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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 17, 2024 15:11:59 GMT
Picture 1 - "Did you know my Dad was a toolmaker?" Picture 2 - "Did you know my Dad was a toolmaker?" Picture 3 - "Did you know my Dad was a toolmaker?" Picture 4 - "You'll never guess what my Dad's job was!" Yeah but our "Nige". He is going to stop all those nasty foreigners coming here, especially Muslims. 😂😂 No, you have got it totally wrong again. The Immigration Policy of Reform is Net Zero Immigration, which means one out, one in. As 600,000 people per year leave the UK this will allow for 600,000 people to legally migrate to the UK.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 17, 2024 15:09:32 GMT
If that is what you believe then is it any wonder you lost the vote ! That's true, it's very hard to debate with ignorance. Is there any need for that?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 17, 2024 15:08:26 GMT
ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/1440/cpsprodpb/B8F1/production/_133454374_farage-hero2.pngReform UK leader Nigel Farage has launched the party's election pledges in Merthyr Tydfil, south Wales The party calls the pledges a "contract" with the voters - arguing the word "manifesto" has been devalued The pledges include no income tax for people earning less than £20,000, and leaving the European Convention on Human Rights Labour is today campaigning on the economy - saying its plans would create 650,000 jobs At a meeting in London, shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves tells business leaders their "fingers are all over" the Labour manifesto Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, who's campaigning around Yorkshire and the East Midlands, insists the Conservatives can still win the election ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/17/d7e43871-c4d2-4683-b095-64500fc892f8.jpgAfter Nigel Farage's speech, Reform UK chairman Richard Tice starts talking about how his party will fund its plans. He says "unfunded spending" has got the UK "into a right pickle", and warns about the size of the fiscal deficit. He then moves on to the costs of reducing carbon emissions, saying "if you scrap net zero" the savings for the taxpayer will be around £30bn a year for 25 years - or about £600 per adult. "We're the only party that has the courage to say this is unfunded spending, it's costing us a fortune, it's not going to save the planet, and it's got to stop," he says. He says taxes have risen but the quality of public services has not, saying "you've got to cut out the waste from the back office and invest it in the front office", adding it's "nonsense" to say savings can't be made in the public sector. ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/17/69200406-c133-4763-a352-8a9a89a55435.jpgNigel Farage is now taking questions from the media with the first one from the BBC's Alex Forsyth. She asks if his 24-page plan is simply a wish list, rather than a plan, as he is proposing a whole load of popular ideas that he hopes will get votes? "It is a promise," Farage says, and this is what we are going to campaign on over the next five years. "These are the principles, these are the issues," he says. "We are not going to be in government this time round," Farage accepts, "but we are going to provide a voice of opposition." Farage is then asked whether the pledges made in the Reform UK manifesto, or contract, are unserious. To which Farage says "it's radical, it's fresh thinking". "Britain is broken, Britain needs reform," Farage adds, saying that his party is "unashamedly radical". ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/17/aba5fb90-8c84-41fb-a26a-fa595229b213.jpg The launch was absolutely hilarious, he might as well have said "free beer for everyone, but no imported German stuff" How could anyone take this stuff seriously? He can come out with this guff because he knows he will never have to deliver it. Incredible really, that anyone would consider this lot a serious option Ha, ha, ha, I love your concern and biased hatred! Nobody is taking Reform "seriously" as such. We are all aware that they will not get many seats. This is a long-term plan, however the Reform of this country and the way it is governed has to start somewhere. But seriously, you must be happy with the way the country has been ran over the last 50 years as you support the status quo. You must be happy for Labour to come out with their pack of lies as you seem to consider it "proper and reasoned"! and you want us to take you seriously?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 17, 2024 15:04:17 GMT
Picture 1 - "Did you know my Dad was a toolmaker?" Picture 2 - "Did you know my Dad was a toolmaker?" Picture 3 - "Did you know my Dad was a toolmaker?" Picture 4 - "You'll never guess what my Dad's job was!"
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 17, 2024 15:02:27 GMT
Nobby "When my constituency voted leave it was purely because of immigration.” - Well, she has got that totally wrong. Only a complete fool would say people voted for Brexit purely because of immigration. Yes it was. There was no other coherent argument, economically or constitutionally. And so it has come to pass. If that is what you believe then is it any wonder you lost the vote !
