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Post by texasgas on Aug 14, 2021 19:56:36 GMT
There are two possibilities here. 1. You`re trying to wind us up. 2. You have Pollyanna syndrome.
and the third possibility. I have been following football for two and a half thousand years (as old as I feel) and the number of times a side is flying and brushing everyone aside after Christmas and go see what their first half a dozen games were like, they were like this. Promotion season under Trollope excellent example, about 18th after about 18 games with about 18 goals. This is not a wind up, this is how it always happens. And when it does, then we will know just who has been posting rubbish in this thread today. I hope you're right. And I hope you make us eat our words and feel really good about it. But again, what makes you confident? Because Trolls did it 15 years ago?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2021 20:14:23 GMT
In case anybody is thinking of the tired old 'They need time to gel' excuse, not only don't Stevenage have a pot to p1ss in and no supporters, they also fielded 6 players today who joined since last season ended;
Jake Reeves Jamie Reid Sacha Bastien Joseph Anang James Daly Jake Taylor.
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Post by texasgas on Aug 14, 2021 20:38:19 GMT
In case anybody is thinking of the tired old 'They need time to gel' excuse, not only don't Stevenage have a pot to p1ss in and no supporters, they also fielded 6 players today who joined since last season ended; Jake Reeves Jamie Reid Sacha Bastien Joseph Anang James Daly Jake Taylor. It's a dreadful excuse isn't. I wish my full time job was as forgiving. These are professional footballers. What stops them from "gelling" sooner? What magically happens after the 6th game to make them so much more superior. But the buck stops with the manager, new players or not, it's his job to set the system, instill the style of playing and crucially - make alterations when it's not working.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Aug 14, 2021 20:49:08 GMT
Was the Stoke loanee injured?
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Post by texasgas on Aug 14, 2021 21:15:09 GMT
Was the Stoke loanee injured? Don't think so. Didn't make the matchday squad.
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Post by mangogas15 on Aug 14, 2021 21:31:36 GMT
Defeat hard to take, but I think we all knew it was a possibility before the game and the longer it went on at 0-0.
Reset and go again Tuesday. Target 12 points after 6 games.
Good minutes for all players today.
Try to take the positives.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 14, 2021 23:21:59 GMT
The only player who looked good got subbed off, Lukę Thomas. The less said about this game, the better. Awful, no control or plan and no entertainment at all. Hated being there today
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Aug 14, 2021 23:24:50 GMT
In case anybody is thinking of the tired old 'They need time to gel' excuse, not only don't Stevenage have a pot to p1ss in and no supporters, they also fielded 6 players today who joined since last season ended; Jake Reeves Jamie Reid Sacha Bastien Joseph Anang James Daly Jake Taylor. It's a dreadful excuse isn't. I wish my full time job was as forgiving. These are professional footballers. What stops them from "gelling" sooner? What magically happens after the 6th game to make them so much more superior. But the buck stops with the manager, new players or not, it's his job to set the system, instill the style of playing and crucially - make alterations when it's not working. firstly, we made the mistake last season of adding the mess of previous season where we changed managers half way, onto the reset, so day 1 last season was day 201 in some minds all of them miserable, so you started calling for Garners head. We ain’t going to get anywhere are we unless we draw a line between the season a manager came in, and their chance to work their own players in own systems whilst we show some patience. Let’s not repeat that same mistake. secondly, the same sides flying to promotion so often look like impotent rubbish at the start of seasons. Why? In terms of team play it takes a while to develop familiarity with what the gaffer is asking for, and build up on field relationships. Off field too, which is why team building fun days is important for football squads. And then on individual basis players take a while to settle after change of club. Fantastic example is Lambert, you think of him scoring for fun, his last game 4 goals both feet and two different zones of his head was it, so how come only 4 goals in his first 23 games? look I don’t make these rules, I’m just explaining how it works. why am I so confident I know what happens next? Because I know everything above is how it so often works, and every football fan across the country needs to show patience at start of every new season is a fact. Also, especially us, because rarely are we widely rated for automatic promotion and our transfer business lauded as much as this. These people know more than us, trust them, they are professional pundits and bookies. B***** has been picking consistent team shape and tactic. 4 at back, 1 up, 2 staying wide, am I alone in liking that and hopes he sticks with it?
