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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Oct 3, 2021 8:42:52 GMT
There's a video on Twitter taken from behind the dugout of Garner shaking hands with our coaching team at the end of the game. Two irate blokes started shouting abuse: "It's all your fault you f******g bald-headed **** for bringing a load of rubbish into the club". B***** was strolling back across the pitch and did his usual half turn applause to the fans in the stand but the timing was so good it looked like he was applauding them two. #youcouldntmakeitup
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 3, 2021 9:23:09 GMT
Still goes to show how much the fanbase is ill informed, ill judged and divided.
Feelings are running high and it's only a matter of time before it turns physical and ugly.
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Post by gasprom on Oct 3, 2021 9:25:44 GMT
It’s a shame there are people still on the bandwagon blaming whoever B***** tells them to blame this week. At least the majority can see where the problem lies.
Personally, I blame Martin Dobson. Joey, if your minders are reading this, please credit me if you use this in your next presser
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Oct 3, 2021 12:25:09 GMT
It’s a shame there are people still on the bandwagon blaming whoever B***** tells them to blame this week. At least the majority can see where the problem lies. Personally, I blame Martin Dobson. Joey, if your minders are reading this, please credit me if you use this in your next presser do the majority see where the problem lies? |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Oct 3, 2021 12:29:57 GMT
There's a video on Twitter taken from behind the dugout of Garner shaking hands with our coaching team at the end of the game. Two irate blokes started shouting abuse: "It's all your fault you f******g bald-headed **** for bringing a load of rubbish into the club". B***** was strolling back across the pitch and did his usual half turn applause to the fans in the stand but the timing was so good it looked like he was applauding them two. #youcouldntmakeitup My moneys on he heard them. |
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Post by lostinspace on Oct 3, 2021 13:06:54 GMT
It’s a shame there are people still on the bandwagon blaming whoever B***** tells them to blame this week. At least the majority can see where the problem lies. Personally, I blame Martin Dobson. Joey, if your minders are reading this, please credit me if you use this in your next presser Martin Dobson is on page 22 of his " who to blame book" 📖 |
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Post by bloogas on Oct 3, 2021 14:25:23 GMT
It’s a shame there are people still on the bandwagon blaming whoever B***** tells them to blame this week. At least the majority can see where the problem lies. Personally, I blame Martin Dobson. Joey, if your minders are reading this, please credit me if you use this in your next presser And where might the problem lie? |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Oct 3, 2021 15:24:29 GMT
There's a video on Twitter taken from behind the dugout of Garner shaking hands with our coaching team at the end of the game. Two irate blokes started shouting abuse: "It's all your fault you f******g bald-headed **** for bringing a load of rubbish into the club". B***** was strolling back across the pitch and did his usual half turn applause to the fans in the stand but the timing was so good it looked like he was applauding them two. #youcouldntmakeitup To be fair to the fans you are maligning, so many other fans once thought the same, and so many thought Joey knew football management and would be the saviour. Both Tis and Garner say the same thing about not being backed as Rovers boss, in the transfers they wanted and they way they wanted to play. “as I’ve said there was a lot of things that I felt were outside of my control,” Garner said. “At Swindon, I’ve got that support and control that I need to be able to work they I want and for us to play the way I want.” This directly contradicts the way B***** has been directing the rovers fans to think. Hence gasheads yesterday shouting and swearing at Garner, blaming him for our current plight. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2021 17:49:25 GMT
Oh ffs Bus Boy. Last time I bother to respond to you. Last week "B***** is our saviour". This week, "B***** out".
Stop being a wind up and go back to your other account.
