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Post by gastower on Jan 11, 2022 12:51:50 GMT
Taken from a broadsheet Sunday newspaper
" Some rivalries seem to be based on class division and chippiness. This is certainly true of Bristol City. the affluent half of of Englands second most underachieving major city when it comes to football. The Gasheads of Bristol Rovers revel in their supposed blue collar heritage as opposed to Citys roots in the more affluent south end of town "
Am I alone thinking this is a lazy, poorly researched comment? Being a fan of one club should not mean being expected to hate at least one other club .After all , we live in the same city, attend the same schools, drink in the same pubs and speak with the same accents .However it appears to me the fans who are the least different are the ones who hate each other the most and hence the fierce rivalry.
I dont identify with blue collar heritage as being an accurate description of our fans and the reason we support rovers and as for the " more affluent side of town " perhaps he was thinking of Chew Magna.
For me it was a matter of geography as it was much easier to get to Eastville than Ashton Gate.
From then on , rightly or wrongly, I have stereo typed some city fans as a deeply unpleasant rabble who have attacked our players on and off the pitch and always give our fans a hard time on the rare occasions we play them( personally I would call it a dislike rather than hatred)
PS I do have some city supporting friends who, despite their football allegiances, are great human beings
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Post by Bamber Gashead on Jan 11, 2022 13:31:36 GMT
Taken from a broadsheet Sunday newspaper " Some rivalries seem to be based on class division and chippiness. This is certainly true of Bristol City. the affluent half of of Englands second most underachieving major city when it comes to football. The Gasheads of Bristol Rovers revel in their supposed blue collar heritage as opposed to Citys roots in the more affluent south end of town " Am I alone thinking this is a lazy, poorly researched comment? Being a fan of one club should not mean being expected to hate at least one other club .After all , we live in the same city, attend the same schools, drink in the same pubs and speak with the same accents .However it appears to me the fans who are the least different are the ones who hate each other the most and hence the fierce rivalry. I dont identify with blue collar heritage as being an accurate description of our fans and the reason we support rovers and as for the " more affluent side of town " perhaps he was thinking of Chew Magna. For me it was a matter of geography as it was much easier to get to Eastville than Ashton Gate. From then on , rightly or wrongly, I have stereo typed some city fans as a deeply unpleasant rabble who have attacked our players on and off the pitch and always give our fans a hard time on the rare occasions we play them( personally I would call it a dislike rather than hatred) PS I do have some city supporting friends who, despite their football allegiances, are great human beings Our blue collar goes with our blue & white quartered shirts whereas their white collar goes with their better dead than red shi(r)ts...  |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 11, 2022 13:43:13 GMT
I have told this story before but dad used to take us , 4 boys, to both teams home games but most of the old Poles went for city and simply due to them playing in the same colours as the polish national flag. I never liked the ride there or being there, as Rovers was more fun and i loved the gallows humour. My uncle also gave me a Rovers scarf and my eldest brother wouldn’t go to AG. Food is very important to a young boy too and theirs was awful.
I had a lot of arguments when at the Polish club but most were fair natured.
I did have a brief period of hating them, after i took a few blows in a Glos cup match but i have a fair few red mates. In the day, they would keep quiet about that, in Kingswood. It was , near enough, a lock out Blue area but not now.
I saw some vile things happen to their lot , i am glad i don’t see it now.
I can’t hate those I don’t know
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 11, 2022 13:54:12 GMT
Taken from a broadsheet Sunday newspaper " Some rivalries seem to be based on class division and chippiness. This is certainly true of Bristol City. the affluent half of of Englands second most underachieving major city when it comes to football. The Gasheads of Bristol Rovers revel in their supposed blue collar heritage as opposed to Citys roots in the more affluent south end of town " Am I alone thinking this is a lazy, poorly researched comment? Being a fan of one club should not mean being expected to hate at least one other club .After all , we live in the same city, attend the same schools, drink in the same pubs and speak with the same accents .However it appears to me the fans who are the least different are the ones who hate each other the most and hence the fierce rivalry. I dont identify with blue collar heritage as being an accurate description of our fans and the reason we support rovers and as for the " more affluent side of town " perhaps he was thinking of Chew Magna. For me it was a matter of geography as it was much easier to get to Eastville than Ashton Gate. From then on , rightly or wrongly, I have stereo typed some city fans as a deeply unpleasant rabble who have attacked our players on and off the pitch and always give our fans a hard time on the rare occasions we play them( personally I would call it a dislike rather than hatred) PS I do have some city supporting friends who, despite their football allegiances, are great human beings I didn’t see the article but I’m not surprised that it may be poorly researched or lazy, where’ve I read a paper nowadays I wonder at some of the dross being written! And, as you’ve said, to stereotype in such a general way about the north/south parts of Bristol is particularly lazy as both geographical areas have all types, ‘blue collar’ and ‘more affluent’. Btw, which paper was it? UTG! |
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Post by gastower on Jan 11, 2022 14:05:14 GMT
Sunday Times Rod Liddle!
