kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jun 10, 2021 10:36:48 GMT
Not sure if this is sarcasm but it would be good to have true gasheads on the board and not just hired hands, with no connection to the club and who don’t feel the same love/passion as we do We did, but at the time fans always thought we needed professional help and thought up schemes like black and gold to express their displeasure at what those fans were doing. Am just hoping he does a good job but it seems odd to have both Starnes and him , together.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jun 10, 2021 12:44:59 GMT
Not just our ownership Swiss, but the size of city and club we are compared to a backwater town outside Liverpool. Yeovil are another example of 1 season championship wonders who punched above their weight for many years who have once again found their natural level which is The Conference. Accy will likely get relegated back to L2 in the coming years. If ranking went by population then as the 5th largest city in the UK, higher than Manchester, then perhaps we should have 2 prem sides but it doesn't work that way. If you arrogantly denigrate Accrington for punching above their weight, what does that say for other clubs/cities that have a less population than us such as Manchester, Leeds, Leicester, Newcastle, Southampton, Wolverhampton, are they punching above their weight too? And who are you to say Accrington will be relegated? What about Swindon (32nd largest city), should they be in the play offs for the Championship..... What about Sheffield (7th largest) should Wednesday demand to be put back in the Prem or should we demand Plymouth (23rd), Northampton (24th), Bolton (28th), Southend (35th), Sunderland (38th) all be put into the Championship? Warrington are the 39th largest city, should they be promoted from the Northern Premier League Premier Division (7th tier - how obscene!) to the Championship which their City size should allow! Gloucester (49th) City and Newport (55th), should be put in League One!! Perhaps we ought to demand that Barnsley (87th) or Preston (85th ) take our place after all population wise they are pathetic when compared to the mighty Bristol!! And poor old Burnley (not a city and population only 82,000!) should be thrown out of the League altogether! Accrington deserve plaudits for getting almost 8% of the town to matches, in Bristol that translates to 40,000 fans. So even combining us and City82 we aren't getting there. So its down to the clubs and the people of Bristol. Accrington have done brilliantly, are close to the community, building the ground slowly and surely with no tents! They have an active youth network and are financially sound. They face the challenge around them of Bolton, Blackburn, Burnley and the Manchester Clubs and Preston are within easy reach. By the way Accrington is North of Manchester not a backwater of Liverpool!
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jun 10, 2021 12:48:44 GMT
Not just our ownership Swiss, but the size of city and club we are compared to a backwater town outside Liverpool. Yeovil are another example of 1 season championship wonders who punched above their weight for many years who have once again found their natural level which is The Conference. Accy will likely get relegated back to L2 in the coming years. If ranking went by population then as the 5th largest city in the UK, higher than Manchester, then perhaps we should have 2 prem sides but it doesn't work that way. If you arrogantly denigrate Accrington for punching above their weight, what does that say for other clubs/cities that have a less population than us such as Manchester, Leeds, Leicester, Newcastle, Southampton, Wolverhampton, are they punching above their weight too? What about Swindon (32nd largest city), should they be heading the Championship What about Sheffield (7th largest) should Wednesday demand to be put back in the Prem or should we demand Plymouth (23rd), Northampton (24th), Bolton (28th), Southend (35th), Sunderland (38th) all be put into the Championship? Warrington are the 39th largest city, should they be promoted from the Northern Premier League Premier Division (7th tier - how obscene!) to the Championship which their City size should allow! Gloucester (49th) City and Newport (55th), should be put in League One!! Perhaps we ought to demand that Barnsley (87th) or Preston (85th ) take our place after all population wise they are pathetic when compared to the mighty Bristol!! And poor old Burnley (not a city and population only 82,000!) should be thrown out of the League altogether! Accrington deserve plaudits for getting almost 8% of the town to matches, in Bristol that translates to 40,000 fans. So even combining us and City82 we aren't getting there. So its down to the clubs and the people of Bristol. Accrington have done brilliantly, are close to the community, building the ground slowly and surely with no tents! They have an active youth network and are financially sound. They face the challenge around them of Bolton, Blackburn, Burnley and the Manchester Clubs and Preston are within easy reach. By the way Accrington is North of Manchester not a backwater of Liverpool! Well said Chesh. We have no right to think we are any better/bigger. We are where we are for good reason and they have been covered so I won’t go further into that
