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Post by hungerfordgas on Apr 8, 2021 16:06:37 GMT
Apologies if the following has been discussed previously and I have missed it!
After the numerous comments in recent weeks about officials affecting results I was surprised that our winning goal on Monday hasn't been discussed. Despite it being a cracking finish by LM, had it been scored against us, I'm sure the fact that Brandon was in an offside position right in front of the goalie wouldn't have gone unnoticed by JB! Couldn't believe the Donny players didn't complain, or am I missing something?
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Post by TaiwanGas on Apr 8, 2021 16:14:37 GMT
I spotted it, did not realise that Brandon was in an offside position!, it goes some way to explain why he turned away as the ball hit the back of the net and casually strolled back up the pitch without celebrating Luke's goal, did not want to draw attention to his positioning I guess.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 8, 2021 16:24:55 GMT
At the time I don't think there was much complaint by Donny defence or keeper?
I think they accepted the goal as most did...
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Post by bluetornados on Apr 8, 2021 16:53:27 GMT
Apologies if the following has been discussed previously and I have missed it! After the numerous comments in recent weeks about officials affecting results I was surprised that our winning goal on Monday hasn't been discussed. Despite it being a cracking finish by LM, had it been scored against us, I'm sure the fact that Brandon was in an offside position right in front of the goalie wouldn't have gone unnoticed by JB! Couldn't believe the Donny players didn't complain, or am I missing something? This happened in the Leicester v Man. City match on saturday, Fernandinho shot just outside the penalty area, but a player was standing right in front of Schmeichel so did not count. |
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Post by keygas on Apr 8, 2021 20:08:57 GMT
All I can say is it’s a good job Brett Pitman was not playing for Donny, as it was his complaining to the officials that got Westbrook’s goal against Swindon ruled out.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 23:16:20 GMT
As much as I don’t like it, the persecution of officials over the years by the likes of Ferguson, Wenger and Mourinho I’m quite sure has paid dividends for them.
Now our beloved BRFC do not carry the same weight as the clubs of those mentioned above.
But if B*****’s almost obsessive tirade against referees does go on to pay similar dividends and we start to benefit from referees afraid of upsetting him then I take my hat off to him.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 9, 2021 15:08:53 GMT
Yes hungerford, it’s a good point. But I thought Hanlan was just about level with the post and when the ball went in the net the keeper and Hanlan were close. But the keeper moved towards it so when McC shot he probably had full sight of the ball but ended up with Hanlan after his dive and movement.
As you say it’s the “rub of the green” but after some of the “rub of the greens” we’ve had recently perhaps some “rub of the greens are more “rub of the greens” than some.
UTG!
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Post by The Concept on Apr 10, 2021 8:26:03 GMT
Yes, it was mentioned on the Matchday Thread, and I've seen discussion elsewhere on social media.
I don't think we could have grumbled if the goal had been chalked off, and we certainly wouldn't have been happy if it had been scored against us.
The surprise was that the Doncaster players didn't pick up on it, whereas the Swindon players made a big fuss to the officials.
If we had VAR I'm sure the goal against Swindon would have stood, and the goal against Doncaster may well have been disallowed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2021 12:21:31 GMT
On the subject of referees, does anyone remember Kevin Lynch? He sent off 4 Rovers players at Wigan in the late 90s, if I remember rightly several of them were very harsh, Geoff Dunford certainly thought so after the game!
He now markets himself as an after dinner speaker with an autobiography on the back of proclaiming himself “the most controversial referee seen in the UK” with our Wigan game a particular career highlight.
