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Post by swissgas on May 3, 2021 18:24:16 GMT
Swiss, You have always picked apart the ownership particularly surrounding their net worth, income, shareholding’s, financial performances of companies they own/have a shareholding in, financial performances of the club, structure of the accounts, speculated and simulated various scenarios and prophecies of doom and gloom with the sole intention of trying to ring lead a small group of supporters to believe that Wael does not have the best interests of Rovers at heart. In the last 2 years prophecies from you have amounted to Wael wanting to sell the stadium to cover the losses, administration, liquidation and now this. Your credibility on gaschat is bankrupt after you repeatedly banged a drum about our intending financial collapse only for Wael to write off the debt the following week! It made you, Knowall and all the other prophets of doom look like right mugs, and yet it doesn’t seem to have put you off!! This forum suits your agenda perfectly and your constant attempts at besmirching the ownership seems to have some hooked but as contradiction is absolutely right in saying, until you can fully publish WAQs full net worth in cash, shares, assets and any other form of net value, your prophecy of doom is totally without foundation and is nothing more than speculation. Wael’s actions in the last 18 months speak far louder than any of your words, which have amounted to nothing. Well well, something is afoot, you wouldn't be trying to divert attention would you ? I have never said that Wael does not have the best interests of Rovers at heart but I have said that his leadership of Rovers has been incompetent and, on the basis of published figures, he does not have the means to cover Rovers losses indefinitely. I do agree with you that Wael's actions in the last eighteen months have spoken volumes and confirmed to most Gasheads that he is badly in need of help. But the fact that he is now turning to Joey B***** and his associates for that help has set alarm bells ringing with many sensible fans who can see how it is likely to end. Perhaps that is the reason for the sudden panic ?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 19:23:01 GMT
Swiss, You have always picked apart the ownership particularly surrounding their net worth, income, shareholding’s, financial performances of companies they own/have a shareholding in, financial performances of the club, structure of the accounts, speculated and simulated various scenarios and prophecies of doom and gloom with the sole intention of trying to ring lead a small group of supporters to believe that Wael does not have the best interests of Rovers at heart. In the last 2 years prophecies from you have amounted to Wael wanting to sell the stadium to cover the losses, administration, liquidation and now this. Your credibility on gaschat is bankrupt after you repeatedly banged a drum about our intending financial collapse only for Wael to write off the debt the following week! It made you, Knowall and all the other prophets of doom look like right mugs, and yet it doesn’t seem to have put you off!! This forum suits your agenda perfectly and your constant attempts at besmirching the ownership seems to have some hooked but as contradiction is absolutely right in saying, until you can fully publish WAQs full net worth in cash, shares, assets and any other form of net value, your prophecy of doom is totally without foundation and is nothing more than speculation. Wael’s actions in the last 18 months speak far louder than any of your words, which have amounted to nothing. Well well, something is afoot, you wouldn't be trying to divert attention would you ? I have never said that Wael does not have the best interests of Rovers at heart but I have said that his leadership of Rovers has been incompetent and, on the basis of published figures, he does not have the means to cover Rovers losses indefinitely. I do agree with you that Wael's actions in the last eighteen months have spoken volumes and confirmed to most Gasheads that he is badly in need of help. But the fact that he is now turning to Joey B***** and his associates for that help has set alarm bells ringing with many sensible fans who can see how it is likely to end. Perhaps that is the reason for the sudden panic ? Crickey, someone has their nose out of joint when I'm being accused of being in the same camp as knownothing, a poster with a 100% record of starting rumours by posting half a story then saying he's sworn to secrecy and he can't give any more information, but everything will be out in the open 'soon' followed by missed deadline after missed deadline and a perfect record of always being incorrect. All I've ever done is mock the bloke, now we are Brothers in arms, apparently. Always good to know.
