Just saying. Source? There are many sources out there. Just search for Denmark migrant crime rate. "Violent Crime Convictions Having summarized the results of the official government financial analysis, I now append with my own analysis on the topic of immigration and crime. An official Danish report is available to be read, however it is written in Danish and is less comprehensive than my analysis in some aspects2. According to Danmarks Statistik, there were 5,921 violent crime convictions in 2021, of which 71% (4,193) were committed by people of Danish origin and 29% (1,728) by immigrants and their descendants. In 2021, immigrants and their descendants represented 14% (817,438) and people of Danish origin 86% (5,022,607) of the total population of 5,840,045. Thus immigrants and descendants are overrepresented in violent crime convictions, being 14% of the population and constituting 29% of the violent crime convictions. This translates into immigrants and descendants having 2.5 times higher conviction rates than natives. However, like financial contributions, convictions also exhibit great heterogeneity. Western immigrants and descendants were 5.0% of the population and accounted for just 3.8% of the nation’s violent crime convictions. Non-Western immigrants and descendants were 8.9% of the population and accounted for 25.4% of the nation’s violent crime convictions. Homicide is very uncommon in Denmark, but we see a similar pattern for homicide convictions. For rape convictions, the pattern is even stronger. The results for the period 2010-2021 can be seen in the figure below. For each group, it shows the population share and the share of total violent crime convictions, as well as shares of specific types of violent crime convictions, that can be attributed to each group." Danish statistics |
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Post by baselswh on May 16, 2024 12:11:29 GMT
There are many sources out there. Just search for Denmark migrant crime rate. "Violent Crime Convictions Having summarized the results of the official government financial analysis, I now append with my own analysis on the topic of immigration and crime. An official Danish report is available to be read, however it is written in Danish and is less comprehensive than my analysis in some aspects2. According to Danmarks Statistik, there were 5,921 violent crime convictions in 2021, of which 71% (4,193) were committed by people of Danish origin and 29% (1,728) by immigrants and their descendants. In 2021, immigrants and their descendants represented 14% (817,438) and people of Danish origin 86% (5,022,607) of the total population of 5,840,045. Thus immigrants and descendants are overrepresented in violent crime convictions, being 14% of the population and constituting 29% of the violent crime convictions. This translates into immigrants and descendants having 2.5 times higher conviction rates than natives. However, like financial contributions, convictions also exhibit great heterogeneity. Western immigrants and descendants were 5.0% of the population and accounted for just 3.8% of the nation’s violent crime convictions. Non-Western immigrants and descendants were 8.9% of the population and accounted for 25.4% of the nation’s violent crime convictions. Homicide is very uncommon in Denmark, but we see a similar pattern for homicide convictions. For rape convictions, the pattern is even stronger. The results for the period 2010-2021 can be seen in the figure below. For each group, it shows the population share and the share of total violent crime convictions, as well as shares of specific types of violent crime convictions, that can be attributed to each group." Danish statistics"Imported crimewave". These Danish statistical facts would probably be at least as bad in the UK. Maybe the immigrant criminals were just having abit of fun,before becoming Doctors,Lawyers,Astronauts etc. Ah!Cultural enrichment. |
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Post by eppinggas on May 16, 2024 14:21:49 GMT
Well, Denmark does produce these figures and they show that migrants are 40% more likely to be convicted of a crime than a Danish citizen. Migrants from Kuwait, Tunisia, Lebanon and Somalia are more likely to commit crimes than Danish citizens. Just saying. "Yeah - but you can prove anything with facts" Copyright Stewart Lee. Ironically a far left comedian. |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 21, 2024 7:41:01 GMT
So, what are these migrant stats showing in Swede?
"According to official figures from the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå), the number of fatalities a year per million from gun violence is more than double the European average.
In 2017, there were 281 shootings in Sweden and by 2022 that number had grown to 391, 62 of which were fatal. According to the Office for National Statistics, in the UK there were 28 people killed by shooting in the year ending March 2022.
That means the Swedish rate of death by shooting was more than twice that of the UK, despite Sweden having a population less than a sixth the size.
Most startlingly, in 2022 the gun murder rate in Stockholm was around 30 times that of London, despite having a population of less than a million.
