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Post by rideintothesun on Oct 18, 2022 13:54:48 GMT
Abramovich's money is covered in blood by virtue of his association with Putin's regime and the fact that the money he looted could have funded Russian healthcare or care for the elderly. Instead it financed Chelsea football club. Members of Celtic's fanbase routinely glorify acts of terrorism and others stand by and tolerate it. I wonder what the response would be if Arab football fans glorified terrorism in the same manner? Neither statement is controversial or uninformed. Run along and have a word with yourself - only a complete moron would use a word like 'sicko' without reflecting on how offensive this is to people with actual mental problems.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2022 14:09:27 GMT
Run along and have a word with yourself - only a complete moron would use a word like 'sicko' without reflecting on how offensive this is to people with actual mental problems. Oh this is magical. Thanks, really has got me through the afternoon at work!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 18, 2022 14:57:16 GMT
Abramovich's money is covered in blood by virtue of his association with Putin's regime and the fact that the money he looted could have funded Russian healthcare or care for the elderly. Instead it financed Chelsea football club. Members of Celtic's fanbase routinely glorify acts of terrorism and others stand by and tolerate it. I wonder what the response would be if Arab football fans glorified terrorism in the same manner? Neither statement is controversial or uninformed. With regard to Abramovich, do you really think that a 16 year old boy thinks deeply about where the money to finance the club came from, when he signs a contract? Very low of you to try and sully Sinclair in this way. Very true BG. These 16 year olds eh? They really are to blame for most things.😉 UTG!
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Post by rideintothesun on Oct 18, 2022 15:19:12 GMT
Abramovich's money is covered in blood by virtue of his association with Putin's regime and the fact that the money he looted could have funded Russian healthcare or care for the elderly. Instead it financed Chelsea football club. Members of Celtic's fanbase routinely glorify acts of terrorism and others stand by and tolerate it. I wonder what the response would be if Arab football fans glorified terrorism in the same manner? Neither statement is controversial or uninformed. With regard to Abramovich, do you really think that a 16 year old boy thinks deeply about where the money to finance the club came from, when he signs a contract? Very low of you to try and sully Sinclair in this way. Chelsea fans and players have been given a free pass on this issue for too long. Everybody and his dog knew how Abramovich made his money. At 16 you are old enough to register to vote, get married and leave home...but apparently you can't be expected to make basic enquiries about how your employer got so rich?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2022 15:25:42 GMT
With regard to Abramovich, do you really think that a 16 year old boy thinks deeply about where the money to finance the club came from, when he signs a contract? Very low of you to try and sully Sinclair in this way. Chelsea fans and players have been given a free pass on this issue for too long. Everybody and his dog knew how Abramovich made his money. At 16 you are old enough to register to vote, get married and leave home...but apparently you can't be expected to make basic enquiries about how your employer got so rich? 1/3, good effort.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 18, 2022 15:26:08 GMT
🙂 Okay Macc,i admit I did judge his size from a YT video of his PNE goals.A decent 'upper middle weight perhaps (another guess)? After the initial £200,000 ,what did Rovers eventually get,that's what i went with? £2.50. lmao 🤣 less tax mind Les. 😝
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Post by rideintothesun on Oct 18, 2022 15:31:12 GMT
Abramovich's money is covered in blood by virtue of his association with Putin's regime and the fact that the money he looted could have funded Russian healthcare or care for the elderly. Instead it financed Chelsea football club. Members of Celtic's fanbase routinely glorify acts of terrorism and others stand by and tolerate it. I wonder what the response would be if Arab football fans glorified terrorism in the same manner? Neither statement is controversial or uninformed. Agreed on Abramovich.Russian billionaires are quite possibly murderers. Yep,some Celtic supporters (how many) are eg loud IRA supporters etc. Arab fans supporting terrorism in the UK? I imagine loads of indoctrinated Britons would turn a blind eye even support them.The majority,if they actually found their voice,would loudly hate and despise them. You chose an interesting way of looking at the return of SS rideintothesun. You could of eg,put up a YT video of his PNE goals,his last club. And where would the fun be in that! Far more interesting to put this in wider perspective and link it into other issues and themes. We have been far too lax with terrorist apologists in the past. However, if a female Arab football team openly celebrated a terrorist group in the same way as the Irish women's team did recently, I can guarantee the public outcry would have been much, much larger. On the Celtic issue, I think we've been far too lenient and its time that the armchair republicans among their fanbase were called out on this and forcefully reminded of cowardly atrocities like the (1972) Birmingham and (1987) Enniskillen bombings.