B***** out.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Oct 3, 2021 19:04:47 GMT
Oh ffs Bus Boy. Last time I bother to respond to you. Last week "B***** is our saviour". This week, "B***** out". Stop being a wind up and go back to your other account. B***** out. I’ve never promoted B***** as a saviour. Only promoted the idea we can get into habit of sacking too quickly before working out if it’s working for a manager or not. Ive promoted patience. I’ve also promoted the idea a manager is just one person, there’s a great many people working hard at this club for success, so I find it hard willing them to lose matches to pile pressure on all of them, not just the manager - and I stand by that. I’m actually rather surprised so many of you find it so easy to do that. Put your hand on your heart and say you knew ten games ago it definitely wouldn’t work on field and training ground for Joey this season. No one knew that for certain. Also, in defence of myself, very few posts to this football fan blog try to analyse and articulate why it’s not working, exactly why the current manager is poor at football management. |
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Post by Bath Gas on Oct 3, 2021 19:25:39 GMT
It’s a shame there are people still on the bandwagon blaming whoever B***** tells them to blame this week. At least the majority can see where the problem lies. Personally, I blame Martin Dobson. Joey, if your minders are reading this, please credit me if you use this in your next presser There are quite a few fans who still hold some sort of hatred for Ben Garner, blaming him for wrecking the club. I don't think they needed any prompting from B***** to let BG "have it" upon his return to The Mem. I actually felt quite embarrassed, as I thought that Garner always acted with dignity, and I'm sure that are some beans which he could spill if he were so inclined. |
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 3, 2021 19:26:56 GMT
Oh ffs Bus Boy. Last time I bother to respond to you. Last week "B***** is our saviour". This week, "B***** out". Stop being a wind up and go back to your other account. B***** out. I’ve never promoted B***** as a saviour. Only promoted the idea we can get into habit of sacking too quickly before working out if it’s working for a manager or not. Ive promoted patience. I’ve also promoted the idea a manager is just one person, there’s a great many people working hard at this club for success, so I find it hard willing them to lose matches to pile pressure on all of them, not just the manager - and I stand by that. I’m actually rather surprised so many of you find it so easy to do that. Put your hand on your heart and say you knew ten games ago it definitely wouldn’t work on field and training ground for Joey this season. No one knew that for certain. Also, in defence of myself, very few posts to this football fan blog try to analyse and articulate why it’s not working, exactly why the current manager is poor at football management. OK, I'll bite. I was sure B*****'s appointment on Feb 22nd was a mistake. I was even more sure when he employed his mates from the north west (on League 1 wages) and injury prone journeyman (on League 1 wages) in the closed season. The Club is a joke. But that joke isn't funny any more. Courtesy Morrisey. |
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Post by gasprom on Oct 3, 2021 19:32:20 GMT
Oh ffs Bus Boy. Last time I bother to respond to you. Last week "B***** is our saviour". This week, "B***** out". Stop being a wind up and go back to your other account. B***** out. I’ve never promoted B***** as a saviour. Only promoted the idea we can get into habit of sacking too quickly before working out if it’s working for a manager or not. Ive promoted patience. I’ve also promoted the idea a manager is just one person, there’s a great many people working hard at this club for success, so I find it hard willing them to lose matches to pile pressure on all of them, not just the manager - and I stand by that. I’m actually rather surprised so many of you find it so easy to do that. Put your hand on your heart and say you knew ten games ago it definitely wouldn’t work on field and training ground for Joey this season. No one knew that for certain. Also, in defence of myself, very few posts to this football fan blog try to analyse and articulate why it’s not working, exactly why the current manager is poor at football management. Why exactly it’s not working? It’s a results business. Results are dire. If results are poor, there can be mitigating factors or signs of progress to offset that and warrant patience. I can’t see any signs of that. Recruitment, tactics, attitude, behaviour - all pathetic. To top it off, he’s been charged with battering his wife. Go to games, sing his name, wave your flag if you like. You’re entitled to your view and I respect that. Just my opinion but you’ll be clapping all the way out of the league |
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Post by towngas on Oct 3, 2021 19:32:52 GMT
Oh ffs Bus Boy. Last time I bother to respond to you. Last week "B***** is our saviour". This week, "B***** out". Stop being a wind up and go back to your other account. B***** out. I’ve never promoted B***** as a saviour. Only promoted the idea we can get into habit of sacking too quickly before working out if it’s working for a manager or not. Ive promoted patience. I’ve also promoted the idea a manager is just one person, there’s a great many people working hard at this club for success, so I find it hard willing them to lose matches to pile pressure on all of them, not just the manager - and I stand by that. I’m actually rather surprised so many of you find it so easy to do that. Put your hand on your heart and say you knew ten games ago it definitely wouldn’t work on field and training ground for Joey this season. No one knew that for certain. Also, in defence of myself, very few posts to this football fan blog try to analyse and articulate why it’s not working, exactly why the current manager is poor at football management. I may be wrong and I can't be bothered to trawl back through hundreds of posts, but I have the distinct impression you were anti-B***** from the off, not because of his inability as a manager but because you hated what he had done and the sort of person you perceived him to be. It now appears you are solely concerned with his managerial ability and whether he is suitable purely from that measure. Perhaps I am wrong, but it seems you have subtly changed your stance to reflect the current trend. |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Oct 3, 2021 23:35:30 GMT
