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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 16:54:48 GMT
I get your stance, and there were quite a few on here who said he should be given a chance to show he's changed. For me, there was so much doubt about whether that was the case, plus the fact that previous history has shown him to be an unpleasant character - that is the reason I did not want him appointed. And is the reason why I have just been waiting, feeling it was fairly certain there would be a further incident before too long. What has worried me further since his appointment, was the impression that Wael has handed full control of everything over to Joey. Including bringing in his friend Col Gibson to sort out other aspects of the club. It feels as if our owner has decided to sit back and let others run the show. It might be a good thing if he has realised he needs help, but the sort of help he has gone for doesn't fill me with any confidence at all and I fear for the future of BRFC if this is the way things are going to be. I'm sorry to say it but I have no faith any more that Wael is a suitable owner of our club. Maybe he can change and convince me otherwise. We've no choice but to give him a chance I guess. If Weal is not a suitable owner, be careful what you wish for, because there are many worse out there. Our previous owner for one. It's an interesting question. Is it better to ban people from the club for no good reason whatsoever or to pay the likes of B***** to be here?
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Post by Bath Gas on Jul 28, 2021 18:35:26 GMT
If Weal is not a suitable owner, be careful what you wish for, because there are many worse out there. Our previous owner for one. It's an interesting question. Is it better to ban people from the club for no good reason whatsoever or to pay the likes of B***** to be here? ..... and we're back in the never ending circle.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 19:35:15 GMT
It's an interesting question. Is it better to ban people from the club for no good reason whatsoever or to pay the likes of B***** to be here? ..... and we're back in the never ending circle. Agreed. Talking about Higgs is more boring than talking to the person himself.
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Post by Angas on Jul 28, 2021 19:52:50 GMT
I get your stance, and there were quite a few on here who said he should be given a chance to show he's changed. For me, there was so much doubt about whether that was the case, plus the fact that previous history has shown him to be an unpleasant character - that is the reason I did not want him appointed. And is the reason why I have just been waiting, feeling it was fairly certain there would be a further incident before too long. What has worried me further since his appointment, was the impression that Wael has handed full control of everything over to Joey. Including bringing in his friend Col Gibson to sort out other aspects of the club. It feels as if our owner has decided to sit back and let others run the show. It might be a good thing if he has realised he needs help, but the sort of help he has gone for doesn't fill me with any confidence at all and I fear for the future of BRFC if this is the way things are going to be. I'm sorry to say it but I have no faith any more that Wael is a suitable owner of our club. Maybe he can change and convince me otherwise. We've no choice but to give him a chance I guess. If Weal is not a suitable owner, be careful what you wish for, because there are many worse out there. Our previous owner for one. Why do you always misspell our current owner's name? I've often wondered.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 20:14:48 GMT
If Weal is not a suitable owner, be careful what you wish for, because there are many worse out there. Our previous owner for one. Why do you always misspell our current owner's name? I've often wondered. Somebody on the other forum does the same but we all know who he means.
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Post by Angas on Jul 28, 2021 20:27:28 GMT
I know who he means. I always took it to be deliberate, but reading his last post I'm not so sure. I'm just curious.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 20:57:26 GMT
It comes across strange to me, but he doesn't mean it so. He's a full supporter and defender of Al Qadi.
I still find it strange to use first names.
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Post by Angas on Jul 28, 2021 22:01:35 GMT
Thanks for that. I'd definitely got the wrong end of the stick. Not that it matters really.
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Post by Bamber Gashead on Jul 28, 2021 22:02:16 GMT
I actually think we're becoming less divided and coming together more in dismay at what the manager is accused of, and especially how the club have responded to this. That statement disgraced in the media remains online, despite a weasel-worded 'wholehearted' apology. Many of us agree on standing against this and with Refuge. A fairly broad consensus is emerging. Some do disagree, and that's perfectly correct. I don't want everyone to agree with me. Only you, Emporer. It looks like the statement has now been removed from the official website.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 22:37:31 GMT
Yes indeed. After forty-eight hours insulting victims and damaging BRFC, that awful statement has been deleted from the website.
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Post by chelt_gas on Jul 29, 2021 1:43:40 GMT
I actually think we're becoming less divided and coming together more in dismay at what the manager is accused of, and especially how the club have responded to this. That statement disgraced in the media remains online, despite a weasel-worded 'wholehearted' apology. Many of us agree on standing against this and with Refuge. A fairly broad consensus is emerging. Some do disagree, and that's perfectly correct. I don't want everyone to agree with me. Only you, Emporer. It looks like the statement has now been removed from the official website. There was a certain Gerald Ratner quality about that statement.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jul 29, 2021 5:06:03 GMT
Why do you always misspell our current owner's name? I've often wondered. Somebody on the other forum does the same but we all know who he means. A before E except after W
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 5:13:20 GMT
A before E except after W Eh?