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Post by swissgas on May 3, 2021 21:20:56 GMT
Swiss, You have always picked apart the ownership particularly surrounding their net worth, income, shareholding’s, financial performances of companies they own/have a shareholding in, financial performances of the club, structure of the accounts, speculated and simulated various scenarios and prophecies of doom and gloom with the sole intention of trying to ring lead a small group of supporters to believe that Wael does not have the best interests of Rovers at heart. In the last 2 years prophecies from you have amounted to Wael wanting to sell the stadium to cover the losses, administration, liquidation and now this. Your credibility on gaschat is bankrupt after you repeatedly banged a drum about our intending financial collapse only for Wael to write off the debt the following week! It made you, Knowall and all the other prophets of doom look like right mugs, and yet it doesn’t seem to have put you off!! This forum suits your agenda perfectly and your constant attempts at besmirching the ownership seems to have some hooked but as contradiction is absolutely right in saying, until you can fully publish WAQs full net worth in cash, shares, assets and any other form of net value, your prophecy of doom is totally without foundation and is nothing more than speculation. Wael’s actions in the last 18 months speak far louder than any of your words, which have amounted to nothing. They have amounted to epic failure , relegation and lord knows how much this re-set will cost but no need to worry or question as we will go straight back up. On a personal note, I have never seen swissgas wish for or ask for failure but has provided an alternative , to the crazy training ground rebuild. I honestly don’t understand how anyone, who has a passion for the club and securing it future, would not feel worry , when we have seen so much fail and then a rebuild. The supporters will be here, whoever owns it but you must be at least concerned, no ? Thanks KP. It is an epic failure on all counts and, as with everything in life, trying to cover it up does no good at all. I've always tried to be civil and constructive in my criticism and put forward alternative solutions regarding the stadium, the new "vision/philosophy" and the training ground. What is surprising to me is that those who were so enthusiastic about the "vision/philosophy" have seen it dismantled and trashed in a matter of weeks without a murmur. It is almost like what we used to see behind the iron curtain where people and events were obliterated from history and nobody was allowed to talk about them. But the most telling thing is the resort to personal abuse which gives the game away that the criticism is hitting a nerve and that there actually are concerns and feelings of insecurity which some fans would rather not face up to.
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 3, 2021 21:47:31 GMT
Swiss, You have always picked apart the ownership particularly surrounding their net worth, income, shareholding’s, financial performances of companies they own/have a shareholding in, financial performances of the club, structure of the accounts, speculated and simulated various scenarios and prophecies of doom and gloom with the sole intention of trying to ring lead a small group of supporters to believe that Wael does not have the best interests of Rovers at heart. In the last 2 years prophecies from you have amounted to Wael wanting to sell the stadium to cover the losses, administration, liquidation and now this. Your credibility on gaschat is bankrupt after you repeatedly banged a drum about our intending financial collapse only for Wael to write off the debt the following week! It made you, Knowall and all the other prophets of doom look like right mugs, and yet it doesn’t seem to have put you off!! This forum suits your agenda perfectly and your constant attempts at besmirching the ownership seems to have some hooked but as contradiction is absolutely right in saying, until you can fully publish WAQs full net worth in cash, shares, assets and any other form of net value, your prophecy of doom is totally without foundation and is nothing more than speculation. Wael’s actions in the last 18 months speak far louder than any of your words, which have amounted to nothing. Well well, something is afoot, you wouldn't be trying to divert attention would you ? I have never said that Wael does not have the best interests of Rovers at heart but I have said that his leadership of Rovers has been incompetent and, on the basis of published figures, he does not have the means to cover Rovers losses indefinitely. I do agree with you that Wael's actions in the last eighteen months have spoken volumes and confirmed to most Gasheads that he is badly in need of help. But the fact that he is now turning to Joey B***** and his associates for that help has set alarm bells ringing with many sensible fans who can see how it is likely to end. Perhaps that is the reason for the sudden panic ? Not diverting Swiss. Just find it laughable that your lines on both forums follow the same trajectory. I find it bemusing that from all the way in America, you can make assumptions based on what’s probably a 1/4 of the sum total of information. For someone with who’s a specialist in finance your 2+2 never equals 4. So we can all be completely worried, what is Wael Al’Qadi’s total net worth, of which, what is his net cash asset? I don’t see anyone panicking Swiss, I’m not, and I don’t see any reason why you would need to say there is when your information is solely based on AJIB performance.
