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Post by toteend3 on Apr 9, 2022 9:19:49 GMT
If we are unable to secure an Automatic place we could end up at Wembley maybe against Port Vale.
In this event it would be a ‘slug’ out between two very good teams and two exceptional managers DC and JB
With all five toteend4 members in attendance that be us four oldies plus one child member, cause one still looks the same as he did in the seventies when we ruled Stapleton Road with lots pubs to choice from, before games such as the Sugar Loaf, the Fox, the Queens Head, the 3 Blackbirds, the Black and white Swans and a partridge in a pear tree.
Talking off trees, we are all ‘gutted’ not able to watch the latest ‘cup final’ on iFollow, so it’s a barbecue with lots of meat and beers in the middle of a forest. When ‘err in doors’ asked is it going to be sunny today. To which I answered that’s it still a bit early in the year so the sun is low so could do with the tops off.
She said that could be upsetting if any women and children happened upon us, I said what you mean? She retorted - Well middle aged men with their large stomachs displayed would not a pretty sign!
Made I laugh! causing a little dribble in me boxers! and I’ve toyed with changing our forum name from Toteend4 to 5bellys.
Any way enough of this nonsense, who is the better manager?
DC who’s only fault, in my opinion was that he a bit of a ‘tinker man’ in matters of team selection Loyal and hard working and one can’t argue with his success’s with back to back promotions after relegation.
JB did good job at Fleetwood and on the threshold of promotion after relegation. Also very hard working and an absolute football nut and arguably has the team playing the best football I seen from a Rovers team in fifty years.
Or is to early to make a decision and is to tight to call?
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Post by icegas on Apr 9, 2022 10:15:42 GMT
It's DC for me as that guy saved our club from going out of business in 2015 when he returned us to the football at the first attempt, not to mention getting back to back promotions as well. He is our best manager ever imho.
I do see alot of the same quality's in JB as I did DC and both seem to get us as a supporter base and have grown to love our club.
JB's team are playing some incredible attacking football right now,which is the best I've seen in the 26 years that I've supported us, closest to this teams attacking flair was under Holloway 98- 2000.
I think if JB gets us up and stays with us for another 2/3 years then I believe he will get us to the championship like he stated. But the Problem for us is if he wins us promotion this season, due to his name in football then a championship club will no doubt come calling next season and he will be off.
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 9, 2022 10:24:48 GMT
If B***** gets 2 votes we'll know Basel is using both his logins.
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Apr 9, 2022 10:39:14 GMT
I’m abstaining, as Trollope & Lawrence were better than both.
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Apr 9, 2022 10:45:01 GMT
I’m abstaining, as Trollope & Lawrence were better than both. So were Don Megson, David Williams and Gerry first time around. B***** does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as any of these imho |
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Post by baselswh on Apr 9, 2022 10:56:46 GMT
If B***** gets 2 votes we'll know Basel is using both his logins. Hmm.You've a habit of speaking on my behalf Epping.So I suppose I had better offer my opinion.After all, I am me. DC has an excellent record in the lower divisions.At Salsbury,Rovers and he's got Vale coming along very nicely. Walsall perhaps needed more time? JB imo had Fleetwood doing alright.In the Covid season that ended early,well we'll never know. He has Rovers flying right now.Fantastic football.He's built a structure within the fc that works. Would Joe be at Rovers without his rank of General?No. Has he built the foundations to move Rovers up the EFL?Yes. Darrell worked within the Nick Higgs structure and took us back into the EFL,then from 4th to 3rd tier.Fantastic! There's not much between them is there. Then what would of happened if Darrell had taken us/or other fc to the 2nd tier? How will Joe's Rovers/or other fc do if he leads us/them to the second tier? I think Joe would be a better bet than Darrell to succeed in the 2nd or top tier.Joe played at the top level and I think that experience would be an advantage over Darrells football experiences. I've not voted. Edit. Joe is clearly a better Rovers Manager than perhaps 90% of others.In the scenario a promotion or two is won,then he can be mentioned in the same breath as Don Megson,PT & Lennie,Darrell Clark,Gerry Francis.You really have to win something.So perhaps this poll and question is a little unfair.I suspect Joe could be our best ever,given support by El Presidente and time. |