A research paper published in 2020 shows a link between the sharp uptick in crime and the marked increase in immigration into the country.
He found that in 2017, 58 percent of those “suspected of crime on reasonable grounds” had migrated to Sweden. However for murder, attempted murder and manslaughter the figures swelled to 73 percent. The corresponding data for robbery was 70 percent.
The 60-year-old explained: “Even though most migrants are law-abiding people… still the likelihood of a migrant - especially from the Middle East or Africa, especially below 50 years of age - committing a crime is much, much higher than for a Swedish person. These are just the facts.”
Quick to point out he was not a “populist” the academic, who has a PhD from the London School of Economics, noted: “This material is not political in the least and it’s just based on statistics.”
Indeed, his findings are supported by a study by Brå. According to the official statistics, between 2015 and 2018, the percentage of native Swedes born to Swedish parents suspected of committing crime was 3.2 percent. However, that figure rose to eight percent for people born abroad, and climbed to more than 10 percent for people born in Sweden to two foreign parents.
Mr Adamson’s claim regarding the overrepresentation of migrants from the Middle East and Africa was backed up by the Brå too, which found: “The proportions suspected of offences are greatest among those born in the regions: West Asia, Central Asia, and different regions in Africa.
Mr Adamson, troubled by the direction of travel he sees in his native country, with spiralling violence and deepening social cleavages, reflected that the cliched image of “Sweden as a happy paradise” is “waning”.
“People don’t even pick it up as an introductory remark in a conversation or in an article, which is interesting in itself isn’t it," he said.
“The right-wingers have responded and the general population has responded by running rightwards.”
Blaming unmanaged migration over a prolonged period, Mr Adamson lambasted the politicians that oversaw that policy as having “betrayed their own heritage”.
He added: “Certainly Sweden’s problem is that we have been dominated by an almost-religious idealisation of things that the elites in our country know very little about, namely foreign cultures.
“This is here, it is real and [yet] we want to think about happy things. We want to think about the Eurovision song contest - which also these days is not a happy thing, by the way.”
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Post by baselswh on May 21, 2024 8:52:17 GMT
So, what are these migrant stats showing in Swede? "According to official figures from the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå), the number of fatalities a year per million from gun violence is more than double the European average. In 2017, there were 281 shootings in Sweden and by 2022 that number had grown to 391, 62 of which were fatal. According to the Office for National Statistics, in the UK there were 28 people killed by shooting in the year ending March 2022. That means the Swedish rate of death by shooting was more than twice that of the UK, despite Sweden having a population less than a sixth the size. Most startlingly, in 2022 the gun murder rate in Stockholm was around 30 times that of London, despite having a population of less than a million. A research paper published in 2020 shows a link between the sharp uptick in crime and the marked increase in immigration into the country. He found that in 2017, 58 percent of those “suspected of crime on reasonable grounds” had migrated to Sweden. However for murder, attempted murder and manslaughter the figures swelled to 73 percent. The corresponding data for robbery was 70 percent. The 60-year-old explained: “Even though most migrants are law-abiding people… still the likelihood of a migrant - especially from the Middle East or Africa, especially below 50 years of age - committing a crime is much, much higher than for a Swedish person. These are just the facts.” Quick to point out he was not a “populist” the academic, who has a PhD from the London School of Economics, noted: “This material is not political in the least and it’s just based on statistics.” Indeed, his findings are supported by a study by Brå. According to the official statistics, between 2015 and 2018, the percentage of native Swedes born to Swedish parents suspected of committing crime was 3.2 percent. However, that figure rose to eight percent for people born abroad, and climbed to more than 10 percent for people born in Sweden to two foreign parents. Mr Adamson’s claim regarding the overrepresentation of migrants from the Middle East and Africa was backed up by the Brå too, which found: “The proportions suspected of offences are greatest among those born in the regions: West Asia, Central Asia, and different regions in Africa. Mr Adamson, troubled by the direction of travel he sees in his native country, with spiralling violence and deepening social cleavages, reflected that the cliched image of “Sweden as a happy paradise” is “waning”. “People don’t even pick it up as an introductory remark in a conversation or in an article, which is interesting in itself isn’t it," he said. “The right-wingers have responded and the general population has responded by running rightwards.” Blaming unmanaged migration over a prolonged period, Mr Adamson lambasted the politicians that oversaw that policy as having “betrayed their own heritage”. He added: “Certainly Sweden’s problem is that we have been dominated by an almost-religious idealisation of things that the elites in our country know very little about, namely foreign cultures. “This is here, it is real and [yet] we want to think about happy things. We want to think about the Eurovision song contest - which also these days is not a happy thing, by the way.” This is the kind of facts Britons ought to know about our imported crime wave. The Government,left wing media and globalists believe we have no right to know and that they know better. It's criminal in itself to hide such statistical facts. |