I’ve never promoted B***** as a saviour. Only promoted the idea we can get into habit of sacking too quickly before working out if it’s working for a manager or not. Ive promoted patience. I’ve also promoted the idea a manager is just one person, there’s a great many people working hard at this club for success, so I find it hard willing them to lose matches to pile pressure on all of them, not just the manager - and I stand by that. I’m actually rather surprised so many of you find it so easy to do that. Put your hand on your heart and say you knew ten games ago it definitely wouldn’t work on field and training ground for Joey this season. No one knew that for certain. Also, in defence of myself, very few posts to this football fan blog try to analyse and articulate why it’s not working, exactly why the current manager is poor at football management. I may be wrong and I can't be bothered to trawl back through hundreds of posts, but I have the distinct impression you were anti-B***** from the off, not because of his inability as a manager but because you hated what he had done and the sort of person you perceived him to be. It now appears you are solely concerned with his managerial ability and whether he is suitable purely from that measure. Perhaps I am wrong, but it seems you have subtly changed your stance to reflect the current trend. That’s exactly right yeah. Spot on. Very perceptive. You have actually summed it up perfectly. Thank you. A couple of months ago I subtly - I don’t want to come over all Holy Ghost - seperated B***** into two. The man and the manager. His backstory for violence and selling snake oil put me off wanting him as manager, though I appreciate the idea of having a thug waiting in the dressing room for gutless underperforming players was a big selling point for a lot of fans wanting him here, but B***** is more than a mere thug, Pearson, Ferguson etc were never jailed, nor do proper managers continually promote themselves as God’s gift to earth, slag off other managers, never take the blame on themselves. Also very few managers get teams playing the s***e way B***** got Fleetwood Playing, with the amount of diving and gamesmanship winning no friends. IMO most football fans will accept losing if the other team played the better game, good football, but will just be frustrated if the other team produced nothing, just came to cheat and got away with it. All those things put me off B***** before he came here. But there are endless threads and posts already on this blog, and the internet, already preaching to the converted on that point. So it was time to separate all that character stuff from him, just assess him purely for his managerial skills. Is he a good young manager? A truth is, sometimes things take time to gel, football fans need to be patient. But time is up now. Now it’s clear this is not improving anytime soon under him. Why is it so clear? What do we now know? Put very simply, he is wedded to formation and tactical plans that haven’t been working, he doesn’t try plan B, he is very slow at changing it when watching his plan not working, his match management is dire, inability to work with anything inherited now feels more like part of a blame game than anything perceptive considering what he has replaced the old squad with, and how he is trying to play football without any midfield press. It’s time for those still waving Joey flags to wake up now to the fact he is not as good a manager as he claims to be. I appreciate the idea of having a thug waiting in the dressing room for gutless underperforming players was a big selling point for a lot of fans wanting him here - they were wrong and are proved wrong - Joey is a few rungs up the psychopath ladder than mere hairdryer treatment - the court appearances grow whilst the team performances don’t get any better. Two key arguments should convince them. If we had kept Hanlon and Ayunga (not even upgrading them) and played them in all these league two games in a more solid midfield pressing formation like 4 4 2 or 4 4 3, would it have been as bad as this? We certainly haven’t upgraded on them. We have less of a strike force now than when Ben and Tis were sacked - and this is 100% B*****’s fault. There’s people like Cocko who have been coaching and number 2’s for many years - they know the business - who the hell is ever going to hire Joey as a coach or number 2 so he can learn how to be good at his trade? So which kind of head coach will we be better off with this winter to make this better? Experienced guy or bulls***ting novice? Yes we can do better! B***** out. |
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 4, 2021 8:49:26 GMT
I may be wrong and I can't be bothered to trawl back through hundreds of posts, but I have the distinct impression you were anti-B***** from the off, not because of his inability as a manager but because you hated what he had done and the sort of person you perceived him to be. It now appears you are solely concerned with his managerial ability and whether he is suitable purely from that measure. Perhaps I am wrong, but it seems you have subtly changed your stance to reflect the current trend. That’s exactly right yeah. Spot on. Very perceptive. You have actually summed it up perfectly. Thank you. A couple of months ago I subtly - I don’t want to come over all Holy Ghost - seperated B***** into two. The man and the manager. His backstory for violence and selling snake oil put me off wanting him as manager, though I appreciate the idea of having a thug waiting in the dressing room for gutless underperforming players was a big selling point for a lot of fans wanting him here, but B***** is more than a mere thug, Pearson, Ferguson etc were never jailed, nor do proper managers continually promote themselves as God’s gift to earth, slag off other managers, never take the blame on themselves. Also very few managers get teams playing the s***e way B***** got Fleetwood Playing, with the amount of diving and gamesmanship winning no friends. IMO most football fans will accept losing if the other team played the better game, good football, but will just be frustrated if