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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 5, 2022 13:18:22 GMT
On a similar note, from Saturday 30 July Rochdale v Crewe, opening match of season:
"A Crewe fan required "urgent medical attention" for breathing difficulties after a flare was let off in the away end at Rochdale on Saturday."
Not to confuse things....over exuberance is one thing, but keep things in perspective as this was seriously dangerous.
On a lighter note, the last time I saw flares in the away end, was at Eastville..
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Post by lostinspace on Aug 5, 2022 13:27:14 GMT
On a similar note, from Saturday 30 July Rochdale v Crewe, opening match of season: "A Crewe fan required "urgent medical attention" for breathing difficulties after a flare was let off in the away end at Rochdale on Saturday." Not to confuse things....over exuberance is one thing, but keep things in perspective as this was seriously dangerous. On a lighter note, the last time I saw flares in the away end, was at Eastville.. 6 or 4 button waist ðŸ¤
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Post by trymer on Aug 5, 2022 15:16:25 GMT
I was looking at the Youtube video of the Rovers v Saints 1978 cup game,when Paul Randall scores his 2nd goal a horde of excited fans came on to the pitch,none were older than 11 or12 and they were shooed off by players and stewards. Later some older Saints supporters invaded the pitch possibly hoping to get the game called off ('lets do a Newcastle') there was fighting with the stewards who were then reinforced by the Police and the invaders were ushered back onto the open end terrace. The Eastville stewards were all blokes who were up for it if necessary (anyone remember the tall Teddy boy steward ?) the stewards today look like cub scouts,if stewards are needed get the right people for the job. I remember teddy boy steward and being given a smack by another, when i tried to push things. Do not get me wrong, we had much worse things go in in those days but you are spot on about the stewards being big units and people, well most, would respect what they said. I do not remember any stewards trying to stop anyone with the saints game but you are right in that they wanted to get the match called off as i have spoken, over a long period, with a few and it’s one they remember, albeit for different reasons. We had a torrid time of it when we went there , in the FA cup and lost 3-1 as i remember, two of us were in their end and we genuinely were in fear of an intensive care beating. We played along. They had , as i remember, a hardcore group that had made a name for itself. We were very glad to get onto the coach and get back Have a look on Youtube KP, I had another look at the video that I mentioned and the same person (Floyd Nello) has a 2nd video of the pitch invasion by Saints motley crew (flares and all)....as I mentioned previously in the video with Paul Randall's goals there is the invasion of kids from the South enclosure. 'Football hooligans Bristol Rovers v Southampton Eastville stadium January 1978' watch to the end as its still kicking off in the background, the stewards deal with it all quite well, King of the Teds is in the video too.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 5, 2022 18:17:08 GMT
On a similar note, from Saturday 30 July Rochdale v Crewe, opening match of season: "A Crewe fan required "urgent medical attention" for breathing difficulties after a flare was let off in the away end at Rochdale on Saturday." Not to confuse things....over exuberance is one thing, but keep things in perspective as this was seriously dangerous. On a lighter note, the last time I saw flares in the away end, was at Eastville.. 6 or 4 button waist 🤠6, of course and either pasty or the high rise shoes
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 23, 2022 23:02:50 GMT
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 24, 2022 10:33:51 GMT
That is a very decent percentage of the home support that will receive automatic banning orders. It might well have been 'good natured'. Perhaps supporters went temporarily insane after witnessing Tom Nichols scoring against premiership opposition. But there is no point in having "a law" that the EFL then choses not to enforce.
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Post by Blue Mist on Aug 24, 2022 12:05:41 GMT
That is a very decent percentage of the home support that will receive automatic banning orders. It might well have been 'good natured'. Perhaps supporters went temporarily insane after witnessing Tom Nichols scoring against premiership opposition. But there is no point in having "a law" that the EFL then choses not to enforce. If I’d been at any of our games where TN scored I would have gone insane and invaded the pitch.
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Post by baselswh on Aug 24, 2022 12:10:42 GMT
Tom scored a very good goal at the Mem v Brighton HA.
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Post by lostinspace on Aug 24, 2022 12:20:45 GMT
Tom scored a very good goal at the Mem v Brighton HA. That sort of collective memory was not too hard to recall!!......one of how many?