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 9, 2022 11:42:24 GMT
If B***** gets 2 votes we'll know Basel is using both his logins. Hmm.You've a habit of speaking on my behalf Epping.So I suppose I had better offer my opinion.After all, I am me. DC has an excellent record in the lower divisions.At Salsbury,Rovers and he's got Vale coming along very nicely. Walsall perhaps needed more time? JB imo had Fleetwood doing alright.In the Covid season that ended early,well we'll never know. He has Rovers flying right now.Fantastic football.He's built a structure within the fc that works. Would Joe be at Rovers without his rank of General?No. Has he built the foundations to move Rovers up the EFL?Yes. Darrell worked within the Nick Higgs structure and took us back into the EFL,then from 4th to 3rd tier.Fantastic! There's not much between them is there. Then what would of happened if Darrell had taken us/or other fc to the 2nd tier? How will Joe's Rovers/or other fc do if he leads us/them to the second tier? I think Joe would be a better bet than Darrell to succeed in the 2nd or top tier.Joe played at the top level and I think that experience would be an advantage over Darrells football experiences. I've not voted. Edit. Joe is clearly a better Rovers Manager than perhaps 90% of others.In the scenario a promotion or two is won,then he can be mentioned in the same breath as Don Megson,PT & Lennie,Darrell Clark,Gerry Francis.You really have to win something.So perhaps this poll and question is a little unfair.I suspect Joe could be our best ever,given support by El Presidente and time. No worries Basel, just a bit of banter. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion (and your dual login status, which was a glitch on your side, so not a problem). On B***** we can agree to disagree. But we can agree that the Stranglers were a great band. |
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Post by oldie on Apr 9, 2022 11:48:20 GMT
Hmm.You've a habit of speaking on my behalf Epping.So I suppose I had better offer my opinion.After all, I am me. DC has an excellent record in the lower divisions.At Salsbury,Rovers and he's got Vale coming along very nicely. Walsall perhaps needed more time? JB imo had Fleetwood doing alright.In the Covid season that ended early,well we'll never know. He has Rovers flying right now.Fantastic football.He's built a structure within the fc that works. Would Joe be at Rovers without his rank of General?No. Has he built the foundations to move Rovers up the EFL?Yes. Darrell worked within the Nick Higgs structure and took us back into the EFL,then from 4th to 3rd tier.Fantastic! There's not much between them is there. Then what would of happened if Darrell had taken us/or other fc to the 2nd tier? How will Joe's Rovers/or other fc do if he leads us/them to the second tier? I think Joe would be a better bet than Darrell to succeed in the 2nd or top tier.Joe played at the top level and I think that experience would be an advantage over Darrells football experiences. I've not voted. Edit. Joe is clearly a better Rovers Manager than perhaps 90% of others.In the scenario a promotion or two is won,then he can be mentioned in the same breath as Don Megson,PT & Lennie,Darrell Clark,Gerry Francis.You really have to win something.So perhaps this poll and question is a little unfair.I suspect Joe could be our best ever,given support by El Presidente and time. No worries Basel, just a bit of banter. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion (and your dual login status, which was a glitch on your side, so not a problem). On B***** we can agree to disagree. But we can agree that the Stranglers were a great band. The thought of Basel staring at the Peaches, well, it fits |
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 9, 2022 11:54:54 GMT
No worries Basel, just a bit of banter. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion (and your dual login status, which was a glitch on your side, so not a problem). On B***** we can agree to disagree. But we can agree that the Stranglers were a great band. The thought of Basel staring at the Peaches, well, it fits Some of the lyrical content on Rattus Norvegicus was highly questionable in the 70's. |
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Post by richmace on Apr 9, 2022 12:59:16 GMT
For me, JB would have to get us promoted this season to stand any chance of being in the same conversation as DC. I felt we had a good chance of Championship football under DC, considering that DC started at the depths of League Two with a broken football club, that was a magnificent achievement and why DC has my utmost respect.
It is far too early to judge JB (in footballing terms), we can do that after he has left.
Off the field, there will never be any comparison at all, and therein lies the problem with JBs legacy with The Gas (if there is one).
