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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Mar 6, 2016 12:52:25 GMT
When a new Uni is started, it seems fair enough that the buildings etc are put up by the state but strange that it then owns all the land or does it? Wasn't most of this land owned by Hewlett Packard at one stage, who were given it by the local authority? |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Mar 6, 2016 12:49:45 GMT
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I don't get this Ben. Not really. Its quite simple. There was an agreement in place that for the £1m plus supporters got two EXECUTIVE directorships. If, as Brian now tells us, he was disallowed from operating as an executive director, he should have told us, and gave us an option. He should have resigned immediately. That he did not has no ryme nor reason, except self interest. Whatever conclusion can there be? I'm sure with all this dissatisfaction with Brian we'll have a lot of people standing to replace him when he is up for reelection. But it would be interesting if the new owners seek to purchase the Sharescheme shares what provision was included in the agreement for that potential situation? |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Mar 6, 2016 12:27:13 GMT
Fair play to Brian coming on here & explaining the difficulties he & Ken faced. I have absolutely no doubt that had he said this under the previous owners then the relationship with the Sharescheme would've been irrevocably changed to the detriment of those who have paid into this donation scheme.
However I also suspect that over time the new owners will probably opt not to have 2 fans directors in the boardroom. I also suspect they only originally purchased the 92% of shares held by major shareholders to keep a lid on their plans, had they brought out all the shareholders then the plans would've been divulged by someone earlier than they desired.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Mar 6, 2016 10:13:17 GMT
Well said and I am disappointed that it still looks like some will not let go. I really hope that we can ALL move on. I fully understamd about not forgetting but, if we continually carry on looking to apportion blame and to rack up points on some kind of honour theory, then we will just be going around in ever decreasing circles. For example, Brian was up for re-election and people had the chance to vote for the other guy but they didn't. There is that honour thing up in flames. There has always been the discontent on this topic but the reality is that after some promising starts and even meetings, none of us ever really bothered to DO anything and that sums it up, for me in anycase. Had Brian resigned then would he now be in a position to do anything ? I have had to learn that it's all well and good to be able to look yourself in the eye and really know you are a man of integrity BUT others don't really care and it's an exersize in futility. All that happens is some get more bitter while others carry on, as they always did Anyway, I am done with this now and will leave it at that. I really do hope that those that still harbour some kind of grudge, can let go in the view of the greater good. It's not that hard really and those of us that wanted to see Herr Higgs out, have lived to see that and I am very happy at that. It is more than. I ever allowed myself to dream about but it looks like some are not done with that. I have absolutely no issues with Brian resuming his proper role as a director and wish him all the best for the future. I do have a private issue with Brian and it will remain that as it has absolutely nothing to do with Bristol Rovers or any other supporter. Any issues with me and Bristol Rovers football club were buried last Saturday and I feel very positive for the future of the club and for the supporters. If it's a private issue why bring it up on here? Just back posting & its the same 'I know more than you' crap that you always posted before. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Mar 4, 2016 13:21:53 GMT
Is it divisive that people go to different pubs, lounge bars, or coffee shops before the game, as per preference of company and ambience - or even go straight to the game - rather than all going to the clubhouse and having their conversations approved by the club? Fortunately, the club doesn't seem to want to spend its time on that. Lounge bar? Think he's talking about the Vic |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Mar 3, 2016 21:06:32 GMT
I think much of the dislike was generated from various episodes over the years; Warnock who is/was a pillock, the disallowed goal for Notts, the throw-in they didn't give back.
Either way its about time we won there and their fans are seething at their new manager and board so might be a good time to play them, if we turn up!
DC - Please go there to win and play to our own strengths instead of trying to contain, as it hasn't worked in the last 3 away games. What's that good Rovers man done to upset them? |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Mar 2, 2016 16:20:02 GMT
These people are amazing, hope someone is coming in to generate the income to cover all the new costs we seem to be racking up
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Mar 2, 2016 15:33:42 GMT
I hope the Club have taken the name and number of Hartlepools no8, really impressed by him last night. Big, athletic,good in the air and on ground. Hell of a free-kick, the bars still wobbling 24 hrs later. If they go down snap him up. Think he hit the post too? Bar, post & setup their goal with a beautiful ball. Was thinking walking out last night that he'd be a player to look at for next year. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Mar 1, 2016 23:34:04 GMT
Do you often forget the score in the middle of the match? Junior Agogo did, he thought we were winning and ran the ball into the corner when we were actually drawing.  I've always presumed one of Kp and Junior were intelligent! |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Mar 1, 2016 20:44:42 GMT
Get the bloody scoreboard fixed. I was to,d we could t do it as it cost a couple of grand. It really is a poor show not having that running and a simple fix Do you often forget the score in the middle of the match? |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Mar 1, 2016 15:20:54 GMT
Afternoon Gas, I write in regards to the very forum on which I'm posting this - Gasheads.org. Something that greatly irritated me, as I'm sure it did all of us, was the shutdown of the BRFC fans forum on the offical club website many moons ago. No doubt another one of Higgs' cunning schemes to get fans onside by suppressing their right to be critical of their own club, but alas since - let's call it 'Watertightgate' - I haven't gone back to it. Despite this straight red card in the face of fan feedback and basic democracy, I can't help but feel that having the prime forum for all things BRFC as here on Gasheads.org divides the fanbase. One of the first things that came to mind when Higgs jumped ship from SS Administration was 'hang on, does this mean we get our posting rights back?'. I grew up with glee listening to losses to Rushden and Diamonds on the Gasplayer Radio, shovelling what was then Division 3 s***e with the promise from my dad that things would get better and Ray Graydon might disappear mysteriously. But the point was that it was on a central forum and no matter how bad it got all Gas were united in the same place. I visit here each lunchtime at work, rarely posting but enjoying perusing what threads are under discussion. Checking just before posting this, Gas Guzzler has accumulated just over 94,000 posts and I can't shake the feeling that if we were to focus our passion back onto a central, 'official' forum it would let the new board see the faith we've got in the blue and white quarters and willingness to back them. Rather than portraying us as different branches of supporters drifting off into offcast rebel groups, we should be seen as a united largescale fanbase who backs their club to the hilt and enthusiastically embraces the new ownership. It would be a significant gesture to return to something that was ruled by the previous board with an Orwellian authority, and ideally I would have all of the threads we've built on here moved back to the official forums and let us take it from there in one accessible place. I am not asking for the death of Gasheads.org, I am just putting out there my thoughts on moving things back to the official site and invite your thoughts on the topic... Churz What haven't you gone back to? The official forum? Doubtful as that doesn't exist in any form now and probably for the best as well (think many clubs for legal reasons stepped away from hosting a forum). |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Feb 29, 2016 15:39:42 GMT
“We want this to be an all inclusive Club and to embrace our fans, not isolate them. This is a new beginning for us all and we hope our supporters will be behind us all the way."
