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Post by eppinggas on Apr 29, 2021 8:21:50 GMT
News to me. Happy to be corrected if that's the case. Still shows how fortunes can change quickly and how losing can become a habit that's difficult to shake off. Anyway, as I see it, our primary objective at this stage is to avoid relegation from L2. Totally agree We have to get rid of this "obviously we're going to bounce straight back" mentality. Both seasons after relegations to tier 4 we struggled. Some Gasheads (laughably) think we're a "Big Club", and expect some kind of God given right to bounce straight back up. 2001-2002 finished 23rd. Only escaped a consecutive relegation as only 1 went down that season (the last time that happened, take a bow, Halifax). 2011-2012 finished 13th. 2012-2013 finished 14th. 2013-2014 relegated. I am accused by some of being a miserable cynic at times. Guilty as charged. But I fear that we have far greater chance of repeating the 2001-2002 season than many believe. We need stability. A steady hand. We have installed an unstable volatile character as our manager. If he's still in charge in August, I dread to think where we will be by Christmas.
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Post by bondigas on Apr 29, 2021 9:41:55 GMT
I couldn't agree more with you, if you cast your eye over the Pravda forum you wouldn't believe the club has been relegated. I'd also love to be a fly on the wall and listen to what B***** is telling the owner about his trial and it's outcome on June 7th. The reignite launch yesterday was just cringeworthy, what a lost opportunity to promote a better brave new world for the club starting from afresh but after the season ends in 10 days time not now. Then they could announced the players and coaches retained list along with the back of house staff and directors clear out, giving everyone a sense of a new direction. When is the invincible Gorringe commercial Div 2 revival launch going to take place or was that it yesterday, when are they going to announce this seasons season ticket refund option, from what I have read it's not an option just a given forfeiture. If everything going forward is as shallow and deluded as the owners interview on Points West on Monday then we will be in for a hard time even with a new manager in charge. I believe the Crown Prosecutors opening statement will be enough to irreparably damage B*****'s credibility at the trial and leave the owner no option but to invite him to leave. What a shambles on top of watching Morecambe, Harrogate, Sutton Utd, Forest Green, Stevenage, Crawley, Barrow and possibly Torquay.
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Post by mangogas15 on Apr 29, 2021 10:53:06 GMT
This season we basically said to the forwards, you have to score at least 2 goals per game and sometimes 3 every other game because we will guarantee the opposition 1.5 goals per game minimum.
Where is the mindset to keep a clean sheet. Do they think they're not allowed to?
Fake footballers as JB said. Pretending.
No wonder the kids didn't score.
It's not just strikers we need. We need leaders.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 29, 2021 12:02:15 GMT
I couldn't agree more with you, if you cast your eye over the Pravda forum you wouldn't believe the club has been relegated. I'd also love to be a fly on the wall and listen to what B***** is telling the owner about his trial and it's outcome on June 7th. The reignite launch yesterday was just cringeworthy, what a lost opportunity to promote a better brave new world for the club starting from afresh but after the season ends in 10 days time not now. Then they could announced the players and coaches retained list along with the back of house staff and directors clear out, giving everyone a sense of a new direction. When is the invincible Gorringe commercial Div 2 revival launch going to take place or was that it yesterday, when are they going to announce this seasons season ticket refund option, from what I have read it's not an option just a given forfeiture. If everything going forward is as shallow and deluded as the owners interview on Points West on Monday then we will be in for a hard time even with a new manager in charge. I believe the Crown Prosecutors opening statement will be enough to irreparably damage B*****'s credibility at the trial and leave the owner no option but to invite him to leave. What a shambles on top of watching Morecambe, Harrogate, Sutton Utd, Forest Green, Stevenage, Crawley, Barrow and possibly Torquay. Absolutely nailed it. Thank you for articulating, much better than me, what I wanted to say. It’s an absolute shambles and we are continuing the make dreadful error upon error. City call us the gift, that keeps on giving. They must be laughing so much right now. Like eppinggas says, I think we have not seen the worst of it