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 17, 2024 13:44:11 GMT
Labour vows to ‘improve’ Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal Rachel Reeves pledges to ‘boost EU ties’ by striking trade deals in various sectors and increasing foreign policy cooperation James Crisp, EUROPE EDITOR 17 June 2024 • 11:06am Shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves in the City - Rachel Reeves has pledged to forge closer ties with the European Union if Labour wins the general election. The shadow chancellor said she wanted to improve the UK-EU trade deal agreed by Boris Johnson’s government in 2020. “We would look to improve our trading relationship with Europe, and do trade deals around the world,” she told the Financial Times. Ms Reeves said that Labour would look to strike deals in the chemical and veterinary sectors and would reset the UK’s global image after the Brexit years. Advertisement “I don’t think anyone voted Leave because they were not happy that chemicals regulations were the same across Europe,” she said. “When my constituency voted leave it was purely because of immigration.” Labour would also try to secure better touring rights for UK artists and greater mutual recognition of qualifications for financial services workers, she added. “That’s not exclusive,” she said. Labour is also expected to increase foreign policy and security cooperation with the EU if elected on July 4. Labour has been reluctant to discuss Brexit in the election campaign for fear of alienating returning Red Wall voters, but has had a consistent 20-point lead ahead of the Tories. The party insists its red lines are that it will not rejoin the EU’s single market or customs union and that freedom of movement or any deal on youth mobility is also off the Get ready for millions more muzzies arriving 😡😡😡 At last. Proper, considered direction. Instead of chucking rancid meat to they baying hyenas. "When my constituency voted leave it was purely because of immigration.” - Well, she has got that totally wrong. Only a complete fool would say people voted for Brexit purely because of immigration. "Labour would also try to secure better touring rights for UK artists and greater mutual recognition of qualifications for financial services workers, she added." - When I was living in Germany there were many many British acts on the local music scene. It didn't seem to be a problem. Also, there was no problem with British workers in the Financial Services working there. I should know, I was one of them! I still work there! "“We would look to improve our trading relationship with Europe, and do trade deals around the world,” she told the Financial Times." - Hang on Oldie, you have been telling us that every single Trade Deal the UK has signed was pretty much worthless! What will make Trade Deals signed by Labour be any better in your opinion? "“That’s not exclusive,” she said. Labour is also expected to increase foreign policy and security cooperation with the EU if elected on July 4." - We were sending weapons and aid to Ukraine while the EU were still talking about it. In fact, the aircraft delivering this were forced to re-route around Germany as Germans would not allow them to overfly Germany. and you say this is proper, considered direction? In my opinion it's just good old fashioned lying, or should we say economical with the truth?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 17, 2024 7:29:59 GMT
I thought what happened was entirely predictable. England offered no threat whatsoever down the left in the first half. Foden didn't stay wide and went inside and we have a right-footed left full-back. It was pretty obvious that the Serbian coach would do something to stop Saka, as that was our main threat in the first half, and that is what he did the second half. Then England had no threat whatsoever down either flank, with Harry Kane double marked in the middle. What Southgate should have done was to be aware that the Serbian coach would do this, so introduce some threat down the left! Southgate should have been pro-active, but it does seem as though he is unable to do this. I think every Sunday League manager could see what would happen in the second-half! It was crying out for Eze to be brought on on the left, or heaven's forbid, a Jack Grealish?
and why oh why do so many England players, when they receive the ball, stand still with their foot on top of that ball, pointing at other players and spaces etc. When you are stood still with the ball you are going nowhere and doing nothing.
We will not win a thing with a right-back playing left-back! We should have taken Dennis Mitchell from Palace!
