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Post by mangogas15 on Apr 24, 2021 10:05:58 GMT
I listened to the Gas Cast Podcast yesterday and they gave each other 6 moments to rank as most pivotal in Rovers relegation.
Rank in order of importance. Mine are:
1. Tisdale January window
2. Sacking Garner and appointing Tisdale
3. Garner summer recruitment
4. Appointing B*****
5. Injuries
6. Not sacking Garner in summer.
Also asked each other for % blame for the 3 managers
Mine are:
Tisdale 80%
Garner 20%
B***** 0%
I am fully behind him until he gives me reason not to be. They are not his players and the project though brave did not work. It was an unmitigated disaster.
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Post by basel on Apr 24, 2021 10:10:02 GMT
WAQ not trying to keep GC.
WAQs fantasy football plan.Naive.
WAQ hiring BG.
TW selection of signings.
BG was a useless manager and should of been sacked sooner.
Paul Tisdale sacking.A mistake.
I don't put any blame on Joey B*****
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 24, 2021 10:19:14 GMT
1 Wael’s decision to go for pretty football
2. Wael hiring a rookie manager
3. Wael not backing DC
4. Wael giving Widdrington a place on the board
5. Wael not seeing his errors and sacking Garner
6. Wael hiring a CEO who Plymouth were more than happy to be rid of
My percentage. 100% the owners fault
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 24, 2021 10:20:56 GMT
I listened to the Gas Cast Podcast yesterday and they gave each other 6 moments to rank as most pivotal in Rovers relegation. Rank in order of importance. Mine are: 1. Tisdale January window 2. Sacking Garner and appointing Tisdale 3. Garner summer recruitment 4. Appointing B***** 5. Injuries 6. Not sacking Garner in summer. Also asked each other for % blame for the 3 managers Mine are: Tisdale 80% Garner 20% B***** 0% I am fully behind him until he gives me reason not to be. They are not his players and the project though brave did not work. It was an unmitigated disaster. Can you quantify how this was 80% Tisdale fault ? As I understand it, he gave a list of 5 strikers and we got none of them |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 10:28:48 GMT
I listened to the Gas Cast Podcast yesterday and they gave each other 6 moments to rank as most pivotal in Rovers relegation. Rank in order of importance. Mine are: 1. Tisdale January window 2. Sacking Garner and appointing Tisdale 3. Garner summer recruitment 4. Appointing B***** 5. Injuries 6. Not sacking Garner in summer. Also asked each other for % blame for the 3 managers Mine are: Tisdale 80% Garner 20% B***** 0% I am fully behind him until he gives me reason not to be. They are not his players and the project though brave did not work. It was an unmitigated disaster. You are joking. We only dropped into a relegation place one B***** arrived so it's 50% fault to him, 40% Garner and 10% Tisdale. As for the January window, I had an hour long chat with a scout yesterday who told me which strikers were available in January and he told me that Rovers DOF made no effort to sign any of them. Tisdale alone pursued Stockley who for whatever reason went to Charlton. I was against Tisdale being appointed but to use him as the reason for our demise back into League 2 is wrong. IMHO. |
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Post by basel on Apr 24, 2021 10:40:12 GMT
I listened to the Gas Cast Podcast yesterday and they gave each other 6 moments to rank as most pivotal in Rovers relegation. Rank in order of importance. Mine are: 1. Tisdale January window 2. Sacking Garner and appointing Tisdale 3. Garner summer recruitment 4. Appointing B***** 5. Injuries 6. Not sacking Garner in summer. Also asked each other for % blame for the 3 managers Mine are: Tisdale 80% Garner 20% B***** 0% I am fully behind him until he gives me reason not to be. They are not his players and the project though brave did not work. It was an unmitigated disaster. You are joking. We only dropped into a relegation place one B***** arrived so it's 50% fault to him, 40% Garner and 10% Tisdale. As for the January window, I had an hour long chat with a scout yesterday who told me which strikers were available in January and he told me that Rovers DOF made no effort to sign any of them. Tisdale alone pursued Stockley who for whatever reason went to Charlton. I was against Tisdale being appointed but to use him as the reason for our demise back into League 2 is wrong. IMHO. The ship was sinking before JB arrived. As DC was not to blame for dropping out of the EFL,JB is not to blame for the nonsense that went on prior to his arrival. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 10:42:38 GMT
