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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 22, 2021 9:21:48 GMT
Would not be surprised to see TW leaving BRFC if Barton & his backroom boot boy's are appointed. If there can be one positive... I can’t understand why TWs role alongside the manager is being defined now and not 3 months ago. Perhaps now we’d still have a proper football manager being allowed to do his job I would have preferred keeping Tisdale and allowing him to move his back room staff in whilst clearly defining TW’s remit to work with PT’s skills...after all PT has achieved more in the game. Now we are likely to have Barton and his team, more redundancies, a wheeler dealer banned agent and a director of football who may not be directing as much football. This is almost descending into a lower version of when Mike Ashley appointed Joe Kinnear
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 21, 2021 23:56:31 GMT
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In Doncaster Rovers' 2011–12 season they struggled for form, failing to win any of their first seven matches. Then manager, Sean O'Driscoll, was sacked, with Dean Saunders being brought in to replace him.[9]
With the help of McKay, Doncaster Rovers brought in several "big–name" players in on loans and short-term contracts to try and rescue the club's Championship status,[10] including El Hadji Diouf, Pascal Chimbonda, Herita Ilunga, Carl Ikeme, Frédéric Piquionne, and Habib Beye.[11] Other players linked with the club included Robert Pires and the ex-Real Madrid midfielder Mahamadou Diarra. In the end, Doncaster were relegated to League One with three games still to play after a highly controversial match against Portsmouth.[12] Many supporters blamed the failure to stay in the Championship on McKay's involvement. At the end of the 2011–12 season, chairman John Ryan deemed the McKay "experiment" over as it "didn't work" and "wouldn't work in the third tier" anyway.[10]
Source: Wikipedia
Let’s hope Wael and John Ryan have exchanged contact details at previous football club summits
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 21, 2021 22:17:29 GMT
He was behind the hiring of the plane iirc He’s also banned, bankrupt and going to jail 🤞 “A key part of the negotiations that have taken place since Barton visited Bristol last Tuesday, which at several points almost led the club to explore other avenues, was his willingness to bring in his own people and a reluctance to work within an organisation where another individual heads up the recruitment.” www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/joey-barton-bristol-rovers-manager-5029566.amp?__twitter_impression=true
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 21, 2021 21:31:24 GMT
Then we're doomed Swiss. No two ways about it if WAQ is like that. Well I’m often seen as a doom merchant Bas But I think you can already see the confrontation coming and a Barton/McKay axis will make mincemeat of a Widdrington/Starnes alliance. The answer to that will be “ why not, we would be replacing losers with winners”. But we should be under no illusions that yes, compared to what we have now JB and WM might be classed as winners, but they are winners for themselves and not necessarily for a team. So in bringing them in Wael is gambling that while Rovers might gain some benefit as a spin off from their involvement what is highly likely, IMO, is that whatever happens they will drain him of his remaining funds. A quick google of willie McKay does not make good reading. Forgot he was heavily involved in the unfortunately Sala transfer. Cosying up to JB and WM would not be a good indication of the level of integrity running through the club.
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 20, 2021 13:42:39 GMT
Note on commentary. The 'sub-commentator' is very good. The main one is a bit biased. But very good so far. Fair play. They know their stuff and are being as impartial as possible as fans of gills. They have a ‘mate down the pub’ style of discussion. I like it.
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 20, 2021 11:41:10 GMT
Great kick off time for those downunder. A midnight kick-off - tiger prawns and Byron Bay lager at the ready
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 20, 2021 10:02:38 GMT
Is it conceivable the TW is rewarded on the future transfers of his signings? Possibly. It isn't unusual for a manager to have a bonus clause written into their contract so why not the DOF particularly one that is fully in charge of player recruitment. I wonder if this was why there was a push to get rid of the older, established players during the off season?
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 20, 2021 9:50:01 GMT
Rovers have had some naughty boys playing for us in the past.We can perhaps come up with quite a list. Are 'we' not going to town a wee bit on JB? Not sure I understood one post,but I think JB was called a "Nazi",although maybe I've misunderstood. Anger Management Course might be a good place for Joey to start.A word with Ollie might help. Working with TW, accepting our coaching system and staff could be the biggest challenge for our new Manager. Maybe TW will need reminding he is'nt the Boss. But TW is the boss. He stands over any manager/coach that comes in with his Director Of Football role and a seat in the boardroom making executive decisions. He has already made that clear to this group of players and that is why Wael should tell him to do the job until the end of the season when Wael needs to make a serious decision. Is it conceivable the TW is rewarded on the future transfers of his signings?
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 19, 2021 9:15:21 GMT
Ollie back in the Evening Post - "What I can't understand is why the club need a director of football and a manager. What if they disagree over team selection or tactics?" "....The first requirements surely then will be to pick a candidate who shares his ideas and one he can work with amicably." "If things failed after that, where would the responsibility lie? I think supporters at many clubs are coming to the conclusion that everything can't be the manager's fault" You're welcome Ollie. Whomever will be chosen as the new first team coach will need to play 5-3-2, work with the existing coaches and promise never to criticise the board. I can’t see anyone beyond Widdrington for the role.