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Post by baselswh on Aug 24, 2022 13:12:48 GMT
Tom scored a very good goal at the Mem v Brighton HA. That sort of collective memory was not too hard to recall!!......one of how many? LIS,I pointed it out because it had apparently been forgotten that TN scored for Rovers,in the League Cup,at the Mem,against Premiership side Brighton. We all know he missed a ridiculous amount of chances for Rovers.
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 24, 2022 16:45:33 GMT
Crawley Town: EFL condemns pitch invasion after Carabao Cup win over Fulham.
A pitch invasion by Crawley Town fans after their Carabao Cup victory over Fulham on Tuesday has been condemned by the English Football League.
A number of fans entered the pitch to celebrate after the League Two side's 2-0 win over the Premier League club.
The EFL and Premier League brought in new measures to tackle fan behaviour following incidents last season.
"There can be no justification" for spectators going on to the pitch, an EFL statement said.
"It is vital that those playing the game can do so safe in the knowledge that they will not be subjected to violent, threatening, or anti-social behaviour going forward."
The Football Association has confirmed it will investigate.
Crawley sat 84 league positions below their opposition Fulham and the win at Broadfield Stadium capped a historic night for the club.
New rules brought in this summer by the Premier League and EFL say pitch invaders will receive an automatic club ban, with the default response being for offenders to be prosecuted. The league is in contact with Crawley in an attempt to "identify the individuals involved".
"It is also ill advised to encourage and glorify such actions through social media, other digital platforms, and the broader media," the EFL's statement continued.
"This type of inappropriate behaviour is not welcomed and wherever appropriate, the authorities will take the necessary action to ensure this does not happen in the future. "
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Post by baselswh on Aug 24, 2022 17:08:37 GMT
Apparently we've passed the 2 game 'test' and the Thatchers End will return to its usual capacity for Saturdays game against Shrewsbury Town.
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Post by Bath Gas on Aug 24, 2022 17:23:32 GMT
Crawley Town: EFL condemns pitch invasion after Carabao Cup win over Fulham.A pitch invasion by Crawley Town fans after their Carabao Cup victory over Fulham on Tuesday has been condemned by the English Football League. A number of fans entered the pitch to celebrate after the League Two side's 2-0 win over the Premier League club. The EFL and Premier League brought in new measures to tackle fan behaviour following incidents last season. "There can be no justification" for spectators going on to the pitch, an EFL statement said. "It is vital that those playing the game can do so safe in the knowledge that they will not be subjected to violent, threatening, or anti-social behaviour going forward." The Football Association has confirmed it will investigate. Crawley sat 84 league positions below their opposition Fulham and the win at Broadfield Stadium capped a historic night for the club. New rules brought in this summer by the Premier League and EFL say pitch invaders will receive an automatic club ban, with the default response being for offenders to be prosecuted. The league is in contact with Crawley in an attempt to "identify the individuals involved". "It is also ill advised to encourage and glorify such actions through social media, other digital platforms, and the broader media," the EFL's statement continued. "This type of inappropriate behaviour is not welcomed and wherever appropriate, the authorities will take the necessary action to ensure this does not happen in the future. " The fun is gradually being sucked out of the game because a minority of people can't behave themselves, and use the cover of being part of a crowd to be confrontational, and sometimes violent. One of my favourite memories is going on the pitch at Crewe, where we clinched a play-off final place at Wembley.
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 29, 2022 16:02:57 GMT
Huddersfield Town fined £70,000 after play-off semi-final pitch invasion.
ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/14707/production/_126891738_shutterstock_editorial_12942005ay.jpgFans spilled onto the pitch at the John Smith's Stadium after Huddersfield's Championship play-off semi-final win over Luton Huddersfield Town have been fined £70,000 by an independent regulatory commission following a pitch invasion after their Championship play-off semi-final win against Luton Town in May. The fine relates to the behaviour of its supporters after full-time. An elderly Luton fan was also left with a head injury after a coin was thrown at him at the end of the match. "The financial impact should not be underestimated," Town's operations director Ann Hough said. "The severity of this fine is a clear indication of just how serious the events following our play-off semi-final win against Luton, alongside other similar scenes across football in that time, have been taken by the governing bodies. "On top of this significant fine, it is possible that this can also have financial knock-on effects on the club's policing and stewarding costs if our games are now judged to be higher risk than before." The club was charged by the Football Association with breaching FA Rule E20.1, for failing to "ensure its spectators - and all persons purporting to be its supporters or followers - conducted themselves in an orderly fashion, and refrained from using provocative, threatening, and violent behaviour whilst encroaching onto the pitch." Huddersfield went on to lose against Nottingham Forest in the play-off final at Wembley 13 days later. Hough added: "We have no choice other than to take significant action against any individual that runs onto the field of play at any point, or who acts in a provocative, threatening, or violent way. "That will range from bans from the John Smith's Stadium to legal action. There is no place for that kind of behaviour at Huddersfield Town."