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Post by baselswh on Apr 9, 2022 13:04:56 GMT
The thought of Basel staring at the Peaches, well, it fits Some of the lyrical content on Rattus Norvegicus was highly questionable in the 70's. Great when they had the strippers on stage. "Making love to the Mersey tunnel, with a sausage,have you ever been to Liverpool ". London Lady. Brilliant album. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 9, 2022 14:32:34 GMT
If B***** gets 2 votes we'll know Basel is using both his logins. Hmm.You've a habit of speaking on my behalf Epping.So I suppose I had better offer my opinion.After all, I am me. DC has an excellent record in the lower divisions.At Salsbury,Rovers and he's got Vale coming along very nicely. Walsall perhaps needed more time? JB imo had Fleetwood doing alright.In the Covid season that ended early,well we'll never know. He has Rovers flying right now.Fantastic football.He's built a structure within the fc that works. Would Joe be at Rovers without his rank of General?No. Has he built the foundations to move Rovers up the EFL?Yes. Darrell worked within the Nick Higgs structure and took us back into the EFL,then from 4th to 3rd tier.Fantastic! There's not much between them is there. Then what would of happened if Darrell had taken us/or other fc to the 2nd tier? How will Joe's Rovers/or other fc do if he leads us/them to the second tier? I think Joe would be a better bet than Darrell to succeed in the 2nd or top tier.Joe played at the top level and I think that experience would be an advantage over Darrells football experiences. I've not voted. Edit. Joe is clearly a better Rovers Manager than perhaps 90% of others.In the scenario a promotion or two is won,then he can be mentioned in the same breath as Don Megson,PT & Lennie,Darrell Clark,Gerry Francis.You really have to win something.So perhaps this poll and question is a little unfair.I suspect Joe could be our best ever,given support by El Presidente and time. DC. Had our own team and not loans and one year contracts |
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Post by laughinggas on Apr 9, 2022 15:00:19 GMT
DC had loans and 1 year contracts.
May not have played the loans much.
Not sure which season was the get promotion and your contract will be renewed, was.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 9, 2022 17:22:39 GMT
DC had loans and 1 year contracts. May not have played the loans much. Not sure which season was the get promotion and your contract will be renewed, was. He had HIS team or what i am saying and he took that team further. B***** has done nothing, yet |
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Post by alftupper on Apr 10, 2022 7:50:46 GMT
The thought of Basel staring at the Peaches, well, it fits Some of the lyrical content on Rattus Norvegicus was highly questionable in the 70's. "Beat you, honey, till you drop." That caused a stir. Rightly so, too. |
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Post by toteend3 on Apr 10, 2022 18:45:58 GMT
THATS A WRAP - DC WON BY A STREET - WHICH WAS PREDICTABLE AS THE MAJORITY OF POSTERS ARE ANTI JB - NEVERTHELESS I DID THINK OPTION 3 WOULD HAVE POLLED MORE
HOWEVER IN HINDSIGHT IT WAS TOO EARLY FOR THIS POLL ASDC (GOOD BAND) HAS ALREADY DONE THE BUSINESS WHILST JB IS GOING FOR HIS FIRST.
ALSO FLAGGED UP (AND RIGHTLY SO) THERE HAS BEEN OTHER SUCCESSFUL MANAGERS, HOWEVER INCREDIBLY HIGH BAR SET BY DC AND DESERVINGLY AT THIS POINT TO BE THE BEST MANAGER OUT OF HIM AND JB.(IF NOT OF ALL TIME)
YESTERDAY’S MATCH CONFIRMED PROMOTION IS NOT GUARANTEED DESPITE SOME DELIGHTFUL FOOTBALL THE ABSENCE OF A PROVEN STRIKER MAY MEAN MISSING OUT THIS SEASON .HOWEVER, IF JB STICKS AROUND AND CONTINUES TO EVOLVE HE COULD IN TIME, GO ON TO TAKE DC’S CROWN .
THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR YOUR VOTES AND OBSERVATIONS THE MAGNITUDE OF DC’S VICTORY RAISED ONE OR TWO EYEBROWS INCLUDING MINE!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2022 19:08:42 GMT
I’m abstaining, as Trollope & Lawrence were better than both. So were Don Megson, David Williams and Gerry first time around. B***** does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as any of these imho Megson is before many on here can remember, Williams had us playing wonderful football, but achieved nothing and Gerry was admittedly a one off. Still think Darrell and Lawrence/Trollope could have emulated him given more time and support. |
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Post by baselswh on Apr 10, 2022 19:30:42 GMT
So were Don Megson, David Williams and Gerry first time around. B***** does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as any of these imho Megson is before many on here can remember, Williams had us playing wonderful football, but achieved nothing and Gerry was admittedly a one off. Still think Darrell and Lawrence/Trollope could have emulated him given more time and support. I agree.With more support and time DC ,PT and Lennie were good enough to of built 3rd tier promotion teams. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 12, 2022 18:09:13 GMT
So were Don Megson, David Williams and Gerry first time around. B***** does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as any of these imho Megson is before many on here can remember, Williams had us playing wonderful football, but achieved nothing and Gerry was admittedly a one off. Still think Darrell and Lawrence/Trollope could have emulated him given more time and support. For me David Williams team played the best football i have seen in the quarters and i was bloody angry that he left as i am positive we would have gone up, as champions, the following season |
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