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 3, 2021 21:49:42 GMT
Well well, something is afoot, you wouldn't be trying to divert attention would you ? I have never said that Wael does not have the best interests of Rovers at heart but I have said that his leadership of Rovers has been incompetent and, on the basis of published figures, he does not have the means to cover Rovers losses indefinitely. I do agree with you that Wael's actions in the last eighteen months have spoken volumes and confirmed to most Gasheads that he is badly in need of help. But the fact that he is now turning to Joey B***** and his associates for that help has set alarm bells ringing with many sensible fans who can see how it is likely to end. Perhaps that is the reason for the sudden panic ? Crickey, someone has their nose out of joint when I'm being accused of being in the same camp as knownothing, a poster with a 100% record of starting rumours by posting half a story then saying he's sworn to secrecy and he can't give any more information, but everything will be out in the open 'soon' followed by missed deadline after missed deadline and a perfect record of always being incorrect. All I've ever done is mock the bloke, now we are Brothers in arms, apparently. Always good to know. TWD, I’m not sure if I have directed anything at you, just Swiss.
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 3, 2021 21:59:37 GMT
Swiss, You have always picked apart the ownership particularly surrounding their net worth, income, shareholding’s, financial performances of companies they own/have a shareholding in, financial performances of the club, structure of the accounts, speculated and simulated various scenarios and prophecies of doom and gloom with the sole intention of trying to ring lead a small group of supporters to believe that Wael does not have the best interests of Rovers at heart. In the last 2 years prophecies from you have amounted to Wael wanting to sell the stadium to cover the losses, administration, liquidation and now this. Your credibility on gaschat is bankrupt after you repeatedly banged a drum about our intending financial collapse only for Wael to write off the debt the following week! It made you, Knowall and all the other prophets of doom look like right mugs, and yet it doesn’t seem to have put you off!! This forum suits your agenda perfectly and your constant attempts at besmirching the ownership seems to have some hooked but as contradiction is absolutely right in saying, until you can fully publish WAQs full net worth in cash, shares, assets and any other form of net value, your prophecy of doom is totally without foundation and is nothing more than speculation. Wael’s actions in the last 18 months speak far louder than any of your words, which have amounted to nothing. They have amounted to epic failure , relegation and lord knows how much this re-set will cost but no need to worry or question as we will go straight back up. On a personal note, I have never seen swissgas wish for or ask for failure but has provided an alternative , to the crazy training ground rebuild. I honestly don’t understand how anyone, who has a passion for the club and securing it future, would not feel worry , when we have seen so much fail and then a rebuild. The supporters will be here, whoever owns it but you must be at least concerned, no ? I’m not being personal with Swiss but I’ve heard it all before. His financial doom mongering and prophecies of doom made him look foolish, but the lesson wasn’t learnt. It’s similar in fetish to the supporters club and their constant misinformation both publicly and privately starting rumours amongst fans that at least Jim Chappel has learnt to keep schtum lately and stop making a fool of himself. Relegation happens to football clubs, bigger clubs than us have fallen from grace to lower reaches than we will be in last year, but listening to the Swiss propaganda will only have you worried for no cause. We are no longer a club that deserves to be in L1 permanently. The last 20 years has seen us spend more seasons outside of L1 than in it. We have suffered more through a lack of infrastructure now more than ever, a total lack of investment from the Dunford regime, through the Higgs reign from 1999/2000 season onwards has set this club back many years and yet people look back at that being some Halcyon golden era.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 22:26:55 GMT
Crickey, someone has their nose out of joint when I'm being accused of being in the same camp as knownothing, a poster with a 100% record of starting rumours by posting half a story then saying he's sworn to secrecy and he can't give any more information, but everything will be out in the open 'soon' followed by missed deadline after missed deadline and a perfect record of always being incorrect. All I've ever done is mock the bloke, now we are Brothers in arms, apparently. Always good to know. TWD, I’m not sure if I have directed anything at you, just Swiss. Sorry if I misunderstood. Maybe you were referencing something from the other forum? I've been accused in the past on here of being some kind of Swiss fanboy. That's not the case. I don't think he's right about everything and regularly tell him so, but I do trust his ability to find the correct bits in company accounts and appreciate his comments on what the numbers may mean. Any more than that, when he's wrong, he'll get told. Sorry for any confusion.
