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Post by bluetornados on Aug 16, 2021 16:09:47 GMT
Bayern Munich and Germany legend Gerd Muller has died at the age of 75, he played in 779 total career games, scoring 723 goals.
One of the best strikers in history, Muller scored 68 goals in 62 appearances for West Germany, including the winning goal in the 1974 World Cup final against the Netherlands.
He also scored 547 goals in 594 competitive games during 15 years at Bundesliga giants Bayern.
"Today is a sad, black day for FC Bayern and all of its fans," Bayern president Herbert Hainer said.
"Gerd Muller was the greatest striker there has ever been - and a fine person, a personality in world football. We are united in deep sorrow with his wife Uschi and his family.
"Without Gerd Muller, FC Bayern would not be the club we all love today. His name and the memory of him will live on forever."
Muller, a two times German footballer of the year, won the Golden Boot for netting 10 goals at the 1970 World Cup and also won the Ballon d'Or that year.
He helped West Germany win the European Championship two years later, scoring twice in a 3-0 win against the Soviet Union in the final.
"The news of Gerd Muller's death deeply saddens us all," Bayern chief executive Oliver Kahn said.
"He's one of the greatest legends in the history of FC Bayern, his achievements are unrivalled to this day and will forever be a part of the great history of FC Bayern and all of German football.
"As a player and a person, Gerd Muller stands for FC Bayern and its development into one of the biggest clubs in the world like no other. Gerd will forever be in our hearts."
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 16, 2021 21:16:15 GMT
I guess we have different sensibilities. For me, this one is appropriate for someone well-known and respected, but not emotionally close Did other posters feelings come to mind. There's a lack of respect in the thread title.A lack of consideration to other people's feelings. Edit.Granted,rich coming from me. I agree Bas. We probably need a decent template thread title for former footballers/managers who have died. Respect. |
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Post by a more piratey game on Aug 16, 2021 21:20:13 GMT
Did other posters feelings come to mind. There's a lack of respect in the thread title.A lack of consideration to other people's feelings. Edit.Granted,rich coming from me. I agree Bas. We probably need a decent template thread title for former footballers/managers who have died. Respect. I will be interested to see how you deliver on that... |
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Post by Angas on Aug 16, 2021 21:53:21 GMT
The name followed by RIP seems fine to me.
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Post by a more piratey game on Aug 16, 2021 22:09:24 GMT
The name followed by RIP seems fine to me. Is it obligatory to wish that they rip then? If so it doesn't work for me |
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Post by Angas on Aug 16, 2021 22:27:50 GMT
Ah, ok, fair point. Over to epping then.
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 17, 2021 8:10:56 GMT
Ah, ok, fair point. Over to epping then. Moral minefield. I guess if you are going to start a thread about someone who has died... you are probably going to type RIP. So if someone starts one without "RIP", unless it's a particularly heinous character (and there's not too many of them), I'll add it. I can't see what harm that can do. I can't see why anyone would be offended. If I see a funeral cortege pass, I stop and bow my head. I don't know the person who has died. It's just respectful. So it's kind of an extension of that. |
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 17, 2021 8:14:14 GMT
LOL. Just realised that NAPAB started the thread. Now I have committed myself to altering the title that he wrote, potentially causing upset. You OK with that NAPAB?
