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Post by emperorsuperbus on Apr 24, 2021 16:28:45 GMT
On topic.
There’s only 1. Don’t need a long list. Because although too many signings are interesting for the future, and how questionable some line ups and game management has been from all the managers, if just one thing was difffetent we would still be up and building for the future, painful though much of the season may have been.
1. it needed strikers for this level in even before Jono was sold. Through two windows it didn’t happen. Not even a loan like last seasons interesting loans.
The common denominator between our last two relegations was nothing happened in the winter window when rivals strengthened.
That’s what relegated us.
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Post by syg on Apr 24, 2021 17:59:05 GMT
You can't do it like this.
Its basically dominoes, Garner was a mistake and Tis wasn't able to bring in a striker. Then a load of players in a constantly changing environment who largely gave up.
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Post by phil74 on Apr 24, 2021 18:02:20 GMT
On topic. There’s only 1. Don’t need a long list. Because although too many signings are interesting for the future, and how questionable some line ups and game management has been from all the managers, if just one thing was difffetent we would still be up and building for the future, painful though much of the season may have been. 1. it needed strikers for this level in even before Jono was sold. Through two windows it didn’t happen. Not even a loan like last seasons interesting loans. The common denominator between our last two relegations was nothing happened in the winter window when rivals strengthened. That’s what relegated us. Absolutely. The recruitment of JCH papered over the cracks that were appearing after Matty Taylor and Billy Bodin left. "Goals were being sold out of the team". Remember? The reason I say "papering over the cracks" is that, JCH's goals aside, the whole team has struggled to score one goal a game for the last three years. I have mixed views about Joey, but surely even he will recognise that we need MORE THAN 3 STRIKERS in the entire squad? I would have thought that at least 2 of them need to be proven League Two target men.
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Post by laughinggas on Apr 24, 2021 18:35:07 GMT
I know it's a completely different level but Man U have bought in very experienced strikers, Zatan and Cavani, to help youngsters in recent seasons. Is there a lesson to be learnt?
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Post by richmace on Apr 24, 2021 19:23:05 GMT
On topic. There’s only 1. Don’t need a long list. Because although too many signings are interesting for the future, and how questionable some line ups and game management has been from all the managers, if just one thing was difffetent we would still be up and building for the future, painful though much of the season may have been. 1. it needed strikers for this level in even before Jono was sold. Through two windows it didn’t happen. Not even a loan like last seasons interesting loans. The common denominator between our last two relegations was nothing happened in the winter window when rivals strengthened. That’s what relegated us.
Yep. Any amount of clever analysis about game management or three managers in a season, or Wael's role, is largely irrelevant (albeit interesting).
We lost a lot of games by a single goal. Most of those without scoring a single goal ourselves.
The team is solid and not a million miles away from most of the teams in League One. If we had a striker who was scoring regularly during the last 10 games, we would be safe now.
That's what's annoying about this relegation.
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Post by mangogas15 on Apr 24, 2021 22:09:01 GMT
On topic. There’s only 1. Don’t need a long list. Because although too many signings are interesting for the future, and how questionable some line ups and game management has been from all the managers, if just one thing was difffetent we would still be up and building for the future, painful though much of the season may have been. 1. it needed strikers for this level in even before Jono was sold. Through two windows it didn’t happen. Not even a loan like last seasons interesting loans. The common denominator between our last two relegations was nothing happened in the winter window when rivals strengthened. That’s what relegated us.
Yep. Any amount of clever analysis about game management or three managers in a season, or Wael's role, is largely irrelevant (albeit interesting).
We lost a lot of games by a single goal. Most of those without scoring a single goal ourselves.
The team is solid and not a million miles away from most of the teams in League One. If we had a striker who was scoring regularly during the last 10 games, we would be safe now.
That's what's annoying about this relegation.
We were 5 wins away from safety though, not 1 or 2.
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Post by richmace on Apr 24, 2021 22:24:57 GMT
Yep. Any amount of clever analysis about game management or three managers in a season, or Wael's role, is largely irrelevant (albeit interesting).
We lost a lot of games by a single goal. Most of those without scoring a single goal ourselves.
The team is solid and not a million miles away from most of the teams in League One. If we had a striker who was scoring regularly during the last 10 games, we would be safe now.
That's what's annoying about this relegation.
We were 5 wins away from safety though, not 1 or 2. It does not take much stretch of the imagination to turn 0-1 losses into 2-1 victories, or a 0-0 draw into a 1-0 victory.
The fact that a striker has not scored a single goal in the last 14 games is the story of the season. How often does that happen? I don't remember this happening before during my time following Rovers.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Apr 25, 2021 3:05:25 GMT
We were 5 wins away from safety though, not 1 or 2. It does not take much stretch of the imagination to turn 0-1 losses into 2-1 victories, or a 0-0 draw into a 1-0 victory.
The fact that a striker has not scored a single goal in the last 14 games is the story of the season. How often does that happen? I don't remember this happening before during my time following Rovers.