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Post by warehamgas on May 3, 2021 22:30:42 GMT
Mmm. So not a thread on Season Tickets after all? 🤔 UTG!
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 22:44:26 GMT
They have amounted to epic failure , relegation and lord knows how much this re-set will cost but no need to worry or question as we will go straight back up. On a personal note, I have never seen swissgas wish for or ask for failure but has provided an alternative , to the crazy training ground rebuild. I honestly don’t understand how anyone, who has a passion for the club and securing it future, would not feel worry , when we have seen so much fail and then a rebuild. The supporters will be here, whoever owns it but you must be at least concerned, no ? I’m not being personal with Swiss but I’ve heard it all before. His financial doom mongering and prophecies of doom made him look foolish, but the lesson wasn’t learnt. It’s similar in fetish to the supporters club and their constant misinformation both publicly and privately starting rumours amongst fans that at least Jim Chappel has learnt to keep schtum lately and stop making a fool of himself. Relegation happens to football clubs, bigger clubs than us have fallen from grace to lower reaches than we will be in last year, but listening to the Swiss propaganda will only have you worried for no cause. We are no longer a club that deserves to be in L1 permanently. The last 20 years has seen us spend more seasons outside of L1 than in it. We have suffered more through a lack of infrastructure now more than ever, a total lack of investment from the Dunford regime, through the Higgs reign from 1999/2000 season onwards has set this club back many years and yet people look back at that being some Halcyon golden era. Good Lord, I've heard it all now. Geoff and his Father took us from literally nothing to owning the stadium back in Bristol with a small mortgage secured against it. Shame on you for dragging Geoff's name into this in that way. Just sickening. I'll deal with the rest of that rubbish later when I've calmed down a bit. You disgust me.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 22:46:13 GMT
Mmm. So not a thread on Season Tickets after all? 🤔 UTG! Contact TicketMaster for those. But from what I gather service charges can be quite high.
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Post by swissgas on May 3, 2021 22:57:41 GMT
Well well, something is afoot, you wouldn't be trying to divert attention would you ? I have never said that Wael does not have the best interests of Rovers at heart but I have said that his leadership of Rovers has been incompetent and, on the basis of published figures, he does not have the means to cover Rovers losses indefinitely. I do agree with you that Wael's actions in the last eighteen months have spoken volumes and confirmed to most Gasheads that he is badly in need of help. But the fact that he is now turning to Joey B***** and his associates for that help has set alarm bells ringing with many sensible fans who can see how it is likely to end. Perhaps that is the reason for the sudden panic ? Not diverting Swiss. Just find it laughable that your lines on both forums follow the same trajectory. I find it bemusing that from all the way in America, you can make assumptions based on what’s probably a 1/4 of the sum total of information. For someone with who’s a specialist in finance your 2+2 never equals 4. So we can all be completely worried, what is Wael Al’Qadi’s total net worth, of which, what is his net cash asset? I don’t see anyone panicking Swiss, I’m not, and I don’t see any reason why you would need to say there is when your information is solely based on AJIB performance. We actually have internet in the USA so as well as other Rovers related information available online I am able to see the state of the Mem on I follow, the state of the training ground from a video the club released, the league 1 table from the BBC website, the reports on B***** and his associates from various online newspapers, the AJIB accounts from their website, the Dwane Sports and Dwane Colony annual returns from the Jersey Companies Registry, Wael’s open letters from the BRFC website and the BRFC1883 Ltd accounts from Companies House. Can you tell me where I can find the other 3/4 of the information I need before I am allowed to express an opinion ?