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Post by syg on Oct 18, 2022 15:41:18 GMT
Went onto twitter and the evening post Sinclair article is with ref to his wife and marital stuff that belongs in the star. I realise it's down market but I was realised surprised, I've now blocked the account.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2022 15:45:43 GMT
Agreed on Abramovich.Russian billionaires are quite possibly murderers. Yep,some Celtic supporters (how many) are eg loud IRA supporters etc. Arab fans supporting terrorism in the UK? I imagine loads of indoctrinated Britons would turn a blind eye even support them.The majority,if they actually found their voice,would loudly hate and despise them. You chose an interesting way of looking at the return of SS rideintothesun. You could of eg,put up a YT video of his PNE goals,his last club. And where would the fun be in that! Far more interesting to put this in wider perspective and link it into other issues and themes. We have been far too lax with terrorist apologists in the past. However, if a female Arab football team openly celebrated a terrorist group in the same way as the Irish women's team did recently, I can guarantee the public outcry would have been much, much larger. On the Celtic issue, I think we've been far too lenient and its time that the armchair republicans among their fanbase were called out on this and forcefully reminded of cowardly atrocities like the (1972) Birmingham and (1987) Enniskillen bombings. Interested to hear your stance on Rangers and Linfield.
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Post by baselswh on Oct 18, 2022 15:59:35 GMT
Agreed on Abramovich.Russian billionaires are quite possibly murderers. Yep,some Celtic supporters (how many) are eg loud IRA supporters etc. Arab fans supporting terrorism in the UK? I imagine loads of indoctrinated Britons would turn a blind eye even support them.The majority,if they actually found their voice,would loudly hate and despise them. You chose an interesting way of looking at the return of SS rideintothesun. You could of eg,put up a YT video of his PNE goals,his last club. And where would the fun be in that! Far more interesting to put this in wider perspective and link it into other issues and themes. We have been far too lax with terrorist apologists in the past. However, if a female Arab football team openly celebrated a terrorist group in the same way as the Irish women's team did recently, I can guarantee the public outcry would have been much, much larger. On the Celtic issue, I think we've been far too lenient and its time that the armchair republicans among their fanbase were called out on this and forcefully reminded of cowardly atrocities like the (1972) Birmingham and (1987) Enniskillen bombings. Although I'm tempted to respond, ,is'nt this best moved to the Politics section of the forum,as Oldie might say? Okay,one quick comment. There's more chance of British Justice Line Dancing from Parkhead to Kilburn ,than do much to stop the mouthy and the quiet anti British Republicans.It's completely part of many Irish peoples identity and not mention ,'part of the United Kingdom furniture'. The law has its favourites. On SS I can perfectly see how it's very nice for him to be back at the fc he started with. Also,I very much hope he can recreate the goal scoring form I saw on YT,plus create chances.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 18, 2022 16:42:12 GMT
www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2022/october/sinclair-in-rovers-return/After eighteen years, Scott Sinclair has returned to Bristol Rovers on a short-term deal. Joining the club's Centre of Excellence as an eight-year-old schoolboy from Bath, he was eventually allocated squad number 34, making two substitute appearances for Rovers' first team, against Leyton Orient and Swansea City in the 2004/05 season. A 90th-minute cameo appearance against Orient was followed by a slightly longer 88th-minute appearance against the Swans, so his Rovers first-team career probably amounted to five minutes! His form for the youth and reserve teams up to that point had been phenomenal and it was no surprise when he would join Chelsea as a 16-year-old, in spite of attempts by Rovers to hang on to him. The eventual fee was decided by tribunal and Scott would go on to play for a number of top clubs, including Celtic, Manchester City and Aston Villa, making a return to The Mem with the Midlands side in a friendly during the summer of 2016. Sinclair, 33, will wear the number 7 shirt for the Gas and said: "I'm delighted to back at the place where my career began. I've been training for a couple of weeks and The Quarters is certainly very different to where we trained when I was younger! I've always wanted to come back to the club to give back what they've given me at the start of my footballing journey." Rovers boss Joey B***** said: "We are delighted to have brought Scott into the group. He has been training with us for a couple of weeks now. We're enjoying having him in with us. He's a fit lad, his experience and quality is superb and he will strengthen us further as we move into these winter months." Sinclair, who has signed until January, is not available for tonight's game with Swindon in the Papa John's Trophy, but could come into contention for selection for this Saturday's clash with table-topping Plymouth Argyle. Failed to achieve his full potential after signing for Chelsea - a common story that can be added to Barkley, Rodwell et al. Sinclair could have been a top, top player with the right guidance but instead opted for Abramovich's blood money that was looted from ordinary Russians. Playing for Celtic and their IRA-glorifying fanbase in the Scottish conference league was scarcely an improvement. However good to see that he is now hitting the heights in the twilight of his career. Welcome back Scott. Do you really believe players buy into the politics ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2022 17:02:06 GMT
Um...welcome (back) to Rovers, Scott. Hope your stay with us is as fruitful as Eliot Anderson.