You are joking. We only dropped into a relegation place one B***** arrived so it's 50% fault to him, 40% Garner and 10% Tisdale. As for the January window, I had an hour long chat with a scout yesterday who told me which strikers were available in January and he told me that Rovers DOF made no effort to sign any of them. Tisdale alone pursued Stockley who for whatever reason went to Charlton. I was against Tisdale being appointed but to use him as the reason for our demise back into League 2 is wrong. IMHO. The ship was sinking before JB arrived. As DC was not to blame for dropping out of the EFL,JB is not to blame for the nonsense that went on prior to his arrival. Well at least I have been consistent, I have always said that DC was partly responsible for our demise as a FL club but he was given time to redeem himself and what a great job he did of that. |
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Post by basel on Apr 24, 2021 10:48:55 GMT
The ship was sinking before JB arrived. As DC was not to blame for dropping out of the EFL,JB is not to blame for the nonsense that went on prior to his arrival. Well at least I have been consistent, I have always said that DC was partly responsible for our demise as a FL club but he was given time to redeem himself and what a great job he did of that. "Time to redeem himself" 👍 |
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Post by rowdenhill on Apr 24, 2021 11:17:10 GMT
1 Wael’s decision to go for pretty football 2. Wael hiring a rookie manager 3. Wael not backing DC 4. Wael giving Widdrington a place on the board 5. Wael not seeing his errors and sacking Garner 6. Wael hiring a CEO who Plymouth were more than happy to be rid of My percentage. 100% the owners fault KP is entirely right. Wail is ultimately responsible for the whole of the debacle. Wail is a simpleton. A fool out of his depth. The sooner he packs off, the better. |
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Post by mangogas15 on Apr 24, 2021 12:39:59 GMT
My fault
The 6 options i gave were the only options.
So just rank them in order.
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Post by mangogas15 on Apr 24, 2021 12:40:19 GMT
1 Wael’s decision to go for pretty football 2. Wael hiring a rookie manager 3. Wael not backing DC 4. Wael giving Widdrington a place on the board 5. Wael not seeing his errors and sacking Garner 6. Wael hiring a CEO who Plymouth were more than happy to be rid of My percentage. 100% the owners fault KP is entirely right. Wail is ultimately responsible for the whole of the debacle. Wail is a simpleton. A fool out of his depth. The sooner he packs off, the better. Careful what you wish for |
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Post by mangogas15 on Apr 24, 2021 12:42:18 GMT
I listened to the Gas Cast Podcast yesterday and they gave each other 6 moments to rank as most pivotal in Rovers relegation. Rank in order of importance. Mine are: 1. Tisdale January window 2. Sacking Garner and appointing Tisdale 3. Garner summer recruitment 4. Appointing B***** 5. Injuries 6. Not sacking Garner in summer. Also asked each other for % blame for the 3 managers Mine are: Tisdale 80% Garner 20% B***** 0% I am fully behind him until he gives me reason not to be. They are not his players and the project though brave did not work. It was an unmitigated disaster. You are joking. We only dropped into a relegation place one B***** arrived so it's 50% fault to him, 40% Garner and 10% Tisdale. As for the January window, I had an hour long chat with a scout yesterday who told me which strikers were available in January and he told me that Rovers DOF made no effort to sign any of them. Tisdale alone pursued Stockley who for whatever reason went to Charlton. I was against Tisdale being appointed but to use him as the reason for our demise back into League 2 is wrong. IMHO. Tisdale had from November to Feb to decide on a plan b if he didn't get Stockley. We should gave signed someone on 1st jan. No I'm not joking |
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Post by mangogas15 on Apr 24, 2021 12:42:39 GMT
I listened to the Gas Cast Podcast yesterday and they gave each other 6 moments to rank as most pivotal in Rovers relegation. Rank in order of importance. Mine are: 1. Tisdale January window 2. Sacking Garner and appointing Tisdale 3. Garner summer recruitment 4. Appointing B***** 5. Injuries 6. Not sacking Garner in summer. Also asked each other for % blame for the 3 managers Mine are: Tisdale 80% Garner 20% B***** 0% I am fully behind him until he gives me reason not to be. They are not his players and the project though brave did not work. It was an unmitigated disaster. Can you quantify how this was 80% Tisdale fault ? As I understand it, he gave a list of 5 strikers and we got none of them Which 5 were they? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 12:53:59 GMT