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 11, 2022 14:07:11 GMT
Taken from a broadsheet Sunday newspaper " Some rivalries seem to be based on class division and chippiness. This is certainly true of Bristol City. the affluent half of of Englands second most underachieving major city when it comes to football. The Gasheads of Bristol Rovers revel in their supposed blue collar heritage as opposed to Citys roots in the more affluent south end of town " Am I alone thinking this is a lazy, poorly researched comment? Being a fan of one club should not mean being expected to hate at least one other club .After all , we live in the same city, attend the same schools, drink in the same pubs and speak with the same accents .However it appears to me the fans who are the least different are the ones who hate each other the most and hence the fierce rivalry. I dont identify with blue collar heritage as being an accurate description of our fans and the reason we support rovers and as for the " more affluent side of town " perhaps he was thinking of Chew Magna. For me it was a matter of geography as it was much easier to get to Eastville than Ashton Gate. From then on , rightly or wrongly, I have stereo typed some city fans as a deeply unpleasant rabble who have attacked our players on and off the pitch and always give our fans a hard time on the rare occasions we play them( personally I would call it a dislike rather than hatred) PS I do have some city supporting friends who, despite their football allegiances, are great human beings I didn’t see the article but I’m not surprised that it may be poorly researched or lazy, where’ve I read a paper nowadays I wonder at some of the dross being written! And, as you’ve said, to stereotype in such a general way about the north/south parts of Bristol is particularly lazy as both geographical areas have all types, ‘blue collar’ and ‘more affluent’. Btw, which paper was it? UTG! Agreed and i would say the northern areas are more monied. Just look at the suburbs of Bristol, in the north. |
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Post by irenestoyboy on Jan 11, 2022 16:54:27 GMT
I wouldnt wipe my arse with the drivel that man writes. Rod Liddle that is, not you GT!
City, are they more wealthy than Rovers? They might be, truth is, we dont know how much Wael is worth and just because we know Hargreaves is rich man, we dont know how much of that wealth is actually in his back pocket either. Are city supporters richer than Rovers supporters? Who knows? I'm sure there are well off fans on both sides of the river as much as there are some who live hand to mouth.
Aside from Clifton, Abbots Leigh, Leigh Woods, Cadbury Camp and the upper part of victorian and coastal Clevedon, I am struggling to think of any areas of Bristol which I would consider to be very well monied and even then its nothing compared to parts London or Cheshire.
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Post by george on Jan 11, 2022 17:11:10 GMT
I wouldnt wipe my arse with the drivel that man writes. Rod Liddle that is, not you GT! City, are they more wealthy than Rovers? They might be, truth is, we dont know how much Wael is worth and just because we know Hargreaves is rich man, we dont know how much of that wealth is actually in his back pocket either. Are city supporters richer than Rovers supporters? Who knows? I'm sure there are well off fans on both sides of the river as much as there are some who live hand to mouth. Aside from Clifton, Abbots Leigh, Leigh Woods, Cadbury Camp and the upper part of victorian and coastal Clevedon, I am struggling to think of any areas of Bristol which I would consider to be very well monied and even then its nothing compared to parts London or Cheshire. Think you may have muddled up Hargreaves with Lansdown. But I get your point. |
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 11, 2022 19:34:09 GMT
Thanks. Well, no surprise there that it is lazy and poorly researched then. UTG! |
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Post by irenestoyboy on Jan 11, 2022 22:28:08 GMT
I wouldnt wipe my arse with the drivel that man writes. Rod Liddle that is, not you GT! City, are they more wealthy than Rovers? They might be, truth is, we dont know how much Wael is worth and just because we know Hargreaves is rich man, we dont know how much of that wealth is actually in his back pocket either. Are city supporters richer than Rovers supporters? Who knows? I'm sure there are well off fans on both sides of the river as much as there are some who live hand to mouth. Aside from Clifton, Abbots Leigh, Leigh Woods, Cadbury Camp and the upper part of victorian and coastal Clevedon, I am struggling to think of any areas of Bristol which I would consider to be very well monied and even then its nothing compared to parts London or Cheshire. Think you may have muddled up Hargreaves with Lansdown. But I get your point. Yes. It’s been a very very long 48 hours for me! |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 12, 2022 13:33:13 GMT
I wouldnt wipe my arse with the drivel that man writes. Rod Liddle that is, not you GT! City, are they more wealthy than Rovers? They might be, truth is, we dont know how much Wael is worth and just because we know Hargreaves is rich man, we dont know how much of that wealth is actually in his back pocket either. Are city supporters richer than Rovers supporters? Who knows? I'm sure there are well off fans on both sides of the river as much as there are some who live hand to mouth. Aside from Clifton, Abbots Leigh, Leigh Woods, Cadbury Camp and the upper part of victorian and coastal Clevedon, I am struggling to think of any areas of Bristol which I would consider to be very well monied and even then its nothing compared to parts London or Cheshire. Westbury, Snead park and all around the downs area are in most lists of wealthy places that come up on places of interest too |
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Post by irenestoyboy on Jan 12, 2022 16:08:05 GMT
I wouldnt wipe my arse with the drivel that man writes. Rod Liddle that is, not you GT! City, are they more wealthy than Rovers? They might be, truth is, we dont know how much Wael is worth and just because we know Hargreaves is rich man, we dont know how much of that wealth is actually in his back pocket either. Are city supporters richer than Rovers supporters? Who knows? I'm sure there are well off fans on both sides of the river as much as there are some who live hand to mouth. Aside from Clifton, Abbots Leigh, Leigh Woods, Cadbury Camp and the upper part of victorian and coastal Clevedon, I am struggling to think of any areas of Bristol which I would consider to be very well monied and even then its nothing compared to parts London or Cheshire. Westbury, Snead park and all around the downs area are in most lists of wealthy places that come up on places of interest too I consider Sneyd Park to be Clifton-ish, its a stones throw. Westbury, upper middle maybe, there may be one or two grandious properties but not in comparison to Clifton. |
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