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 17, 2024 6:08:56 GMT
This was one of the biggest changes that I noticed when I returned to live in the UK.I In my opinion this is all part of the drive towards a digital currency which I feel is dangerous.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 16, 2024 7:15:57 GMT
This was in response to the Law & Order question, not what we talked about earlier. Why is it 'trash'? Give us your reasoning. Once again though, what have the Tories or Labour given us apart from the tired old "we will create 5000/6000/7000 more Police." . To just say it's "trash" is pretty pointless isn't it. Tell us why you think that. Ok then (Policing and crime:- Increase police numbers) Where? what specific objective? and how are they going to fund that. (Enforcement of ‘zero tolerance’ policing) What does that mean and how does that translate in the "street"? (Review of police leadership teams) Review what? (Abolish all diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations) To what end or objective? (Automatic life imprisonment for violent offenders) Under which law and in which prisons when we are practicing early release due to a lack of space? (High intensity training camps for young offenders) 😂😂😂, really. (Its immediate law and order objectives include the start of an increase in police numbers that would see 40,000 new officers over the course of a five-year parliament.) See above, where and how is this funded? (Reform UK also wants to cut down on cash-only barbershops, which the party claims are a front for money laundering after experts and senior industry figures warned some of the traders engage in illegal activity and undercut honest traders in communities. The Reform manifesto states that “foreign gang crime” accounts for most organised crime in the UK at a cost of £37 billion per year, adding: “This includes drugs, people trafficking and money laundering through barbershops, car washes and nail bars.”) Really It's Trash Nobby, ill considered, barely thought through and just a series of sound bites. Typical populist trash, and opiate for the frustrated and ill informed So, what are the future Labour Government saying? They call it, "take back our streets" which seems to suggest we have 'lost our streets'. Labour Manifesto "
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 16, 2024 7:11:47 GMT
"Deliberately muddling the waters by not talking about Labours "attitude" is exactly the kind of wishy washy s**t Britons are sick of. " - Exactly this.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 15, 2024 22:09:05 GMT
And just what have Labour and the Tories said? A few posts back you picked out parts of what Labour had said and asked me what I thought. I responded. But to the point, this is trash Nobby. This was in response to the Law & Order question, not what we talked about earlier. Why is it 'trash'? Give us your reasoning. Once again though, what have the Tories or Labour given us apart from the tired old "we will create 5000/6000/7000 more Police." . To just say it's "trash" is pretty pointless isn't it. Tell us why you think that.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 15, 2024 17:31:11 GMT
Here you go:- ""Policing and crime:- Increase police numbers Enforcement of ‘zero tolerance’ policing Review of police leadership teams Abolish all diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations Automatic life imprisonment for violent offenders High intensity training camps for young offenders Reform has accused the Government of being “soft on crime” and paints a picture of “badly failing” police leadership, citing a collapse in charging rates to around five per cent. Its immediate law and order objectives include the start of an increase in police numbers that would see 40,000 new officers over the course of a five-year parliament. “Zero tolerance” policing, which the party said has been a success in New York, would mean offenders received jail sentences for all violent crimes and the possession of a knife. A new offence of substantial possession of drugs would lead to heavy fines, while the use of stop-and-search would be vastly expanded, with Reform hailing it as a “proven deterrent to knife crime”. Police leadership teams would be reviewed and where necessary replaced, with a “strong preference” for military veterans. All diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations would be abolished in an attempt to stop what Mr Tice referred to in his spring conference speech as “two-tier policing”. Police and Crime Commissioners would either be scrapped or reformed – “either they get the power to make a real change or they should go” – and degree-standard entry would be replaced with entrance exams, while officers would have to complete two years of probation. Violent offenders would receive automatic life imprisonment as part of an urgent review. The definition of hate crime would be changed in order to require “proper evidence”, pro-Palestinian marches banned using existing powers, 10,000 new detention places created and the budget of the National Crime Agency increased to tackle foreign gang crime. Young offenders, meanwhile, would face high intensity training camps that would reopen to offer “basic education, training and values… [This model] is needed more than ever.” Reform UK also wants to cut down on cash-only barbershops, which the party claims are a front for money laundering after experts and senior industry figures warned some of the traders engage in illegal activity and undercut honest traders in communities. The Reform manifesto states that “foreign gang crime” accounts for most organised crime in the UK at a cost of £37 billion per year, adding: “This includes drugs, people trafficking and money laundering through barbershops, car washes and nail bars.”" 😂😂😂 You can tell a lot of thought has gone into that 🤔🤔 Reads like "our Nige" was stood at the bar having a pint and was asked a question whereupon he pulled out an envelope and "brain dumped" a series of random thoughts. And just what have Labour and the Tories said?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 15, 2024 12:25:29 GMT
I want to hear more from Farage about law and order and what Reform intend to do about crime which for a lot of people who live in cities is a huge issue. Here you go:- ""Policing and crime:- Increase police numbers Enforcement of ‘zero tolerance’ policing Review of police leadership teams Abolish all diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations Automatic life imprisonment for violent offenders High intensity training camps for young offenders Reform has accused the Government of being “soft on crime” and paints a picture of “badly failing” police leadership, citing a collapse in charging rates to around five per cent. Its immediate law and order objectives include the start of an increase in police numbers that would see 40,000 new officers over the course of a five-year parliament. “Zero tolerance” policing, which the party said has been a success in New York, would mean offenders received jail sentences for all violent crimes and the possession of a knife. A new offence of substantial possession of drugs would lead to heavy fines, while the use of stop-and-search would be vastly expanded, with Reform hailing it as a “proven deterrent to knife crime”. Police leadership teams would be reviewed and where necessary replaced, with a “strong preference” for military veterans. All diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations would be abolished in an attempt to stop what Mr Tice referred to in his spring conference speech as “two-tier policing”. Police and Crime Commissioners would either be scrapped or reformed – “either they get the power to make a real change or they should go” – and degree-standard entry would be replaced with entrance exams, while officers would have to complete two years of probation. Violent offenders would receive automatic life imprisonment as part of an urgent review. The definition of hate crime would be changed in order to require “proper evidence”, pro-Palestinian marches banned using existing powers, 10,000 new detention places created and the budget of the National Crime Agency increased to tackle foreign gang crime. Young offenders, meanwhile, would face high intensity training camps that would reopen to offer “basic education, training and values… [This model] is needed more than ever.” Reform UK also wants to cut down on cash-only barbershops, which the party claims are a front for money laundering after experts and senior industry figures warned some of the traders engage in illegal activity and undercut honest traders in communities. The Reform manifesto states that “foreign gang crime” accounts for most organised crime in the UK at a cost of £37 billion per year, adding: “This includes drugs, people trafficking and money laundering through barbershops, car washes and nail bars.”"