That is absolutely the way things should be. That attitude has been sadly lacking for 10 years or more, but at last it looks as if we might be back on track  Going to start going to games again now then? |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Feb 24, 2016 21:59:55 GMT
One, the page was linked (but you knew that). Still trying to get my head around it. It seems a very odd person to try and get on board. PR company but lets just say, some of the stories are at best tactless. To be honest more interested in the merchandise side as this is where I think we are not making what we could. I always thought Brian Seymour Smith ran a PR Consultancy, perhaps WAQ doesn't fancy him...... There was another bloke as well that I couldn't even guess at his name, maybe London based? |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Feb 24, 2016 21:47:47 GMT
We've just been purchased by, hopefully, knowledgeable businessmen and people seriously think they are going to cover £10-15m worth of land with plastic grass? I'm pissed but obviously not as pissed as some posting on here. Realistic training grounds cribbs, I'll throw in the PBA club at Shire. Anymore sensible suggestions appreciated .
PS College Green isn't big enough
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Feb 24, 2016 19:18:25 GMT
As someone who has a banking connection I can't imagine the Wonga loan will be around at that interest rate a moment longer than it legally has to be. That was only part of the debt, though. And the rest due to ex-directors, which I'm sure will have been settled or cancelled as part of the deal(because why would you leave yourself exposed to them?), and a possible future debt to Sainsbury's (still up for debate). |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Feb 24, 2016 18:46:03 GMT
I don't think the debt has been cleared. I think the quote was that it will be cleared over time. Secondly, whilst not referring to UWE in name I think they are committed (surely one of the key attractions of the club was that we have PP in place to Bulild) but clearly want to have maximum negotiating power with UWE to renogotiate the deal. Eg. Freehold and additional land. On the radio last Friday I'm sure the mention was All debts have been cleared, we are debt free......I'm sure I heard that?? As someone who has a banking connection I can't imagine the Wonga loan will be around at that interest rate a moment longer than it legally has to be. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Feb 24, 2016 17:18:06 GMT
Why would that be?There is no indication of a new share issue so if the SC had 8% prior to the take over then they still have 8% regardless of paying off debts or buying the board out.As for how much changed hands that is between the sellers and buyers and in all honesty nothing to do with anyone else I thought the Share Scheme Holding was more like 2 percent now. It had been so diluted down over the years by share issues. I vaguely remember that in the mists of time, but I may be wrong. Interesting to know what the other shareholdings are left if that is the case. I can't see the odd fan share holding adding up to a further 6 percent. Also I have no idea what the Share Scheme Agreement says, but a majority shareholder of 92 percent can presumably 'force' the sale of the minority shareholdings now I presume. What value is that shareholding now, what would the SC do with the money (if much of anything)? It presumably wont be valued at what they bought the shares for? or will it. Should they sit tight as we proceed into the world's new super club. It will be interesting to see how the SC interacts with a very different (and might I say probably more professional) board set up now. They probably can force through the purchase of the remaining shares. To open up a can of worms I'm confident that there will be nothing in the sharescheme agreement that covered the outrageous possibility that the shares could actually be sold or in possibly this case forced purchase. Let alone what to do with the proceeds, who could've imagined that happening? |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Feb 24, 2016 17:12:19 GMT
Slightly off topic but it would be very interesting to know how much has already been invested to buy the club. I must admit I found the debt and ownership structure in the June 2015 accounts confusing. It will be interesting to compare the figures @ June 2016 and see whether they give any clue as to how much cash changed hands at take over. As the true value of the Mem is considerably higher than the valuation shown in the accounts, it is possible that the outgoing directors left with a little bonus. However, I would like to think they simply took what they were owed. Given that someone has retained an 8% shareholding it seems likely that not everyone was fully repaid. isn't that the supporters club holding? I believe it's the supporters club shareholding, why else would Ken & Brian be retained on the board, but also the shareholding of individual fans that have been purchased over the years, this possibly happened so that those individuals didn't get wind of the sale & break the news first. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Feb 24, 2016 7:27:42 GMT
How many tweets did that take JPM? One, the page was linked (but you knew that). Still trying to get my head around it. It seems a very odd person to try and get on board. PR company but lets just say, some of the stories are at best tactless. To be honest more interested in the merchandise side as this is where I think we are not making what we could. More of a joke with friends who know I don't use Twitter. Agreed on merchandise it seems to me we are making a lot of new non-playing appointments that are going to be increasing the business costs. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Feb 23, 2016 21:54:20 GMT
How many tweets did that take JPM?
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