Scott, (as obviously you'll read this 🤡) to appease the people up the thread, could you please whistle The Sash as you come on to the pitch at your first game and maybe whistle Roddy McCorley on the way off?
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Post by baselswh on Oct 18, 2022 17:27:06 GMT
Um...welcome (back) to Rovers, Scott. Hope your stay with us is as fruitful as Eliot Anderson. Scott, (as obviously you'll read this 🤡) to appease the people up the thread, could you please whistle The Sash as you come on to the pitch at your first game and maybe whistle Roddy McCorley on the way off? 😄 Good idea DrF and Scott, if you happen to get substituted,borrow the ht mic and fart "Men Of Harlech",with a really proud look on your face.
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Post by rideintothesun on Oct 18, 2022 18:22:36 GMT
And where would the fun be in that! Far more interesting to put this in wider perspective and link it into other issues and themes. We have been far too lax with terrorist apologists in the past. However, if a female Arab football team openly celebrated a terrorist group in the same way as the Irish women's team did recently, I can guarantee the public outcry would have been much, much larger. On the Celtic issue, I think we've been far too lenient and its time that the armchair republicans among their fanbase were called out on this and forcefully reminded of cowardly atrocities like the (1972) Birmingham and (1987) Enniskillen bombings. Interested to hear your stance on Rangers and Linfield. Part of the same problem. The difference is that Celtic and Celtic fans so frequently seem to get a free pass on sectarianism from outside observers. Two wrongs don't make a right. I have as little time for Rangers as I do for Celtic fans and their pathetic virtue-signalling on things like Palestine and the British monarchy.
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Post by bluetornados on Oct 18, 2022 21:47:04 GMT
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Post by padstow on Oct 19, 2022 8:08:40 GMT
Chelsea sold Scott Sinclair to Swansea in 2010, for a reported "£500k (rising to £1m, depending on future success)". If we assume the million (as Swansea - under Brendan Rogers - were promoted to the Premier League a year later), then Chelsea would have made a profit of £800k, of which 15% (£120k) would have been due to Rovers. Adding that to the initial fee of £200,000, means that Rovers would have got a total of £320,000 from the "sale" (or would compulsory purchase be more apt, as I remember?). To put that £320k in a little perspective, "Sinclair signed a four-year contract with Premier League champions Manchester City on 31 August 2012, moving from Swansea for a reported transfer fee of £8 million". Oh right,thanks Macc.So SS did'nt make the other increments of games played for Chelsea and international call ups. But did Chelsea have a sell on clause when they sold him to Swansea.if do we would have got an extra 15% of maybe 20% of7 million
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Post by baselswh on Oct 19, 2022 8:13:52 GMT
Oh right,thanks Macc.So SS did'nt make the other increments of games played for Chelsea and international call ups. But did Chelsea have a sell on clause when they sold him to Swansea.if do we would have got an extra 15% of maybe 20% of7 million He did play U21 for England. Don't think he played much for Chelsea, if at all?
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Post by bluetornados on Oct 19, 2022 9:29:05 GMT
But did Chelsea have a sell on clause when they sold him to Swansea.if do we would have got an extra 15% of maybe 20% of7 million He did play U21 for England. Don't think he played much for Chelsea, if at all? 14 games for Chelski, scoring 1 goal.
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Post by Blue Mist on Oct 19, 2022 10:32:32 GMT
He did play U21 for England. Don't think he played much for Chelsea, if at all? 14 games for Chelski, scoring 1 goal. Better record than Timo Werner
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Post by GasMacc1 on Oct 21, 2022 9:21:05 GMT
Oh right,thanks Macc.So SS did'nt make the other increments of games played for Chelsea and international call ups. "But did Chelsea have a sell on clause when they sold him to Swansea. If so, we would have got an extra 15% of maybe 20% of7 million" Good point. That might have amounted to an extra £200k or so. Better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick...
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