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 18, 2021 8:22:17 GMT
I'm an Oz fan when he's given a bit of freedom either in a floating Chris Lines role or as an attacking midfielder. However, I don't think he is suited to the 4-4-2. He has that ability to control the ball and pivot and get that extra second before making the clinical pass to the forward or the calming bass when there's congestion. He's far better than Michele Di Piedi.
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 18, 2021 8:08:01 GMT
The news that Joe Ledley is apparently training with Rovers lends credence to the rumour that the club is now heavily involved with controversial football agent Willie McKay. Swiss, please tell me there is nothing to the McKay rumour We were linked with him last season www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/truth-behind-omar-bogle-joe-3713298Apparently he 'pined' for a move back to south Wales in January last year. Fortunately he got that move albeit to New South Wales with the Newcastle Jets where Carl Robinson was managing. Then Covid hit and it all went to bat s**t, excuse the pun.
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 16, 2021 7:46:46 GMT
I would have Jason Tindall over Joey Barton every day of the week. He’s worked at a small club that has then achieve multiple promotions, he’s a defender by trade, from the Dorset area and would give the young players the experienced insight into what is needed to achieve a premier league experience starting from League One.
But then he may just wait for his mate to get the Palace job.
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 16, 2021 7:26:13 GMT
We could also do with him upfront...even at his age!!
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 16, 2021 1:49:32 GMT
This all seems a bit Handforth Parish Council (from what I've seen of the story over here).
Gossip posted on a public forum masquerading as intel then proved wrong in the space of hours. No big deal, that's what forums are all about. Just delete the thread.
The only thing that's apparent is the OP showing that he doesn't know all the audience to get away with posting untruths without offence.
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 14, 2021 12:00:41 GMT
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 13, 2021 23:43:43 GMT
I'm actually quite sure millions of Britons think it really quite ridiculous,the kneeling down thing.I am equally sure they are not screaming racists. We live in very strange times indeed. If the players choose to do it, so be it. If they dont, so be it. Some people seem to get uptight about players making a free choice to do it though because they equate it with something else There are other arguably more oppressed groups in the world that arguably warrant more attention. I wonder if this wokeness from footballers will extend to the truely oppressed in the world.
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 11, 2021 22:04:59 GMT
Hadn’t exactly got a good track record ‘working’ with younger players. We do however need a firefighter for the remaining games.
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 11, 2021 21:53:21 GMT
Here is my 2 penneth Tisdale did worse than Garner, the striker was a clear need ahead of a keeper and right back from day one, we should have had one tapped up, pre-signed and signed by 1st Jan, the upshot of this is that we haven't won since then. We are allowed to go down in the same way we are allowed to do well. I think he lost the dressing room and didn't work to his potential concentrating more on players not celebrating goals than the basics of defending and creating chances. This squad is capable but he was the wrong man. His attitude was wrong in press conferences, the fact that he might not feel backed is very naive of him in today's football, he knew what he was letting himself in for. We looked like getting a semblance of consistency at home after wins v Plymouth and Blackpool, the Charlton game was the start of the real slide for me. That horrific corner, the fact that it's ok for a player to leave it for his keeper. We were in that game and the confidence seemed to drain from the squad, especially forward players from that moment. Then came the defence, the Rochdale game was unacceptable a real chance to pick up 3 pts at home and it just seemed ok to lose, Accrington was the nadir and he got what he deserved for a lack of preparation. He takes full responsibility for that result and performance. Let's see a reaction, 4 pts from the next 2 games will see that. 1 point, goodbye. Garner did better in the first 10 games. His binning of Harries and Tutonda was strange. I don't feel he was unfortunate or unlucky in any way, some might say now lucky to get as many points as we did. Good riddance. Make the next one a good one please Wael, I still back you because you have saved our club, but we stilm have a chance of staying up, look at Shrewsbury, look at how Cardiff have gone for a 'dinosaur', maybe we should have got Cotterill. Agree about Cotterill but so did SH & look what happened I even think Cotterill would have struggled getting as much out of the team given the wider environment of the club. When was the last time a board member had to become a caretaker manager in the English league? Wasn't it Ron Noades at Brentford?
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 11, 2021 2:27:21 GMT
I had this nightmare of Martin Allen walking through the Mem Gates before the end of the month. Imagine that!!
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 11, 2021 2:25:55 GMT
Yes, Burton have won 2 in 3 having invested in 9 new players and look what happens bottom beat top, Hull. We could and should have got fresh faces in last month on a larger scale than what we did. Yes. it’s baffling we didn’t, if they really care about the drop. simply baffling. We Were Burton at the start of the season - didn't we sign something like 11 players? I bet we were the envy of the division - much like Bury were a few seasons before us and then looked what happened to them!!
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