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Post by swissgas on Jun 10, 2021 14:10:42 GMT
What is it about our kind of ownership that makes us have a higher ceiling than Accrington Stanley ? Not just our ownership Swiss, but the size of city and club we are compared to a backwater town outside Liverpool. Yeovil are another example of 1 season championship wonders who punched above their weight for many years who have once again found their natural level which is The Conference. Accy will likely get relegated back to L2 in the coming years. I agree with that. But I thought you meant Rovers had the potential to go higher up the football ladder than Accrington Stanley because Joey is a better owner than Andy Holt.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jun 10, 2021 16:00:35 GMT
Not just our ownership Swiss, but the size of city and club we are compared to a backwater town outside Liverpool. Yeovil are another example of 1 season championship wonders who punched above their weight for many years who have once again found their natural level which is The Conference. Accy will likely get relegated back to L2 in the coming years. I agree with that. But I thought you meant Rovers had the potential to go higher up the football ladder than Accrington Stanley because Joey is a better owner than Andy Holt. I know B***** is taking more control of team affairs, but ...owner?
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Post by lostinspace on Jun 10, 2021 16:11:23 GMT
Not just our ownership Swiss, but the size of city and club we are compared to a backwater town outside Liverpool. Yeovil are another example of 1 season championship wonders who punched above their weight for many years who have once again found their natural level which is The Conference. Accy will likely get relegated back to L2 in the coming years. If ranking went by population then as the 5th largest city in the UK, higher than Manchester, then perhaps we should have 2 prem sides but it doesn't work that way. If you arrogantly denigrate Accrington for punching above their weight, what does that say for other clubs/cities that have a less population than us such as Manchester, Leeds, Leicester, Newcastle, Southampton, Wolverhampton, are they punching above their weight too? And who are you to say Accrington will be relegated? What about Swindon (32nd largest city), should they be in the play offs for the Championship..... What about Sheffield (7th largest) should Wednesday demand to be put back in the Prem or should we demand Plymouth (23rd), Northampton (24th), Bolton (28th), Southend (35th), Sunderland (38th) all be put into the Championship? Warrington are the 39th largest city, should they be promoted from the Northern Premier League Premier Division (7th tier - how obscene!) to the Championship which their City size should allow! Gloucester (49th) City and Newport (55th), should be put in League One!! Perhaps we ought to demand that Barnsley (87th) or Preston (85th ) take our place after all population wise they are pathetic when compared to the mighty Bristol!! And poor old Burnley (not a city and population only 82,000!) should be thrown out of the League altogether! Accrington deserve plaudits for getting almost 8% of the town to matches, in Bristol that translates to 40,000 fans. So even combining us and City82 we aren't getting there. So its down to the clubs and the people of Bristol. Accrington have done brilliantly, are close to the community, building the ground slowly and surely with no tents! They have an active youth network and are financially sound. They face the challenge around them of Bolton, Blackburn, Burnley and the Manchester Clubs and Preston are within easy reach. By the way Accrington is North of Manchester not a backwater of Liverpool! and the only place in Britain where i have seen members of the public wearing wooden clogs [ albiet MANY years ago]
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Post by knowall on Jun 10, 2021 16:51:55 GMT
I agree with that. But I thought you meant Rovers had the potential to go higher up the football ladder than Accrington Stanley because Joey is a better owner than Andy Holt. I know B***** is taking more control of team affairs, but ...owner? well maybe the current owner thinks B***** has better qualifications than the owner?