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 29, 2021 12:09:59 GMT
This season we basically said to the forwards, you have to score at least 2 goals per game and sometimes 3 every other game because we will guarantee the opposition 1.5 goals per game minimum. Where is the mindset to keep a clean sheet. Do they think they're not allowed to? Fake footballers as JB said. Pretending. No wonder the kids didn't score. It's not just strikers we need. We need leaders. Oh but we have a leader just that he has bewitched Wael and has been entrusted to take on everything. There is talk of some kind of statement of presser, this week. I think we normally do them on Thursdays but let’s see.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2021 13:36:17 GMT
I couldn't agree more with you, if you cast your eye over the Pravda forum you wouldn't believe the club has been relegated. I'd also love to be a fly on the wall and listen to what B***** is telling the owner about his trial and it's outcome on June 7th. The reignite launch yesterday was just cringeworthy, what a lost opportunity to promote a better brave new world for the club starting from afresh but after the season ends in 10 days time not now. Then they could announced the players and coaches retained list along with the back of house staff and directors clear out, giving everyone a sense of a new direction. When is the invincible Gorringe commercial Div 2 revival launch going to take place or was that it yesterday, when are they going to announce this seasons season ticket refund option, from what I have read it's not an option just a given forfeiture. If everything going forward is as shallow and deluded as the owners interview on Points West on Monday then we will be in for a hard time even with a new manager in charge. I believe the Crown Prosecutors opening statement will be enough to irreparably damage B*****'s credibility at the trial and leave the owner no option but to invite him to leave. What a shambles on top of watching Morecambe, Harrogate, Sutton Utd, Forest Green, Stevenage, Crawley, Barrow and possibly Torquay. Stage 1 I guess would be to see if any trial actually goes ahead? It may be that B***** knows something we don't? As an aside, was walking a dog yesterday with a Rovers' coat on and a complete stranger said to me 'Sorry you got relegated, but that B***** is horrible, he thinks he's a hard Man, I think he's just horrible, anyway, good luck next season'. Nice one Wael, that's how the community now view our club, well done, you must be proud.
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Post by bluetornados on Apr 29, 2021 14:33:24 GMT
It is not about who is in charge of us as manager in L2, it is about a clear out of players and providing funds to build a team to challenge for the play-off's at least.
I would like to see enough funds to pay decent wages for decent players, we have a few but we need many more, or similar trouble lies ahead as this season has done.
It is not rocket science, clear out and get in players.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 29, 2021 17:42:09 GMT
It is not about who is in charge of us as manager in L2, it is about a clear out of players and providing funds to build a team to challenge for the play-off's at least. I would like to see enough funds to pay decent wages for decent players, we have a few but we need many more, or similar trouble lies ahead as this season has done. It is not rocket science, clear out and get in players. Do you truly trust this manager to get that right ? Serious question
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2021 18:05:28 GMT
Wern't Wael's apologists banging on all last summer that he was making a good budget available?
It's just relentless twisting and turning to avoid what our position appears to demonstrate. Whoever is running this club isn't fit to sell cakes at a village fete.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2021 18:16:05 GMT
Bamber talks about whether the trial will even go ahead. That thought has been rattling around my old head for the last few weeks. The way B***** talks, it's as if he's fireproof and knows something that's not in the open yet.
Ah well, he'll be gone by November.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 29, 2021 19:36:42 GMT
Bamber talks about whether the trial will even go ahead. That thought has been rattling around my old head for the last few weeks. The way B***** talks, it's as if he's fireproof and knows something that's not in the open yet. Ah well, he'll be gone by November. Do you really think so Doc ?