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Post by alftupper on Jul 29, 2021 7:25:49 GMT
Somebody on the other forum does the same but we all know who he means. A before E except after W I before E, except when it isn`t. That`s what we were taught.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 7:28:39 GMT
I before e, unless you might like e, then e before thee.
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Post by towngas on Jul 29, 2021 8:19:10 GMT
Well if JB does return to the dugout that will test his deaf ears. He is going to get grief home and away. Will he be hidden in the ground to oversea the game? It is inconceivable that he is in the dugout before the cases. The innocent until proven guilty is a great sentiment but not applicable, in my view, in this case. Do we really want a very decisive atmosphere with all the young and impressionable close by? Why on earth is innocent until guilty not proven not applicable in this case? It might not be in the minds of those home fans who hate him and would happily trash the club they love to prove a point, however the founding tenet of British law hasn’t, to my certain knowledge, been re-written to accommodate B*****’s situation. Getting a grip springs to mind here.
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 29, 2021 8:41:58 GMT
Well if JB does return to the dugout that will test his deaf ears. He is going to get grief home and away. Will he be hidden in the ground to oversea the game? It is inconceivable that he is in the dugout before the cases. The innocent until proven guilty is a great sentiment but not applicable, in my view, in this case. Do we really want a very decisive atmosphere with all the young and impressionable close by? Why on earth is innocent until guilty not proven not applicable in this case? It might not be in the minds of those home fans who hate him and would happily trash the club they love to prove a point, however the founding tenet of British law hasn’t, to my certain knowledge, been re-written to accommodate B*****’s situation. Getting a grip springs to mind here. he and the club are quite within their rights for B***** to be in the dugout. Whether that is a good thing or not, people can make up their own minds but seems like a bad idea to me as I don't see anything positive coming from it. The pressure for B***** to deliver was big before, now the pressure is ramped up even more The whole thing is a mess of a situation. If he takes the dugout and we start badly, it aint going to be good and then do we sack him after 8 games or something If we are pissing the league and Joey is in the dugout, he could well be sacked in November or December. for the club the ideal scenario id for him to be in the dugout, everything go well on the pitch and off the pitch for Joey To me the most sensible solution is to 'suspend' him and let Clint Hill take the team. Joey can pull whatever strings off screen so to speak, but I think their needs to be some continuity, whilst also prepping the ground for a possible Joseph B***** conviction nad if all goes well for him, he should be able to slide back into the hot seat whether any of us particularly want him here or not
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Post by eppinggas on Jul 29, 2021 8:42:21 GMT
I actually think we're becoming less divided and coming together more in dismay at what the manager is accused of, and especially how the club have responded to this. That statement disgraced in the media remains online, despite a weasel-worded 'wholehearted' apology. Many of us agree on standing against this and with Refuge. A fairly broad consensus is emerging. Some do disagree, and that's perfectly correct. I don't want everyone to agree with me. Only you, Emporer. It looks like the statement has now been removed from the official website. I see the duck reckons it was there for 48 hours, I thought longer. That vile statement was allowed to fester. It brought in negative publicity from the footballing (and wider world), and even the dullards running our Football Club most have known what the reaction was. It shows an utter lack of professionalism and leadership at Bristol Rovers FC. Every member of the Board should hang their head in shame. Wael Al-Qadi is weak. He has a weak senior management team around him. Mistake after mistake will continue to happen.
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 29, 2021 9:04:38 GMT
It looks like the statement has now been removed from the official website. There was a certain Gerald Ratner quality about that statement. we actually bought one of their rings! engaged Plymouth 1978!![pre statement
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Post by vaughan on Jul 29, 2021 9:06:44 GMT
It is a mess, PP.
We have been relegated.
We start the season seemingly under-prepared.
The fan-base is divided and also bewildered in my opinion.
The owner has said that the Manager will be dismissed if either of the 2 assault charges stick.
The recent club statement reveals a total absence of nous.
Cicero's Sword of Damocles is so apt for the current situation at BRFC.
The reality is that Wael recruited a disruptor and he found the very personification of disruption. B***** is a troubled soul. Happiness at the club will be elusive when we are surrounded by apprehensions (Cicero).
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