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Post by a more piratey game on Aug 17, 2021 8:16:59 GMT
LOL. Just realised that NAPAB started the thread. Now I have committed myself to altering the title that he wrote, potentially causing upset. You OK with that NAPAB? No not really eg Quite happy with my words as they was wrote. Don't want them reshaped by snowflakes :-) |
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Post by a more piratey game on Aug 17, 2021 8:18:07 GMT
PS. Took me a while to realise I'm NAPAB
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 17, 2021 8:23:09 GMT
PS. Took me a while to realise I'm NAPAB For someone who usually comes across as thoughtful and articulate, I think the thread title comes across as written by someone using a very heavy, blunt instrument. Rather than as I would expect, the eloquent flick of a quill pen. Over to Angas to adjudicate. |
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Post by absent on Aug 17, 2021 8:46:22 GMT
Ah, ok, fair point. Over to epping then. Moral minefield. I guess if you are going to start a thread about someone who has died... you are probably going to type RIP. So if someone starts one without "RIP", unless it's a particularly heinous character (and there's not too many of them), I'll add it. Why though? |
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 17, 2021 8:54:13 GMT
Moral minefield. I guess if you are going to start a thread about someone who has died... you are probably going to type RIP. So if someone starts one without "RIP", unless it's a particularly heinous character (and there's not too many of them), I'll add it. Why though? Because it is respectful? |
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Post by a more piratey game on Aug 17, 2021 8:54:41 GMT
Ah, ok, fair point. Over to epping then. Moral minefield. I guess if you are going to start a thread about someone who has died... you are probably going to type RIP. So if someone starts one without "RIP", unless it's a particularly heinous character (and there's not too many of them), I'll add it. I can't see what harm that can do. I can't see why anyone would be offended. If I see a funeral cortege pass, I stop and bow my head. I don't know the person who has died. It's just respectful. So it's kind of an extension of that. I find that cortege example helpful in understanding the desire to add RIP or similar, not least because it isn't mawkish I don't see the need to prescribe it for others though One of the main differences is closeness (or immediacy). If a cortege is passing their are friends or rellies of the deceased, and the gesture is, I'd suggest, as much aimed to help them as at anything else But a man a couple of countries away, with no particular connection to our community (save maybe really pissing us off with his abilities one day in 1970), is not the same I put it on here as recognition of what he added to football, rather than to a more localised 'us' |
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 17, 2021 8:55:11 GMT
I'm only Admin. Angas is the moral compass of the forum...
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Post by mangogas15 on Aug 17, 2021 8:57:17 GMT
It seems to be just another american..ism that has crept in to the way journo's report peoples passing in this country. I have noticed this a lot recently over here that rather than saying so ans so has sadly passed away or has died it seems somehow fashionably abrupt to say so and so ' Dead at 50' or whatever ' I can't say that I am a fan and perhaps we should leave that style of reporting well within the American's locker. Has died is better than is dead |
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Post by mangogas15 on Aug 17, 2021 8:58:48 GMT
Because it is respectful? TBH just the name would be a decent tribute?? |
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 17, 2021 9:09:48 GMT
It seems to be just another american..ism that has crept in to the way journo's report peoples passing in this country. I have noticed this a lot recently over here that rather than saying so ans so has sadly passed away or has died it seems somehow fashionably abrupt to say so and so ' Dead at 50' or whatever ' I can't say that I am a fan and perhaps we should leave that style of reporting well within the American's locker. Has died is better than is dead I was thinking exactly the same. Language (and particularly the written word) is full of subtle nuances. I agree with Delsy. Clumsy thoughtless American journalism. Embraced by some. Not by me. |
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Post by mangogas15 on Aug 17, 2021 10:08:24 GMT
Has died is better than is dead I was thinking exactly the same. Language (and particularly the written word) is full of subtle nuances. I agree with Delsy. Clumsy thoughtless American journalism. Embraced by some. Not by me. American journalism was started by British soldiers in the independence war... |
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 17, 2021 13:40:48 GMT
Moral minefield. I guess if you are going to start a thread about someone who has died... you are probably going to type RIP. So if someone starts one without "RIP", unless it's a particularly heinous character (and there's not too many of them), I'll add it. I can't see what harm that can do. I can't see why anyone would be offended. If I see a funeral cortege pass, I stop and bow my head. I don't know the person who has died. It's just respectful. So it's kind of an extension of that. I find that cortege example helpful in understanding the desire to add RIP or similar, not least because it isn't mawkish I don't see the need to prescribe it for others though One of the main differences is closeness (or immediacy). If a cortege is passing their are friends or rellies of the deceased, and the gesture is, I'd suggest, as much aimed to help them as at anything else But a man a couple of countries away, with no particular connection to our community (save maybe really pissing us off with his abilities one day in 1970), is not the same I put it on here as recognition of what he added to football, rather than to a more localised 'us' Isn't "us" the wider footballing community? We are an extended family... well that's how I like to see it. |
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