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Post by bluetornados on Apr 29, 2021 19:45:55 GMT
It is not about who is in charge of us as manager in L2, it is about a clear out of players and providing funds to build a team to challenge for the play-off's at least. I would like to see enough funds to pay decent wages for decent players, we have a few but we need many more, or similar trouble lies ahead as this season has done. It is not rocket science, clear out and get in players. Do you truly trust this manager to get that right ? Serious question Well, I really am not bothered who is manager next season, even JB should be able to find a few decent players if funds were made available. It's all down to Wael to release funds for a realistic challenge for a play off place at least, half the squad needs replacing, then we might be on the right tracks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2021 20:10:20 GMT
Bamber talks about whether the trial will even go ahead. That thought has been rattling around my old head for the last few weeks. The way B***** talks, it's as if he's fireproof and knows something that's not in the open yet. Ah well, he'll be gone by November. Do you really think so Doc ? It's based on nothing other than my belief that the current alleged manager hasn't a clue how to manage a football club, hasn't a clue how to motivate and inspire and hasn't a clue about humility, class and reflection. He had ample opportunity to demonstrate those qualities this season and failed. The owner is unlikely to tolerate us being near the bottom of the league with a third of the season done and I'm certain we will be with B***** in charge. Please bookmark this thread as I hope to be wildly wrong.
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 30, 2021 8:01:38 GMT
Do you really think so Doc ? It's based on nothing other than my belief that the current alleged manager hasn't a clue how to manage a football club, hasn't a clue how to motivate and inspire and hasn't a clue about humility, class and reflection. He had ample opportunity to demonstrate those qualities this season and failed. The owner is unlikely to tolerate us being near the bottom of the league with a third of the season done and I'm certain we will be with B***** in charge. Please bookmark this thread as I hope to be wildly wrong. I don't think the CPS haven't indicated anything. Surely it would be unusual to drop a case that has been pending this long without new evidence coming to light? More likely that Mr B***** has blagged it. He's a chancer. Perhaps Wael and him are now utterly convinced of his innocence. They are as delusional as each other. Fair play to Mr B*****. Some people believe everything that comes out of his mouth. It wouldn't surprise me if there was is absolutely no plan in place should he be found guilty. This is Bristol Rovers we're talking about after all.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 9:36:51 GMT
It's based on nothing other than my belief that the current alleged manager hasn't a clue how to manage a football club, hasn't a clue how to motivate and inspire and hasn't a clue about humility, class and reflection. He had ample opportunity to demonstrate those qualities this season and failed. The owner is unlikely to tolerate us being near the bottom of the league with a third of the season done and I'm certain we will be with B***** in charge. Please bookmark this thread as I hope to be wildly wrong. I don't think the CPS haven't indicated anything. Surely it would be unusual to drop a case that has been pending this long without new evidence coming to light? More likely that Mr B***** has blagged it. He's a chancer. Perhaps Wael and him are now utterly convinced of his innocence. They are as delusional as each other. Fair play to Mr B*****. Some people believe everything that comes out of his mouth. It wouldn't surprise me if there was is absolutely no plan in place should he be found guilty. This is Bristol Rovers we're talking about after all. It may not hinge on what the CPS think, Punchy and his legal people may think they can waltz into court on day 1 and explain to the judge in 30 seconds flat why the case shouldn't / can't go ahead.