You are joking. We only dropped into a relegation place one B***** arrived so it's 50% fault to him, 40% Garner and 10% Tisdale. As for the January window, I had an hour long chat with a scout yesterday who told me which strikers were available in January and he told me that Rovers DOF made no effort to sign any of them. Tisdale alone pursued Stockley who for whatever reason went to Charlton. I was against Tisdale being appointed but to use him as the reason for our demise back into League 2 is wrong. IMHO. Tisdale had from November to Feb to decide on a plan b if he didn't get Stockley. We should gave signed someone on 1st jan. No I'm not joking I think Tisdale would agree with you in fact he said so the eve before his sacking. Ok not joking but missing where the blame lies. |
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Post by mangogas15 on Apr 24, 2021 13:50:47 GMT
Tisdale had from November to Feb to decide on a plan b if he didn't get Stockley. We should gave signed someone on 1st jan. No I'm not joking I think Tisdale would agree with you in fact he said so the eve before his sacking. Ok not joking but missing where the blame lies. Ultimately Wael has abandoned the big plan as it didn't work. He believed in what TW and BG were saying, but kept TW in fact promoted him when he sacked BG. Tisdale is the man for this type of squad, but he drained every ounce of confidence from them after a half decent start, wasted the window and gave B***** no chance. Shouldn't have sacked Garner so early, but Tisdale is an experienced manager who should have done better with his january window. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 13:57:44 GMT
I think Tisdale would agree with you in fact he said so the eve before his sacking. Ok not joking but missing where the blame lies. Ultimately Wael has abandoned the big plan as it didn't work. He believed in what TW and BG were saying, but kept TW in fact promoted him when he sacked BG. Tisdale is the man for this type of squad, but he drained every ounce of confidence from them after a half decent start, wasted the window and gave B***** no chance. Shouldn't have sacked Garner so early, but Tisdale is an experienced manager who should have done better with his january window. Still not seeing it but never mind. It's all over now and Rovers are once again a league 2 club and you can't say we don't deserve to be there. |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Apr 24, 2021 14:04:12 GMT
You are joking. We only dropped into a relegation place one B***** arrived so it's 50% fault to him, 40% Garner and 10% Tisdale. As for the January window, I had an hour long chat with a scout yesterday who told me which strikers were available in January and he told me that Rovers DOF made no effort to sign any of them. Tisdale alone pursued Stockley who for whatever reason went to Charlton. I was against Tisdale being appointed but to use him as the reason for our demise back into League 2 is wrong. IMHO. The ship was sinking before JB arrived. As DC was not to blame for dropping out of the EFL,JB is not to blame for the nonsense that went on prior to his arrival. so not just me impressed with the way he has gone about his business. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 14:08:56 GMT
Well the season is over and the sun is shining so time to enjoy the summer.
Stay safe everyone.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Apr 24, 2021 14:17:15 GMT
I listened to the Gas Cast Podcast yesterday and they gave each other 6 moments to rank as most pivotal in Rovers relegation. Rank in order of importance. Mine are: 1. Tisdale January window 2. Sacking Garner and appointing Tisdale 3. Garner summer recruitment 4. Appointing B***** 5. Injuries 6. Not sacking Garner in summer. Also asked each other for % blame for the 3 managers Mine are: Tisdale 80% Garner 20% B***** 0% I am fully behind him until he gives me reason not to be. They are not his players and the project though brave did not work. It was an unmitigated disaster. Totally agree Mango, they must hold onto B***** regardless what a court may or may not say. If B***** can bring in players of his ilk the future is bright here. What a footballing brain in this guy. |
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Post by mangogas15 on Apr 24, 2021 14:39:32 GMT
Ultimately Wael has abandoned the big plan as it didn't work. He believed in what TW and BG were saying, but kept TW in fact promoted him when he sacked BG. Tisdale is the man for this type of squad, but he drained every ounce of confidence from them after a half decent start, wasted the window and gave B***** no chance. Shouldn't have sacked Garner so early, but Tisdale is an experienced manager who should have done better with his january window. Still not seeing it but never mind. It's all over now and Rovers are once again a league 2 club and you can't say we don't deserve to be there. Oh yeah and Wael wrote off £18m |
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