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Post by texasgas on Aug 14, 2021 23:40:41 GMT
It's a dreadful excuse isn't. I wish my full time job was as forgiving. These are professional footballers. What stops them from "gelling" sooner? What magically happens after the 6th game to make them so much more superior. But the buck stops with the manager, new players or not, it's his job to set the system, instill the style of playing and crucially - make alterations when it's not working. firstly, we made the mistake last season of adding the mess of previous season where we changed managers half way, onto the reset, so day 1 last season was day 201 in some minds all of them miserable, so you started calling for Garners head. We ain’t going to get anywhere are we unless we draw a line between the season a manager came in, and their chance to work their own players in own systems whilst we show some patience. Let’s not repeat that same mistake. secondly, the same sides flying to promotion so often look like impotent rubbish at the start of seasons. Why? In terms of team play it takes a while to develop familiarity with what the gaffer is asking for, and build up on field relationships. Off field too, which is why team building fun days is important for football squads. And then on individual basis players take a while to settle after change of club. Fantastic example is Lambert, you think of him scoring for fun, his last game 4 goals both feet and two different zones of his head was it, so how come only 4 goals in his first 23 games? look I don’t make these rules, I’m just explaining how it works. why am I so confident I know what happens next? Because I know everything above is how it so often works, and every football fan across the country needs to show patience at start of every new season is a fact. Also, especially us, because rarely are we widely rated for automatic promotion and our transfer business lauded as much as this. These people know more than us, trust them, they are professional pundits and bookies. B***** has been picking consistent team shape and tactic. 4 at back, 1 up, 2 staying wide, am I alone in liking that and hopes he sticks with it? On field relationships? Team building fun days? These are the rules?!
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Post by texasgas on Aug 14, 2021 23:43:05 GMT
It's a dreadful excuse isn't. I wish my full time job was as forgiving. These are professional footballers. What stops them from "gelling" sooner? What magically happens after the 6th game to make them so much more superior. But the buck stops with the manager, new players or not, it's his job to set the system, instill the style of playing and crucially - make alterations when it's not working. firstly, we made the mistake last season of adding the mess of previous season where we changed managers half way, onto the reset, so day 1 last season was day 201 in some minds all of them miserable, so you started calling for Garners head. We ain’t going to get anywhere are we unless we draw a line between the season a manager came in, and their chance to work their own players in own systems whilst we show some patience. Let’s not repeat that same mistake. secondly, the same sides flying to promotion so often look like impotent rubbish at the start of seasons. Why? In terms of team play it takes a while to develop familiarity with what the gaffer is asking for, and build up on field relationships. Off field too, which is why team building fun days is important for football squads. And then on individual basis players take a while to settle after change of club. Fantastic example is Lambert, you think of him scoring for fun, his last game 4 goals both feet and two different zones of his head was it, so how come only 4 goals in his first 23 games? look I don’t make these rules, I’m just explaining how it works. why am I so confident I know what happens next? Because I know everything above is how it so often works, and every football fan across the country needs to show patience at start of every new season is a fact. Also, especially us, because rarely are we widely rated for automatic promotion and our transfer business lauded as much as this. These people know more than us, trust them, they are professional pundits and bookies. B***** has been picking consistent team shape and tactic. 4 at back, 1 up, 2 staying wide, am I alone in liking that and hopes he sticks with it? I’m glad you feel confident. I don’t. Feel sorry for those that went and had to witness today’s game. You probably would’ve rubbed your hands together at full time. “It’s all coming together wonderfully”
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Post by chelt_gas on Aug 15, 2021 0:24:41 GMT
One thing that struck me watching the game. We didn’t look to have players playing for the shirt - no one looks to have that special affinity for the club.
Wael and B***** need to develop that culture.
It reminded me of Garner’s first spell in that we had too many needless spells of possession at the back. It was frankly limp and an unconfident showing.
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Post by alftupper on Aug 15, 2021 6:05:33 GMT
Defeat hard to take, but I think we all knew it was a possibility before the game and the longer it went on at 0-0. Reset and go again Tuesday. Target 12 points after 6 games. Good minutes for all players today. Try to take the positives. The only positive for me, was that I only live ten minutes walk from the ground, so I was able to anaesthetize myself with a few pints of Old Rosie asap.