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 30, 2021 9:45:59 GMT
I don't think the CPS haven't indicated anything. Surely it would be unusual to drop a case that has been pending this long without new evidence coming to light? More likely that Mr B***** has blagged it. He's a chancer. Perhaps Wael and him are now utterly convinced of his innocence. They are as delusional as each other. Fair play to Mr B*****. Some people believe everything that comes out of his mouth. It wouldn't surprise me if there was is absolutely no plan in place should he be found guilty. This is Bristol Rovers we're talking about after all. It may not hinge on what the CPS think, Punchy and his legal people may think they can waltz into court on day 1 and explain to the judge in 30 seconds flat why the case shouldn't / can't go ahead. We shall see. Historically there's a 75% chance of a guilty verdict at Crown Court for violent offences. The odds would appear to be further stacked against Mr B***** though. As anyone on the jury may be prejudiced against him if they know anything about his past criminal record. (Of course his past cannot be discussed in Court and rightly so). But this is a high profile case and his reputation may precede him. Again. I don't want to see an innocent man found guilty. I want justice to be done. And we can take it from there.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 30, 2021 12:33:49 GMT
Bamber talks about whether the trial will even go ahead. That thought has been rattling around my old head for the last few weeks. The way B***** talks, it's as if he's fireproof and knows something that's not in the open yet. Ah well, he'll be gone by November. It seems incredible to think it won’t go ahead, after all the CPS must feel they have a strong case to present or it would have been dismissed already. JB does talk a good game, he always has done, but whether that’s credible or delusional I’m not sure and is he likely to know something that we (or the CPS) don’t know? It’s almost as if he’s blanked it out. Either way there’s so much uncertainty surrounding the club and circumstances may work against us. I can’t see players wanting to commit to us when unsure as to JBs position. And his latest interview makes it more or less impossible for him to work with this current squad next season. UTG!
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 30, 2021 12:41:20 GMT
Do you really think so Doc ? It's based on nothing other than my belief that the current alleged manager hasn't a clue how to manage a football club, hasn't a clue how to motivate and inspire and hasn't a clue about humility, class and reflection. He had ample opportunity to demonstrate those qualities this season and failed. The owner is unlikely to tolerate us being near the bottom of the league with a third of the season done and I'm certain we will be with B***** in charge. Please bookmark this thread as I hope to be wildly wrong. Thanks. I feel exactly the same way BUT I feel that El Presidente is both awestruck and a fanboy of the alleged manager. I have a genuine worry that we have not seen the worst of things and are in a terminal decline. There is just too much to go fully into, to show that El Pres makes diabolically poor decisions and I don’t see that changing, he will dig his heels in and double up on his hunch. I think there are a few here who can remember my posts about us being sold to the family, from the very start. I don’t want be say this as someone ITK but there are other things that are involved here but I could not write it on a public forum. I genuinely hope that I’m proved wrong but there is just too much evidence to show otherwise. At this rate, I doubt we will be needing a new place to play
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 30, 2021 12:47:51 GMT
It's based on nothing other than my belief that the current alleged manager hasn't a clue how to manage a football club, hasn't a clue how to motivate and inspire and hasn't a clue about humility, class and reflection. He had ample opportunity to demonstrate those qualities this season and failed. The owner is unlikely to tolerate us being near the bottom of the league with a third of the season done and I'm certain we will be with B***** in charge. Please bookmark this thread as I hope to be wildly wrong. I don't think the CPS haven't indicated anything. Surely it would be unusual to drop a case that has been pending this long without new evidence coming to light? More likely that Mr B***** has blagged it. He's a chancer. Perhaps Wael and him are now utterly convinced of his innocence. They are as delusional as each other. Fair play to Mr B*****. Some people believe everything that comes out of his mouth. It wouldn't surprise me if there was is absolutely no plan in place should he be found guilty. This is Bristol Rovers we're talking about after all. Joey B*****’s Bristol Rovers Ian. Doesn’t that make you feel nauseous?
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 30, 2021 13:13:36 GMT
I don't think the CPS haven't indicated anything. Surely it would be unusual to drop a case that has been pending this long without new evidence coming to light? More likely that Mr B***** has blagged it. He's a chancer. Perhaps Wael and him are now utterly convinced of his innocence. They are as delusional as each other. Fair play to Mr B*****. Some people believe everything that comes out of his mouth. It wouldn't surprise me if there was is absolutely no plan in place should he be found guilty. This is Bristol Rovers we're talking about after all. Joey B*****’s Bristol Rovers Ian. Doesn’t that make you feel nauseous? Disillusioned. Nauseous. Angry. That must be our DNA that Starnes was talking about.
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