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Post by swissgas on May 4, 2021 1:08:53 GMT
They have amounted to epic failure , relegation and lord knows how much this re-set will cost but no need to worry or question as we will go straight back up. On a personal note, I have never seen swissgas wish for or ask for failure but has provided an alternative , to the crazy training ground rebuild. I honestly don’t understand how anyone, who has a passion for the club and securing it future, would not feel worry , when we have seen so much fail and then a rebuild. The supporters will be here, whoever owns it but you must be at least concerned, no ? I’m not being personal with Swiss but I’ve heard it all before. His financial doom mongering and prophecies of doom made him look foolish, but the lesson wasn’t learnt. It’s similar in fetish to the supporters club and their constant misinformation both publicly and privately starting rumours amongst fans that at least Jim Chappel has learnt to keep schtum lately and stop making a fool of himself. Relegation happens to football clubs, bigger clubs than us have fallen from grace to lower reaches than we will be in last year, but listening to the Swiss propaganda will only have you worried for no cause. We are no longer a club that deserves to be in L1 permanently. The last 20 years has seen us spend more seasons outside of L1 than in it. We have suffered more through a lack of infrastructure now more than ever, a total lack of investment from the Dunford regime, through the Higgs reign from 1999/2000 season onwards has set this club back many years and yet people look back at that being some Halcyon golden era. Thanks for your assurance that there is no cause to be worried. And also the revelation that previous owners, to their shame, left us so lacking in infrastructure that Wael has had to spend 20+ million to get us back to League 2. You have explained that cash resources are in place to finance Rovers requirements indefinitely so does this mean you can now provide an assurance that Wael will not need or accept funding in any form from B***** or his associates ?
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 4, 2021 7:47:54 GMT
I’m not being personal with Swiss but I’ve heard it all before. His financial doom mongering and prophecies of doom made him look foolish, but the lesson wasn’t learnt. It’s similar in fetish to the supporters club and their constant misinformation both publicly and privately starting rumours amongst fans that at least Jim Chappel has learnt to keep schtum lately and stop making a fool of himself. Relegation happens to football clubs, bigger clubs than us have fallen from grace to lower reaches than we will be in last year, but listening to the Swiss propaganda will only have you worried for no cause. We are no longer a club that deserves to be in L1 permanently. The last 20 years has seen us spend more seasons outside of L1 than in it. We have suffered more through a lack of infrastructure now more than ever, a total lack of investment from the Dunford regime, through the Higgs reign from 1999/2000 season onwards has set this club back many years and yet people look back at that being some Halcyon golden era. Good Lord, I've heard it all now. Geoff and his Father took us from literally nothing to owning the stadium back in Bristol with a small mortgage secured against it. Shame on you for dragging Geoff's name into this in that way. Just sickening. I'll deal with the rest of that rubbish later when I've calmed down a bit. You disgust me. I’m not disparaging what the Dunfords did do for us, not in any way. You misunderstand what I am saying. What I am saying is we were relegated to L2 for the first time under the Dunfords watch, nearly went out of the league under his watch, didn’t invest in anything at the Mem or any training facility either. That blueprint followed on until we did go out of the league. As a result other clubs around us have invested so now we have clubs like Fleetwood, who back when we first got relegated to L2, were in the 9th tier of English football, now playing in a higher league than us. 20 years later we seem to have cloudy memories as to why that happened, how nothing was restructured or invested in the next 20 years to ensure we got out of the league ASAP and then never went down there again. There’s lots of disrespectful comments about the current ownership and I get why, it’s been an awful season with countless poor decisions made on the footballing front, but we are in much better shape to bounce back quickly than we ever were and that’s thanks to the investment this ownership has put in. Hopefully we get out at the first attempt and learn from all the mistakes we have made so we never ever return.