the other team produced nothing, just came to cheat and got away with it. All those things put me off B***** before he came here. But there are endless threads and posts already on this blog, and the internet, already preaching to the converted on that point. So it was time to separate all that character stuff from him, just assess him purely for his managerial skills. Is he a good young manager? A truth is, sometimes things take time to gel, football fans need to be patient. But time is up now. Now it’s clear this is not improving anytime soon under him. Why is it so clear? What do we now know? Put very simply, he is wedded to formation and tactical plans that haven’t been working, he doesn’t try plan B, he is very slow at changing it when watching his plan not working, his match management is dire, inability to work with anything inherited now feels more like part of a blame game than anything perceptive considering what he has replaced the old squad with, and how he is trying to play football without any midfield press. It’s time for those still waving Joey flags to wake up now to the fact he is not as good a manager as he claims to be. I appreciate the idea of having a thug waiting in the dressing room for gutless underperforming players was a big selling point for a lot of fans wanting him here - they were wrong and are proved wrong - Joey is a few rungs up the psychopath ladder than mere hairdryer treatment - the court appearances grow whilst the team performances don’t get any better. Two key arguments should convince them. If we had kept Hanlon and Ayunga (not even upgrading them) and played them in all these league two games in a more solid midfield pressing formation like 4 4 2 or 4 4 3, would it have been as bad as this? We certainly haven’t upgraded on them. We have less of a strike force now than when Ben and Tis were sacked - and this is 100% B*****’s fault. There’s people like Cocko who have been coaching and number 2’s for many years - they know the business - who the hell is ever going to hire Joey as a coach or number 2 so he can learn how to be good at his trade? So which kind of head coach will we be better off with this winter to make this better? Experienced guy or bulls***ting novice? Yes we can do better! B***** out. Good post but I wouldn't get rid yet, I am thinking another transfer window, this squad won't go up but won't go down. |
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Post by crater on Oct 4, 2021 9:27:49 GMT
Personally, I blame Professor Chris Whitty.
He was the one who said we should get the Joseph Anthony B*****
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Post by towngas on Oct 6, 2021 19:26:10 GMT
That’s exactly right yeah. Spot on. Very perceptive. You have actually summed it up perfectly. Thank you. A couple of months ago I subtly - I don’t want to come over all Holy Ghost - seperated B***** into two. The man and the manager. His backstory for violence and selling snake oil put me off wanting him as manager, though I appreciate the idea of having a thug waiting in the dressing room for gutless underperforming players was a big selling point for a lot of fans wanting him here, but B***** is more than a mere thug, Pearson, Ferguson etc were never jailed, nor do proper managers continually promote themselves as God’s gift to earth, slag off other managers, never take the blame on themselves. Also very few managers get teams playing the s***e way B***** got Fleetwood Playing, with the amount of diving and gamesmanship winning no friends. IMO most football fans will accept losing if the other team played the better game, good football, but will just be frustrated if the other team produced nothing, just came to cheat and got away with it. All those things put me off B***** before he came here. But there are endless threads and posts already on this blog, and the internet, already preaching to the converted on that point. So it was time to separate all that character stuff from him, just assess him purely for his managerial skills. Is he a good young manager? A truth is, sometimes things take time to gel, football fans need to be patient. But time is up now. Now it’s clear this is not improving anytime soon under him. Why is it so clear? What do we now know? Put very simply, he is wedded to formation and tactical plans that haven’t been working, he doesn’t try plan B, he is very slow at changing it when watching his plan not working, his match management is dire, inability to work with anything inherited now feels more like part of a blame game than anything perceptive considering what he has replaced the old squad with, and how he is trying to play football without any midfield press. It’s time for those still waving Joey flags to wake up now to the fact he is not as good a manager as he claims to be. I appreciate the idea of having a thug waiting in the dressing room for gutless underperforming players was a big selling point for a lot of fans wanting him here - they were wrong and are proved wrong - Joey is a few rungs up the psychopath ladder than mere hairdryer treatment - the court appearances grow whilst the team performances don’t get any better. Two key arguments should convince them. If we had kept Hanlon and Ayunga (not even upgrading them) and played them in all these league two games in a more solid midfield pressing formation like 4 4 2 or 4 4 3, would it have been as bad as this? We certainly haven’t upgraded on them. We have less of a strike force now than when Ben and Tis were sacked - and this is 100% B*****’s fault. There’s people like Cocko who have been coaching and number 2’s for many years - they know the business - who the hell is ever going to hire Joey as a coach or number 2 so he can learn how to be good at his trade? So which kind of head coach will we be better off with this winter to make this better? Experienced guy or bulls***ting novice? Yes we can do better! B***** out. Good post but I wouldn't get rid yet, I am thinking another transfer window, this squad won't go up but won't go down. I believe it was Wattola who said relegation was never an issue and we were only in the relegation zone for 45 mins. When you think about it, we’ve had some incompetent twats running this FC. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 7, 2021 7:41:08 GMT
Antoni watola but with a Line throgh the L
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