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Post by eppinggas on May 21, 2024 10:00:13 GMT
So, what are these migrant stats showing in Swede? "According to official figures from the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå), the number of fatalities a year per million from gun violence is more than double the European average. In 2017, there were 281 shootings in Sweden and by 2022 that number had grown to 391, 62 of which were fatal. According to the Office for National Statistics, in the UK there were 28 people killed by shooting in the year ending March 2022. That means the Swedish rate of death by shooting was more than twice that of the UK, despite Sweden having a population less than a sixth the size. Most startlingly, in 2022 the gun murder rate in Stockholm was around 30 times that of London, despite having a population of less than a million. A research paper published in 2020 shows a link between the sharp uptick in crime and the marked increase in immigration into the country. He found that in 2017, 58 percent of those “suspected of crime on reasonable grounds” had migrated to Sweden. However for murder, attempted murder and manslaughter the figures swelled to 73 percent. The corresponding data for robbery was 70 percent. The 60-year-old explained: “Even though most migrants are law-abiding people… still the likelihood of a migrant - especially from the Middle East or Africa, especially below 50 years of age - committing a crime is much, much higher than for a Swedish person. These are just the facts.” Quick to point out he was not a “populist” the academic, who has a PhD from the London School of Economics, noted: “This material is not political in the least and it’s just based on statistics.” Indeed, his findings are supported by a study by Brå. According to the official statistics, between 2015 and 2018, the percentage of native Swedes born to Swedish parents suspected of committing crime was 3.2 percent. However, that figure rose to eight percent for people born abroad, and climbed to more than 10 percent for people born in Sweden to two foreign parents. Mr Adamson’s claim regarding the overrepresentation of migrants from the Middle East and Africa was backed up by the Brå too, which found: “The proportions suspected of offences are greatest among those born in the regions: West Asia, Central Asia, and different regions in Africa. Mr Adamson, troubled by the direction of travel he sees in his native country, with spiralling violence and deepening social cleavages, reflected that the cliched image of “Sweden as a happy paradise” is “waning”. “People don’t even pick it up as an introductory remark in a conversation or in an article, which is interesting in itself isn’t it," he said. “The right-wingers have responded and the general population has responded by running rightwards.” Blaming unmanaged migration over a prolonged period, Mr Adamson lambasted the politicians that oversaw that policy as having “betrayed their own heritage”. He added: “Certainly Sweden’s problem is that we have been dominated by an almost-religious idealisation of things that the elites in our country know very little about, namely foreign cultures. “This is here, it is real and [yet] we want to think about happy things. We want to think about the Eurovision song contest - which also these days is not a happy thing, by the way.” "Yeah - but you can prove anything with facts" Copyright Stewart Lee. Ironically a far left comedian. |
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Post by oldie on May 21, 2024 11:28:43 GMT
So, what are these migrant stats showing in Swede? "According to official figures from the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå), the number of fatalities a year per million from gun violence is more than double the European average. In 2017, there were 281 shootings in Sweden and by 2022 that number had grown to 391, 62 of which were fatal. According to the Office for National Statistics, in the UK there were 28 people killed by shooting in the year ending March 2022. That means the Swedish rate of death by shooting was more than twice that of the UK, despite Sweden having a population less than a sixth the size. Most startlingly, in 2022 the gun murder rate in Stockholm was around 30 times that of London, despite having a population of less than a million. A research paper published in 2020 shows a link between the sharp uptick in crime and the marked increase in immigration into the country. He found that in 2017, 58 percent of those “suspected of crime on reasonable grounds” had migrated to Sweden. However for murder, attempted murder and manslaughter the figures swelled to 73 percent. The corresponding data for robbery was 70 percent. The 60-year-old explained: “Even though most migrants are law-abiding people… still the likelihood of a migrant - especially from the Middle East