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Post by axegas on May 4, 2021 8:14:23 GMT
I’m not being personal with Swiss but I’ve heard it all before. His financial doom mongering and prophecies of doom made him look foolish, but the lesson wasn’t learnt. It’s similar in fetish to the supporters club and their constant misinformation both publicly and privately starting rumours amongst fans that at least Jim Chappel has learnt to keep schtum lately and stop making a fool of himself. Relegation happens to football clubs, bigger clubs than us have fallen from grace to lower reaches than we will be in last year, but listening to the Swiss propaganda will only have you worried for no cause. We are no longer a club that deserves to be in L1 permanently. The last 20 years has seen us spend more seasons outside of L1 than in it. We have suffered more through a lack of infrastructure now more than ever, a total lack of investment from the Dunford regime, through the Higgs reign from 1999/2000 season onwards has set this club back many years and yet people look back at that being some Halcyon golden era. Thanks for your assurance that there is no cause to be worried. And also the revelation that previous owners, to their shame, left us so lacking in infrastructure that Wael has had to spend 20+ million to get us back to League 2. You have explained that cash resources are in place to finance Rovers requirements indefinitely so does this mean you can now provide an assurance that Wael will not need or accept funding in any form from B***** or his associates ? You’ve presented plenty of evidence that Wael doesn’t have enough financial resources to take the club forward, what evidence is there that a) B***** even wants any stake in the club from a financial perspective and b) that he even has “associates” that have enough money to put into the club. This isn’t meant as a dig Swiss, I’m just genuinely curious, I’ve done plenty of research and not found any intent or wealth surrounding B***** from my side. I also think that your second sentence isn’t far off reality sadly enough. Higgs sold the club because he knew we were a leaky bucket in financial terms and that he would be unable to back DC without dipping significantly into his own personal funds. We got an owner who could, at least where these last 5 years are concerned, but perhaps at the cost of footballing savviness, as evidenced this season, maybe Wael can reverse this recent decline who knows.
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 4, 2021 8:21:34 GMT
Not diverting Swiss. Just find it laughable that your lines on both forums follow the same trajectory. I find it bemusing that from all the way in America, you can make assumptions based on what’s probably a 1/4 of the sum total of information. For someone with who’s a specialist in finance your 2+2 never equals 4. So we can all be completely worried, what is Wael Al’Qadi’s total net worth, of which, what is his net cash asset? I don’t see anyone panicking Swiss, I’m not, and I don’t see any reason why you would need to say there is when your information is solely based on AJIB performance. We actually have internet in the USA so as well as other Rovers related information available online I am able to see the state of the Mem on I follow, the state of the training ground from a video the club released, the league 1 table from the BBC website, the reports on B***** and his associates from various online newspapers, the AJIB accounts from their website, the Dwane Sports and Dwane Colony annual returns from the Jersey Companies Registry, Wael’s open letters from the BRFC website and the BRFC1883 Ltd accounts from Companies House. Can you tell me where I can find the other 3/4 of the information I need before I am allowed to express an opinion ? So do you agree that the Mem, although ramshackle in appearance and completely unfit for purpose looks in better shape pitch wise and commercially than it has ever done? The training ground, which is ours, is coming on nicely and whilst it isn’t CAT 1 premier league stuff, it’s better than what we have had previously, which is nothing and will be better than what some clubs have? The communication to us fans Trouble is Swiss with all your digging it always looks as if you do so with an agenda to discredit, your opinions by a select few (as stated by one poster above) are taken as authority when in reality they are assumptions which are purely speculative which are spoken with out full facts. It goes beyond just an opinion because you prophesy it as the actual direction WAQ is taking the club when as proven before, your version of events do not come to pass.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 9:28:52 GMT
Good Lord, I've heard it all now. Geoff and his Father took us from literally nothing to owning the stadium back in Bristol with a small mortgage secured against it. Shame on you for dragging Geoff's name into this in that way. Just sickening. I'll deal with the rest of that rubbish later when I've calmed down a bit. You disgust me. I’m not disparaging what the Dunfords did do for us, not in any way. You misunderstand what I am saying. What I am saying is we were relegated to L2 for the first time under the Dunfords watch, nearly went out of the league under his watch, didn’t invest in anything at the Mem or any training facility either. That blueprint followed on until we did go out of the league. As a result other clubs around us have invested so now we have clubs like Fleetwood, who back when we first got relegated to L2, were in the 9th tier of English football, now playing in a higher league than us. 20 years later we seem to have cloudy memories as to why that happened, how nothing was restructured or invested in the next 20 years to ensure we got out of the league ASAP and then never went down there again. There’s lots of disrespectful comments about the current ownership and I get why, it’s been an awful season with countless poor decisions made on the footballing front, but we are in much better shape to bounce back quickly than we ever were and that’s thanks to the investment this ownership has put in. Hopefully we get out at the first attempt and learn from all the mistakes we have made so we never ever return. Maybe we should leave it there. I think it's very poor form to drag the Dunford name in to this, you don't, others reading will make their own judgement. I have no personal issue with Wael whatsoever and have never insulted him, or any of his family members, but I am seriously worried about how the club is being run. You think he has everything under control. Fair enough. 5 years to take us backwards kind of suggests that your faith may not be on a firm footing. For me, the losses, the state of the stadium, being told that the training ground design was all wrong, the manager situation, what did B***** say, was it that the 'culture' throughout the club was wrong or words to that effect, and Tisdale had said something similar. High profile mistakes from Gorringe and relegation are things that I'm struggling to think beyond, but you keep cheer leading, you are doing a grand job.