I wonder at what point of his career he realised there was money to be made from giving bad decisions?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 10, 2021 12:30:57 GMT
On the subject of referees, does anyone remember Kevin Lynch? He sent off 4 Rovers players at Wigan in the late 90s, if I remember rightly several of them were very harsh, Geoff Dunford certainly thought so after the game! He now markets himself as an after dinner speaker with an autobiography on the back of proclaiming himself “the most controversial referee seen in the UK” with our Wigan game a particular career highlight. I wonder at what point of his career he realised there was money to be made from giving bad decisions? I remember him & it. It seems controversy and controversial people are like celebrities nowadays. If you are the kind of person that can be nasty and live with it , you can make a living from it. You can monetise YouTube videos and be an influencer on social media platforms. There has been much change in the world and I see this as a very nasty part of it. I don’t think any referees have done so though. As I grew up, when I watched football with family, we were pretty happy when Pierluigi Collina was the ref |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2021 12:39:40 GMT
As much as I don’t like it, the persecution of officials over the years by the likes of Ferguson, Wenger and Mourinho I’m quite sure has paid dividends for them. Now our beloved BRFC do not carry the same weight as the clubs of those mentioned above. But if B*****’s almost obsessive tirade against referees does go on to pay similar dividends and we start to benefit from referees afraid of upsetting him then I take my hat off to him. The difference might be that the 3 managers mentioned above could have got officials questioning themselves, all B***** will do is annoy them and make them less likely to view anything to do with him sympathetically. Decisions at this level are a complete lottery anyway, layer on to that, the authorities have no problem with their officials creating 'talking points' (that's code for cheating) and you may as well just ask them before kick off if they would mind awfully telling you what score they've decided on? |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 10, 2021 12:47:51 GMT
As much as I don’t like it, the persecution of officials over the years by the likes of Ferguson, Wenger and Mourinho I’m quite sure has paid dividends for them. Now our beloved BRFC do not carry the same weight as the clubs of those mentioned above. But if B*****’s almost obsessive tirade against referees does go on to pay similar dividends and we start to benefit from referees afraid of upsetting him then I take my hat off to him. The difference might be that the 3 managers mentioned above could have got officials questioning themselves, all B***** will do is annoy them and make them less likely to view anything to do with him sympathetically. Decisions at this level are a complete lottery anyway, layer on to that, the authorities have no problem with their officials creating 'talking points' (that's code for cheating) and you may as well just ask them before kick off if they would mind awfully telling you what score they've decided on? I just think harassing officials is just another form of cheating and I strongly dislike any kind of cheating, by players and officials |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 10, 2021 13:11:27 GMT
On the subject of referees, does anyone remember Kevin Lynch? He sent off 4 Rovers players at Wigan in the late 90s, if I remember rightly several of them were very harsh, Geoff Dunford certainly thought so after the game! He now markets himself as an after dinner speaker with an autobiography on the back of proclaiming himself “the most controversial referee seen in the UK” with our Wigan game a particular career highlight. I wonder at what point of his career he realised there was money to be made from giving bad decisions? Bloody hell, is that true? There should be some sort of litigation as that's immoral. Do I not like that! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2021 13:47:05 GMT
On the subject of referees, does anyone remember Kevin Lynch? He sent off 4 Rovers players at Wigan in the late 90s, if I remember rightly several of them were very harsh, Geoff Dunford certainly thought so after the game! He now markets himself as an after dinner speaker with an autobiography on the back of proclaiming himself “the most controversial referee seen in the UK” with our Wigan game a particular career highlight. I wonder at what point of his career he realised there was money to be made from giving bad decisions? Bloody hell, is that true? There should be some sort of litigation as that's immoral. Do I not like that! Yes, if you google Kevin Lynch referee you’ll see his webpage plus other sites advertising him as a speaker. Basically as a celebrity bad referee, like Eddie the eagle in black |
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Post by laughinggas on Apr 11, 2021 8:40:24 GMT
Should Baldwin have been sent off as it was a last man challenge? Not even booked!
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 11, 2021 9:02:36 GMT
Should Baldwin have been sent off as it was a last man challenge? Not even booked! I honestly think if he hadn't had fouled, their striker wasn't going to score. He didn't have the ball under complete control as it appeared to be running away from him, and they score very few goals in open play... All hypothesis now....we are where we are and it's almost done and (JAB favourite buzz word) dusted. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 9:06:15 GMT
Should Baldwin have been sent off as it was a last man challenge? Not even booked! I honestly think if he hadn't had fouled, their striker wasn't going to score. He didn't have the ball under complete control as it appeared to be running away from him, and they score very few goals in open play... All hypothesis now....we are where we are and it's almost done and (JAB favourite buzz word) dusted. It was an almost embarrassing penalty. The referees assistant was in line when contact was made and flagged immediately. |
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Post by The Concept on Apr 11, 2021 9:30:21 GMT
Should Baldwin have been sent off as it was a last man challenge? Not even booked! I honestly think if he hadn't had fouled, their striker wasn't going to score. He didn't have the ball under complete control as it appeared to be running away from him, and they score very few goals in open play... All hypothesis now....we are where we are and it's almost done and (JAB favourite buzz word) dusted. Agreed. Even if he'd have got the ball, it would have been by the line and a tight angle, plus Williams would have been back to cover. Needless foul. It reminded me of not rolling away at the ruck in rugby - the player knows what he's doing and makes out to the referee he can't avoid the situation. Baldwin sort of rolls into the player and tries to make it look like he couldn't avoid it. |
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