or Africa, especially below 50 years of age - committing a crime is much, much higher than for a Swedish person. These are just the facts.” Quick to point out he was not a “populist” the academic, who has a PhD from the London School of Economics, noted: “This material is not political in the least and it’s just based on statistics.” Indeed, his findings are supported by a study by Brå. According to the official statistics, between 2015 and 2018, the percentage of native Swedes born to Swedish parents suspected of committing crime was 3.2 percent. However, that figure rose to eight percent for people born abroad, and climbed to more than 10 percent for people born in Sweden to two foreign parents. Mr Adamson’s claim regarding the overrepresentation of migrants from the Middle East and Africa was backed up by the Brå too, which found: “The proportions suspected of offences are greatest among those born in the regions: West Asia, Central Asia, and different regions in Africa. Mr Adamson, troubled by the direction of travel he sees in his native country, with spiralling violence and deepening social cleavages, reflected that the cliched image of “Sweden as a happy paradise” is “waning”. “People don’t even pick it up as an introductory remark in a conversation or in an article, which is interesting in itself isn’t it," he said. “The right-wingers have responded and the general population has responded by running rightwards.” Blaming unmanaged migration over a prolonged period, Mr Adamson lambasted the politicians that oversaw that policy as having “betrayed their own heritage”. He added: “Certainly Sweden’s problem is that we have been dominated by an almost-religious idealisation of things that the elites in our country know very little about, namely foreign cultures. “This is here, it is real and [yet] we want to think about happy things. We want to think about the Eurovision song contest - which also these days is not a happy thing, by the way.” Made me laugh |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 21, 2024 13:09:45 GMT
So, what are these migrant stats showing in Swede? "According to official figures from the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå), the number of fatalities a year per million from gun violence is more than double the European average. In 2017, there were 281 shootings in Sweden and by 2022 that number had grown to 391, 62 of which were fatal. According to the Office for National Statistics, in the UK there were 28 people killed by shooting in the year ending March 2022. That means the Swedish rate of death by shooting was more than twice that of the UK, despite Sweden having a population less than a sixth the size. Most startlingly, in 2022 the gun murder rate in Stockholm was around 30 times that of London, despite having a population of less than a million. A research paper published in 2020 shows a link between the sharp uptick in crime and the marked increase in immigration into the country. He found that in 2017, 58 percent of those “suspected of crime on reasonable grounds” had migrated to Sweden. However for murder, attempted murder and manslaughter the figures swelled to 73 percent. The corresponding data for robbery was 70 percent. The 60-year-old explained: “Even though most migrants are law-abiding people… still the likelihood of a migrant - especially from the Middle East or Africa, especially below 50 years of age - committing a crime is much, much higher than for a Swedish person. These are just the facts.” Quick to point out he was not a “populist” the academic, who has a PhD from the London School of Economics, noted: “This material is not political in the least and it’s just based on statistics.” Indeed, his findings are supported by a study by Brå. According to the official statistics, between 2015 and 2018, the percentage of native Swedes born to Swedish parents suspected of committing crime was 3.2 percent. However, that figure rose to eight percent for people born abroad, and climbed to more than 10 percent for people born in Sweden to two foreign parents. Mr Adamson’s claim regarding the overrepresentation of migrants from the Middle East and Africa was backed up by the Brå too, which found: “The proportions suspected of offences are greatest among those born in the regions: West Asia, Central Asia, and different regions in Africa. Mr Adamson, troubled by the direction of travel he sees in his native country, with spiralling violence and deepening social cleavages, reflected that the cliched image of “Sweden as a happy paradise” is “waning”. “People don’t even pick it up as an introductory remark in a conversation or in an article, which is interesting in itself isn’t it," he said. “The right-wingers have responded and the general population has responded by running rightwards.” Blaming unmanaged migration over a prolonged period, Mr Adamson lambasted the politicians that oversaw that policy as having “betrayed their own heritage”. He added: “Certainly Sweden’s problem is that we have been dominated by an almost-religious idealisation of things that the elites in our country know very little about, namely foreign cultures. “This is here, it is real and [yet] we want to think about happy things. We want to think about the Eurovision song contest - which also these days is not a happy thing, by the way.” Made me laugh Why? |
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Post by oldie on May 21, 2024 13:29:09 GMT
So Sweden has 62 fatal shootings and the UK 28.