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 14, 2024 22:46:18 GMT
Your obsession with the Reform Party, who look like winning two or three seats, is quite worrying. Why are you not holding the flame to Labour and their policies as they will be forming the next government? The only questions left are, who will form the official opposition, the Tories or Lib Dems. Who will pick up the greater amount of votes, the Tories or Reform. Those are the two battles being decided.
For example, do you think imposing VAT on Private Schools is good economics, or just an ideological action? Does the UK need another Border Agency? Is it feasible to promise 1.5 million new homes when the average built in any year is about 160,000? What will this new British Energy Company do, when it will not produce any actual energy? What tax rises are Labour hiding? Why doesn't Labour have a plan for illegal immigrants?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 14, 2024 16:20:07 GMT
I understand that the F-16's will start coming online soon. That will be interesting.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 14, 2024 16:01:47 GMT
14 years of Centre Right/Right rule leaves us with this "When the British left the European Union, they fantasized about forging a close relationship with the United States, almost becoming the 51st state. Were that to happen, it is surely sobering to Britons to realize that they would find themselves in the 51st poorest state in the union, with a per capita gross domestic product below that of Mississippi" Talking of Tech with Nobby, this is so true, a case for an integrated single market if I ever read one. "Technology is a good prism through which to understand the challenge. To create powerful digital companies, you need three factors — great engineering talent, easy access to capital and a large market into which you can quickly deploy the new products (scale). The United States has all three, as does China. Europe has some of the world’s most talented engineers. It has access to capital. But it is not a single market despite often being described as such. Tech entrepreneurs struggle to navigate 27 different markets with different regulations, authorities, standards and requirements. This is why, as the Letta report notes, Europe is home to 33 trillion euros of private savings but every year 300 billion euros is diverted to overseas markets to find superior investments, most of them in the United States." Boom. Full article here www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/06/14/europe-competition-economy-reform-populism/We keep saying it. Nobody has a problem with a Single Market. Maybe we should call it something like....um...err.....The Common Market. It's the politicalization of the EU project that people object to.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 14, 2024 14:13:20 GMT
Seriously, do you think any British Government would have the knowledge/skills/foresight to do something that Amazon are just starting to do? Not only that but Amazon are one of the world leaders with Cloud development. Yeah I know. I am sat here in the heart of Amazon land, in Washington State My daughter in law works at Amazon in Generative AI. Some very interesting conversations about where this is going. I also have a friend who is very very senior in AWS.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 14, 2024 13:47:29 GMT
Seriously, do you think any British Government would have the knowledge/skills/foresight to do something that Amazon are just starting to do? Not only that but Amazon are one of the world leaders with Cloud development.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 14, 2024 12:01:59 GMT
It is still interesting how the subject of Brexit is being avoided by both Labour and Tory parties. The Tories have purged their ranks of the main Brexiteers. It seems as they both know it's a subject where eventually they want to take the UK back into the EU, but they both know it is something the public don't want, so they just don't talk about it. The subject defined the last GE. This time around it barely gets a mention.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 14, 2024 11:57:05 GMT
So Reform polling at about 19 or 20%. The opinion seems to be they have to reach around 23% before gaining any seats above the two they may win if it stays at it's current percentage. If they reach 26% then they will make serious inroads.
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