We agree on this Macey. Like you said, not complicated. Every fan has known for last 10 months it needed more forward power, this end of season run does not come as a shock. That the club didn’t address in two windows, or as Phil points out, and the windows before that, is what relegated us. The 4 involved upfront today might go on to be good when between 25-31, but as a young group now they are not ready. Too many eggs on too unproven basket. In a way it’s unfair to give them stick, because it’s not like they have set league football alive with goals before. It’s the club that stuck them out there in that firing line that are culpable. clarke achieved success here, liked to have 2 on pitch and 2 on bench and at least 1 on loan. and I don’t just mean unproven youngsters. And there is a blend as well. WE MISSED TOMMY NICHOLS NOT JUST JONO. There I said it. And it’s true. When Cocko won at Ipswich, Jono wasn’t even playing. anyone who posts, a few extra goals wouldn’t have made much difference hasn’t been paying attention the last couple of months. From Sunderland last month to Portsmouth today, scoring that first goal made all the difference to how the game then panned out.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Apr 25, 2021 5:46:00 GMT
We're going down because B***** didn't have the football brain to win more than 11 points out of a possible 48. He doesn't know what he's doing.
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Post by mangogas15 on Apr 25, 2021 6:05:33 GMT
We were 5 wins away from safety though, not 1 or 2. It does not take much stretch of the imagination to turn 0-1 losses into 2-1 victories, or a 0-0 draw into a 1-0 victory.
The fact that a striker has not scored a single goal in the last 14 games is the story of the season. How often does that happen? I don't remember this happening before during my time following Rovers.
That's right, but only 2 or 3 of our 10 wins were comfortable, who are we kidding that this group had the mentality to win a game 1-0? No late winners, no late equalisers, no Gas qualities.
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Post by mangogas15 on Apr 25, 2021 6:06:35 GMT
We're going down because B***** didn't have the football brain to win more than 11 points out of a possible 48. He doesn't know what he's doing. Harsh. He underestimated the issues and ultimately failed in keeping us up, but i don't know who else could have got a tune out of that group.
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Post by The Concept on Apr 25, 2021 6:58:50 GMT
On topic. There’s only 1. Don’t need a long list. Because although too many signings are interesting for the future, and how questionable some line ups and game management has been from all the managers, if just one thing was difffetent we would still be up and building for the future, painful though much of the season may have been. 1. it needed strikers for this level in even before Jono was sold. Through two windows it didn’t happen. Not even a loan like last seasons interesting loans. The common denominator between our last two relegations was nothing happened in the winter window when rivals strengthened. That’s what relegated us.
Yep. Any amount of clever analysis about game management or three managers in a season, or Wael's role, is largely irrelevant (albeit interesting).
We lost a lot of games by a single goal. Most of those without scoring a single goal ourselves.
The team is solid and not a million miles away from most of the teams in League One. If we had a striker who was scoring regularly during the last 10 games, we would be safe now.
That's what's annoying about this relegation.
Agreed. I keep reading on social media that the players are sh*te, and hearing the same sort of thing from the current manager. But we're not getting thrashed every week; we've not been played off the park each week. Most of these players may go on to be a success in other Tier 3 teams in the future. They're not sh*te players - they're just not quite good enough as a team at this level.
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Post by richmace on Apr 25, 2021 8:29:27 GMT
It does not take much stretch of the imagination to turn 0-1 losses into 2-1 victories, or a 0-0 draw into a 1-0 victory.
The fact that a striker has not scored a single goal in the last 14 games is the story of the season. How often does that happen? I don't remember this happening before during my time following Rovers.
That's right, but only 2 or 3 of our 10 wins were comfortable, who are we kidding that this group had the mentality to win a game 1-0? No late winners, no late equalisers, no Gas qualities. Absolutely. Nothing this season ever felt comfortable.
I can't fault the players for effort. They tried and tried to attack. They created good chances. Just could not score.
Agree that the group as a whole lacked the mindset to be successful. Hopefully a number of individuals can now be brought in to help this young team to teach that winning mindset.
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Post by mangogas15 on Apr 25, 2021 8:39:32 GMT
That's right, but only 2 or 3 of our 10 wins were comfortable, who are we kidding that this group had the mentality to win a game 1-0? No late winners, no late equalisers, no Gas qualities. Absolutely. Nothing this season ever felt comfortable.
I can't fault the players for effort. They tried and tried to attack. They created good chances. Just could not score.
Agree that the group as a whole lacked the mindset to be successful. Hopefully a number of individuals can now be brought in to help this young team to teach that winning mindset.
Totally agree mate. I bought into binning Craig and Agogo last year but for every Bodin we had a Sinclair and a Machrystal, or for a Holloway and Penrice.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 25, 2021 10:08:58 GMT
Still not seeing it but never mind. It's all over now and Rovers are once again a league 2 club and you can't say we don't deserve to be there. Oh yeah and Wael wrote off £18m You are conveniently bypassing the charge but it’s all his anyway, whichever way. He can do as he wishes. I find that very disconcerting, given how he spent the money he has, only to be relegated
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Post by mangogas15 on Apr 25, 2021 18:38:56 GMT
Oh yeah and Wael wrote off £18m You are conveniently bypassing the charge but it’s all his anyway, whichever way. He can do as he wishes. I find that very disconcerting, given how he spent the money he has, only to be relegated We can come back
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