Sweden has 868,000 migrants living there the UK, 6,000,000.
Yet their rates for murder by firearms is more than double ours and the rates in their capital 30 times ours.
It proves the opposite of what you attempting to assert.
The real issue is firearm ownership.
In Sweden it's 23.1 persons per 100
In the UK 3.3 per 100.
But let's blame migrants, I mean it's obvious
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Post by trymer on May 23, 2024 16:11:43 GMT
Anyone who believes that the gang warfare on the streets of Stockholm,Malmo,etc is being fought with legally held weapons must be a simpleton,are the grenades and bombs being used legally held too ?....
The truth is that over the last 25 years Swedish cities have steadily become battlegrounds for gangs and these gangs are not made up of indigenous Swedes, however as a lot of the miscreants are between 15 and 20 they were probably born in Sweden so they arent migrants, 'new Swedes' is what some people over there call them.
This violence is the reason why the Sweden democrats have come from nowhere to become the second biggest party in the country,if anyone went to Sweden 25 years ago they will remember a liberal peaceful country,something seems to have changed that.
On the subject of the legally held weapons in Sweden most are shotguns and bolt action rifles held by farmers and people who hunt Deer etc.
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Post by oldie on May 23, 2024 16:14:37 GMT
Anyone who believes that the gang warfare on the streets of Stockholm,Malmo,etc is being fought with legally held weapons must be a simpleton,are the grenades and bombs being used legally held too ?.... The truth is that over the last 25 years Swedish cities have steadily become battlegrounds for gangs and these gangs are not made up of indigenous Swedes, however as a lot of the miscreants are between 15 and 20 they were probably born in Sweden so they arent migrants, 'new Swedes' is what some people over there call them. This violence is the reason why the Sweden democrats have come from nowhere to become the second biggest party in the country,if anyone went to Sweden 25 years ago they will remember a liberal peaceful country,something seems to have changed that. On the subject of the legally held weapons in Sweden most are shotguns and bolt action rifles held by farmers and people who hunt Deer etc. Other views ignoring the facts and making up unsubstantiated stories are available for those with constrained abilities in analysis |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 24, 2024 7:02:25 GMT
Anyone who believes that the gang warfare on the streets of Stockholm,Malmo,etc is being fought with legally held weapons must be a simpleton,are the grenades and bombs being used legally held too ?.... The truth is that over the last 25 years Swedish cities have steadily become battlegrounds for gangs and these gangs are not made up of indigenous Swedes, however as a lot of the miscreants are between 15 and 20 they were probably born in Sweden so they arent migrants, 'new Swedes' is what some people over there call them. This violence is the reason why the Sweden democrats have come from nowhere to become the second biggest party in the country,if anyone went to Sweden 25 years ago they will remember a liberal peaceful country,something seems to have changed that. On the subject of the legally held weapons in Sweden most are shotguns and bolt action rifles held by farmers and people who hunt Deer etc. Other views ignoring the facts and making up unsubstantiated stories are available for those with constrained abilities in analysis I'd love to know where you get your 'facts' from. 3.3 per 100 people in the UK? You're having a laugh! As previously pointed out, does this include illegal weapons? |
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Post by oldie on May 24, 2024 8:52:52 GMT
Other views ignoring the facts and making up unsubstantiated stories are available for those with constrained abilities in analysis I'd love to know where you get your 'facts' from. 3.3 per 100 people in the UK? You're having a laugh! As previously pointed out, does this include illegal weapons? Those are the official ownership records, like you I suspect I have no idea of the number of illegal weapons owned so it is not arguable |
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