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Post by holmesgas1 on Jun 10, 2021 17:16:03 GMT
We did, but at the time fans always thought we needed professional help and thought up schemes like black and gold to express their displeasure at what those fans were doing. Am just hoping he does a good job but it seems odd to have both Starnes and him , together. KP, why. Gibson is non-executive director, in theory giving advice to the board. Starnes as CEO is responsible for day to day operations and formulating the vision with the owner. Starnes has real responsibility with Wael. What I think your alluding too is Gibson will probably do a lot more than the standard non-exec and secondly does Starnes really lead? I question his capabilities....
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Post by johnmalyckyj on Jun 10, 2021 20:46:43 GMT
Welcome to Bristol Rovers Chris. I hope your term at the club is productive for us and you can help lead the other directors in the direction we as supporters want the club to go and that's in the opposite direction to the current one. It seems the Board (Wael) has suddenly realised that football clubs need fans, and in particular organised fans. He has also realised that it is the fans that actually provide the funding of a club (unless the Board are very wealthy but maybe running out of cash?). Of course it would be difficult to admit that so, get someone in who will make overtures to the SC and the PC and the greater fan base. We look forward to being courted (the whole fanbase), might make a change from being ignored! Well here is your answer, bristol-roversfc.co.uk/4NQE-136BK-B47047713C0E374F2PGJV6BEBD96FEFF1E9282/cr.aspx I suggest you have a look because this was the Supporters Club offer was once upon a time, it will be interesting to see what it can offer now. I did say I would drop the matter but once again you appear to suggest that the Football Club should make overtures to to the SC and the PC, so I have to ask you again, how many paid up members are there of the Presidents Club? I cannot think of any excuse for ignoring such a simple and straightforward question given your constant criticism of the current board. Also can you now tell us how much it will cost to join and what are the benefits of joining? Regards John Malyckyj
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Post by johnmalyckyj on Jun 10, 2021 20:49:39 GMT
I think if you look at the last 12 to 18 months fan engagement has improved markedly, as recognised by a formal football survey. Up from near to the bottom to 16th out of the 92 clubs I believe. It's good news that they want do more. Engagement is also a 2 way street so I hope all parties keep an open mind and look to move forward with the best interests of Bristol Rovers in mind, unlike some of the ridiculous comments we saw from SC a while back. And how much are you going to contribute to the cause? - While the SC who you continually criticise continue to support the Club - own up - how much are you giving? and then tell us who you are? The irony of you demanding answers to questions....will not be lost on a few readers of this forum....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 22:27:22 GMT
It seems the Board (Wael) has suddenly realised that football clubs need fans, and in particular organised fans. He has also realised that it is the fans that actually provide the funding of a club (unless the Board are very wealthy but maybe running out of cash?). Of course it would be difficult to admit that so, get someone in who will make overtures to the SC and the PC and the greater fan base. We look forward to being courted (the whole fanbase), might make a change from being ignored! Well here is your answer, bristol-roversfc.co.uk/4NQE-136BK-B47047713C0E374F2PGJV6BEBD96FEFF1E9282/cr.aspx I suggest you have a look because this was the Supporters Club offer was once upon a time, it will be interesting to see what it can offer now. I did say I would drop the matter but once again you appear to suggest that the Football Club should make overtures to to the SC and the PC, so I have to ask you again, how many paid up members are there of the Presidents Club? I cannot think of any excuse for ignoring such a simple and straightforward question given your constant criticism of the current board. Also can you now tell us how much it will cost to join and what are the benefits of joining? Regards John Malyckyj Your link doesn't work John.