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Post by eppinggas on May 4, 2021 11:31:00 GMT
Nice to have you back irenestoyboy. Could I ask. Was swiss banned from gaschat? If so, what rules did he break? You can tell me it's none of my business if you like. It's just as Admin I've been sorely tempted to ban people who I vehemently disagree with, but I respect freedom of speech. Been a bit of a break since March 12th. Surprised you have time to moderate gaschat and monitor this tiny forum of independent thought. Fair play to you. I don't always agree with swiss. But he is always measured and constructive in his criticism of Wael Al-Qadi. People who don't like what he has to say can come across as very rude. And they make personal insults, rather than valid points. It's almost as if they've been personally stung by the criticism.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 12:25:49 GMT
Blimey, there's some self important twaddle on here.
Anyone else renewed yet? Getting mine tomorrow as didn't renew this season as there was never a chance of watching any games at The Mem.
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Post by holmesgas1 on May 4, 2021 12:27:42 GMT
Nice to have you back irenestoyboy. Could I ask. Was swiss banned from gaschat? If so, what rules did he break? You can tell me it's none of my business if you like. It's just as Admin I've been sorely tempted to ban people who I vehemently disagree with, but I respect freedom of speech. Been a bit of a break since March 12th. Surprised you have time to moderate gaschat and monitor this tiny forum of independent thought. Fair play to you. I don't always agree with swiss. But he is always measured and constructive in his criticism of Wael Al-Qadi. People who don't like what he has to say can come across as very rude. And they make personal insults, rather than valid points. It's almost as if they've been personally stung by the criticism. Eppinggas you oversight aspirations are laudable and exactly how they should be, but one of the issues I think some of us have with here is they state things as "fact", it's like reading a conspiracy site at times. Some are taken in by it, but others challenge it, and then people become very defensive. The Dunford comments above is a great example. How anybody could read that somebody was being disrespectful to Dennis and Geoff I do not know. How ever "morale high ground" is used as a major deflection on the valid questions asked, with aim of not getting into a true discussion. Is this because they do not know how to answer?
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 4, 2021 12:31:50 GMT
Nice to have you back irenestoyboy. Could I ask. Was swiss banned from gaschat? If so, what rules did he break? You can tell me it's none of my business if you like. It's just as Admin I've been sorely tempted to ban people who I vehemently disagree with, but I respect freedom of speech. Been a bit of a break since March 12th. Surprised you have time to moderate gaschat and monitor this tiny forum of independent thought. Fair play to you. I don't always agree with swiss. But he is always measured and constructive in his criticism of Wael Al-Qadi. People who don't like what he has to say can come across as very rude. And they make personal insults, rather than valid points. It's almost as if they've been personally stung by the criticism. Thanks Epping. You’re right, I don’t come here often and comment, but look in regularly to see what’s being discussed. Sometimes stuff being discussed here isn’t worth my commenting as I either largely agree with what’s being said amd for the sake of repetition there’s nothing to add or the vibe is so overly negative getting involved wouldnt be constructive. I’m sure we all post with passion and that always comes through regardless of what’s being discussed. As regards Swiss banning, From memory we had a fraught Saturday when only 2 mods were online (me being one of them and I was dealing with another situation) and there was a degree of posters wumming each other of which 2 were attacking me personally. Swiss got mixed up in that somehow and was banned by another mod. The following day when it had settled down and more mods were online it was determined that Swiss was banned in error and reinstated. I think it was explained by Axegas at the time quite clearly.
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