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Post by The Concept on Aug 15, 2021 7:55:47 GMT
I know it's just a small proportion, and that it sounds worse than it actually is, but booing the team when most were playing their second league game for us??
A few at the front of the Thatchers End (embarrassingly) pointing the players off the pitch, and a weak chorus "you're not fit to wear the shirt", when some were wearing the shirt for the first time??
I'm afraid you are pointing your frustration in the wrong direction - the players don't deserve that.
I wonder whether these are the same people who applauded JB on, fist-pumping the badge, as he ran across the pitch. The same people singing "Joey B*****'s blue and white army", "Joey B*****, he does what he likes" etc.
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Post by towngas on Aug 15, 2021 8:13:58 GMT
2 League games into a season with a rebuilt side. There is just far too much hyperbole. Rome wasn’t built in a day. In fact, I reckon it could get worse before it gets better. Di Cannio Swindon romped this division, but their form looked hopeless in much of the first six. Most games of football are tight, even in promotion seasons, in the second half today the first to score won it, only we haven’t got our cutting edge out there yet in the second half take the game by the scruff of the neck and get us in front. There is a reason the pundits rate our signings and our chances, they are good signings, it’s a good enough squad, it’s a no brainier it gets better than this, after about 6 league games or so a month or so in. Having said it could get worse before it gets better, Oldham could go out the league this season so are weaker than Stevenage, whilst Exeter have started disastrously, so will have pressure and nerves in front their home fans. Two wins in 7 days would be a pleasant surprise, but not even necessary in terms of winning promotion. Let me point to so many comments not liking the team performance, but liking so many individual performances… There are two possibilities here. 1. You`re trying to wind us up. 2. You have Pollyanna syndrome.
What’s Pollyanna syndrome , Alf?
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Post by Bath Gas on Aug 15, 2021 8:29:22 GMT
I know it's just a small proportion, and that it sounds worse than it actually is, but booing the team when most were playing their second league game for us?? A few at the front of the Thatchers End (embarrassingly) pointing the players off the pitch, and a weak chorus "you're not fit to wear the shirt", when some were wearing the shirt for the first time?? I'm afraid you are pointing your frustration in the wrong direction - the players don't deserve that. I wonder whether these are the same people who applauded JB on, fist-pumping the badge, as he ran across the pitch. The same people singing "Joey B*****'s blue and white army", "Joey B*****, he does what he likes" etc. Agreed, some people just like the sound of their own voice. Booing players who've just played their first game for the club is ridiculous.
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Post by lostinspace on Aug 15, 2021 8:34:56 GMT
Just like to say.. that it was a lovely day out in Minehead yesterday
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 15, 2021 8:48:23 GMT
There are two possibilities here. 1. You`re trying to wind us up. 2. You have Pollyanna syndrome.
What’s Pollyanna syndrome , Alf? No matter how sh1t it gets... "I'm just so glad, glad, glad to be here".
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Post by towngas on Aug 15, 2021 9:27:12 GMT
What’s Pollyanna syndrome , Alf? No matter how sh1t it gets... "I'm just so glad, glad, glad to be here". Sounds like a Gas supporter pre-requisite!
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Aug 15, 2021 9:31:06 GMT
One thing that struck me watching the game. We didn’t look to have players playing for the shirt - no one looks to have that special affinity for the club. Wael and B***** need to develop that culture. It reminded me of Garner’s first spell in that we had too many needless spells of possession at the back. It was frankly limp and an unconfident showing. “We didn’t look to have players playing for the shirt” I think this is the number one mistake fans make. When the team performance makes it look like players don’t care, or when players care so much they are chucking up before kick off and insomniacs all week and the composures gone and fear sets in, the performance looks like the players don’t care. When the team don’t yet know the system, or player hasn’t settled yet, it looks like it lacks passion.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Aug 15, 2021 9:33:25 GMT
No matter how sh1t it gets... "I'm just so glad, glad, glad to be here". Sounds like a Gas supporter pre-requisite! sounds like a thread of its own, Pollyanna or are fans just too damn impatient and tad greedy. Discuss.
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