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 30, 2022 18:59:16 GMT
Everton fined £300,000 for pitch invasions against Crystal Palace.ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/5F96/production/_126907442_ffans_getty.jpgEverton's win over Palace continued their 68-year streak in the English top flight Everton have been fined £300,000 over the two pitch invasions during their Premier League win over Crystal Palace at Goodison Park on 19 May. The hosts fought back from 2-0 down to secure their Premier League survival in the penultimate game of the season. Fans came onto the pitch to celebrate Dominic Calvert-Lewin's 85th-minute winner and after the final whistle. The Football Association said fans used "threatening and violent behaviour" as they invaded the pitch. Everton admitted failing to control the crowd. Premier League clubs announced earlier this month that fans guilty of anti-social or criminal behaviour at top-flight grounds will be banned from attending games at their club for at least a year. Disorder is at an eight-year high in England and Wales according to Home Office figures, after capacity crowds returned following the end of Covid-19 restrictions. After the game, Palace manager Patrick Vieira appeared to be involved in an altercation with an Everton fan as he made his way to the away dressing room. Merseyside Police spoke to both Vieira and the supporter and, along with the FA, took no action over the incident.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 30, 2022 20:48:14 GMT
Yes, it’s good to see some consistency from the EFL and PL. Some hefty fines given though in the big scheme of things I suppose Everton’s and Huddersfield’s fine won’t make them blink. I guess we’ll need to wait until next April and May to see if the fines have had an effect on others. By that time most fans will probably have forgotten and emotion will conquer reason and they may still come on to the pitch. But clubs will know to be better prepared for it hopefully during and near the end of matches at that time. Time will tell.
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Post by bluetornados on Oct 7, 2022 18:27:46 GMT
Manchester City fined by FA for pitch invasion after winning 2021-2022 Premier League title.Manchester City have been fined £260,000 by the Football Association for a pitch invasion at Etihad Stadium following their Premier League title win last season. Fans came on to the pitch to celebrate after City beat Aston Villa 3-2 on the final day in May to seal the title. Aston Villa keeper Robin Olsen was assaulted during the disorder, while a crossbar was broken. City admitted failing to control the behaviour of the crowd. The club has also being warned about its future conduct after the FA said it failed to ensure supporters "conducted themselves in an orderly fashion and refrained from using threatening and violent behaviour while encroaching on to the pitch". ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/1848/production/_126361260_mediaitem124868473.jpg
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 7, 2022 19:18:49 GMT
As a big critic of the EFL/PL usually I have to say on these incidents of crowd invasions they have shown some consistency and have done almost as much as they could do. And if these clubs’ crowds invade again then I expect much stronger punishments. Whatever they are may well appear more severe, eg. close the grounds, playing before an empty stadium, points deductions. Then the fans will kick off but having been warned I would expect stronger next time.
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Post by russiangas on Oct 7, 2022 22:16:52 GMT
The club are paying for a service, and it is not being delivered. Stewards looking at their phones all time, one couple - in stewards rigout - were even canoodling at the front of the Thatchers terrace. Yes, i have seen similar and some no bigger or experienced that school kids wasn't it a few seasons ago it came out that the club were paying the stewards less than minimum wage? Pretty sure I recall. So I'm guessing they are now paying minimum wage, but I would put money on them not paying a penny more. I know there's not enough money etc etc but when. You pay peanuts you're not going to get people that care about doing a good job.
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Post by Bath Gas on Oct 8, 2022 0:33:23 GMT
Yes, i have seen similar and some no bigger or experienced that school kids wasn't it a few seasons ago it came out that the club were paying the stewards less than minimum wage? Pretty sure I recall. So I'm guessing they are now paying minimum wage, but I would put money on them not paying a penny more. I know there's not enough money etc etc but when. You pay peanuts you're not going to get people that care about doing a good job. When we employed our own stewards, I thought that some of them were quite good, and they built a rapport with regular supporters. Now they are provided by an external source, and some of them don’t merit even the minimum wage.
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