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Post by The Concept on Jul 26, 2021 15:22:27 GMT
Chris Gibson MBE was appointed to BRFC's Board of Directors the day after JB's previous court hearing was postponed until November, and 6 days after this new alleged incident took place. - Were the BoD aware of the latest incident when the appointment was made? - Does this appointment of JB's man effectively give JB a say in the boardroom? - Does the presence of JB's man in the boardroom affect the other members of the BoD? - Do the other members of the BoD act differently, or feel unable to say things they might otherwise have discussed, with JB's man in the meetings? A reminder from JB's instagram, on 31/03/2021: he's not here to take part, he's here to take over: http://instagram.com/p/CNFFPO9AjpF
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Post by swissgas on Jul 26, 2021 16:08:55 GMT
Chris Gibson MBE was appointed to BRFC's Board of Directors the day after JB's previous court hearing was postponed until November, and 6 days after this new alleged incident took place. - Were the BoD aware of the latest incident when the appointment was made? - Does this appointment of JB's man effectively give JB a say in the boardroom? - Does the presence of JB's man in the boardroom affect the other members of the BoD? - Do the other members of the BoD act differently, or feel unable to say things they might otherwise have discussed, with JB's man in the meetings? A reminder from JB's instagram, on 31/03/2021: he's not here to take part, he's here to take over: http://instagr.am/p/CNFFPO9AjpF This was on the cards from the moment B*****'s name was mentioned as being a potential manager of Rovers. And I think we should forget the notion that the club is run by a board of directors.
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Post by Bath Gas on Jul 26, 2021 17:17:19 GMT
Chris Gibson MBE was appointed to BRFC's Board of Directors the day after JB's previous court hearing was postponed until November, and 6 days after this new alleged incident took place. - Were the BoD aware of the latest incident when the appointment was made? - Does this appointment of JB's man effectively give JB a say in the boardroom? - Does the presence of JB's man in the boardroom affect the other members of the BoD? - Do the other members of the BoD act differently, or feel unable to say things they might otherwise have discussed, with JB's man in the meetings? A reminder from JB's instagram, on 31/03/2021: he's not here to take part, he's here to take over: http://instagr.am/p/CNFFPO9AjpF This was on the cards from the moment B*****'s name was mentioned as being a potential manager of Rovers. And I think we should forget the notion that the club is run by a board of directors. So who is actually running the club - I'd take a guess that you mean B*****?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2021 17:21:00 GMT
I took it to mean that the club is run not by a board of directors but by Al Qadi employees answerable only to Al Qadi's kneejerk and misguided whimsy. That's certainly how BRFC appear to me, although B***** ally takeover does appear a threat still.
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Post by Bath Gas on Jul 26, 2021 17:23:41 GMT
I took it to mean that the club is run not by a board of directors but by Al Qadi employees answerable only to Al Qadi's kneejerk and misguided whimsy. That's certainly how BRFC appear to me, although B***** ally takeover does appear a threat still. Could be, on the other hand, is it B***** who is pulling Wael's strings?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2021 17:26:43 GMT
Could be, on the other hand, is it B***** who is pulling Wael's strings? The very suggestion terrifies me .
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 26, 2021 18:08:28 GMT
Could be, on the other hand, is it B***** who is pulling Wael's strings? The very suggestion terrifies me . And me. UTG!
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Post by irishrover on Jul 26, 2021 19:03:54 GMT
What is it about our kind of ownership that makes us have a higher ceiling than Accrington Stanley ? Not just our ownership Swiss, but the size of city and club we are compared to a backwater town outside Liverpool. Yeovil are another example of 1 season championship wonders who punched above their weight for many years who have once again found their natural level which is The Conference. Accy will likely get relegated back to L2 in the coming years. Ah - there's a lot of punching above weight comments on this thread. It makes me think about how you might visualise this.
The way some people bang on about it I imagine them seeing Rovers as a kind of obese but tactically inept sumo wrestler who keeps losing to slimmer sleeker perfomers. However, I suspect in reality we are more like a middle aged dad inceasingly concerned about the onset of middle aged spread who keeps getting annhilated by toddlers in those sumo-suit fights you can do at the seaside.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2021 19:10:06 GMT
more like a middle aged dad inceasingly concerned about the onset of middle aged spread who keeps getting annhilated Leave me alone!
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