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Post by gasandproud on Mar 24, 2021 12:27:54 GMT
Just listened to JB's post match interview from last evening and he mentioned 'The Great Reset'. Sounds like he has had a conversation with the owner and they have decided upon a plan to take the club forward from next season irrespective of which league we are in. Interestingly that cannot be instigated now and must wait until the start of next season so I assume that sounds like a player / coaches / both re shuffle that cannot take place yet. This talk of 'The Great Reset' comes circa 4-5 months after MS said in an interview said something along the lines of....We don't want to appoint managers who come to the club with a different set of ideas to ours / the DNA of the club as that tends to mean the players are all up in the air and causes chaos and a lack of continuity at the club! Now the above sums up for me and demonstrates the complete chaos and lack of direction the club has...In 4 months they have done exactly what they said they wouldn't!....Add into this fairly recent statements (around season ticket renewal time I believe) where MS mentioned having positive stadium news in a few weeks and then to hear absolutely nothing about that situation since. With a fan base like ours who have been waiting on positive stadium news and hanging onto the hope of a new stadium for 40 years that really is a very, very silly thing / cynical thing to say if you don't have something tied down 100% At worst statements are deliberately made up and put out to the supporters to simply keep us sweet and engage us for a while longer or at best they have absolutely no idea what they are doing from day to day, week to week and just react to the situation as it develops. I am hoping that 'The Great Reset' which is mentioned will be more than just a reset on the playing side and more so a reset of the entire mess the club is in. That should start at the top and include a reset on how the owner ultimately runs the club and who he employs / surrounds himself with or entrusts to run the club. If Wael cannot see right now the mess that we are in, quite frankly he never will and the situation truly is hopeless. I have been banging on for a while about a board of salaried individuals being the complete opposite of what you need in any organisation let alone at Bristol Rovers....What we are seeing now both on and off the field is a result of that very situation and structure. Its all completely wrong and needs changing fast before more damage is done. After 5 years we now look to be getting a great reset to change our fortunes which may or may not do the trick (until we know more its hard to judge). I realise that running Bristol Rovers like any lower league football club must be extremely difficult but is this really where we should be after 5 years under new ownership and a huge amount of investment / debt amassed (depending on your view)? The situation on and off the field cannot be solely attributed to managers, pandemics etc. If it was then every club would be in the same mess....and they aren't! Clubs with much, much lower income streams and with smaller support bases are putting us to shame in terms of how they are run and the results they are delivering on and off the field. I am neither massively upset of massively inspired by JB as manager, like most things I am ambivalent about it, as I am about Rovers as a whole at present. If they genuinely do have a great reset plan then I hope they get off the ground with that and unlike previous plans it isn't just a sound bite to make it look like things are going to move in the right direction. As Gas Heads we are used to having nothing and are used to being 'up against it' but we (I speak as I feel) have always had pride in the club (hence my username)....I'm sorry to say I no longer have much pride left as I see very little to be proud about. The club to outsiders must look like a laughing stock and the only thing I really have any pride in are the memories of how the supporters of the club have rallied in tough times previously. Other than that I find it more and more difficult to relate to the club or the individuals who run it. If I was looking at a reset plan my first thought would be to give the supporters something to be proud of again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 13:05:17 GMT
I should also imagine Wael wants to wait to see if B***** is still around after the June 6th trial and the following FA inquiry.
It would be a bit of a mess if the roof and walls have been demolished and the builder isn't around to finish the job that he has started.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 13:24:45 GMT
Another reset, brought to you by the same owner who brought you the last reset 15 months ago.
Why should anyone believe it’s going to be different this time?
Oh, because we’ve got Joey B***** doing it. Great.....how many great resets has he presided over again? None? Hang on, wait a minute. Didn’t we get into this mess in the first place by allowing a guy who didn’t have any experience of doing resets to do a reset? And we’re going to get relegated as a result. And you’re telling me we’re going to do the same thing again?!
Classic Bristol Rovers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 14:02:48 GMT
What the frigging heck is a 'reset'?
How about stopping talking borrocks and concentrating on winning some football matches B*****?
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Post by swissgas on Mar 24, 2021 15:30:20 GMT
If the OP is no longer happy with the "gasandproud" user name I would suggest he changes it to "heartandsoulgas" because that is clearly what he puts into his support for Rovers. And I think anyone who has run any kind of business, large or small, knows you have to put your heart and soul in to make a success of anything. If you put your heart and soul into a business you find yourself thinking about it all the time, you do massive amounts of research, explore all possibilities and take every bit of appropriate advice you can find. Then, when you finally make your decisions you know you've done everything you can to make sure they are the right ones and accept that you will have to live with the consequences. In my opinion Wael doesn't do this.
Listening to the manager last night I can only conclude that he has either been tricked into thinking he is going to be given a huge playing budget in the summer or he knows full well what the score is and chooses to play along with it to get him through till June. So, as is usual with Rovers, he can't go into detail but we are told about the "blueprint" and how the "correct components" will be brought into the club" and how it is all going to be wonderful.
The huge pile of chips gets smaller and smaller as the wheel constantly throws up the wrong numbers but the hangers on keep telling you your luck will change soon. Then, when those "trusted friends" have made their exit, someone whom you cannot ignore tells you the game is up with only a single option left under company law. And shortly afterwards one can imagine an Administrator saying " But you understand that if a deal can't be done today I shall have to liquidate ? "
With the response being. "I have a dozen first class investors waiting in the wings, they want me to still be involved and to rent the training ground from me, it is all going to be wonderful"
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Post by knowall on Mar 24, 2021 15:53:28 GMT
And time is running out - just like the money already has
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 15:56:56 GMT
And time is running out - just like the money already has Roy, you have been saying that for a few years now but there isn't any evidence to prove you right. The contractors are continuing at The Quarters and the players are getting paid unless they aren't and that is why they are performing so badly. Instead of chucking a bomb in and walking away, back your comments up with some evidence or examples.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 24, 2021 16:27:34 GMT
And time is running out - just like the money already has Roy, you have been saying that for a few years now but there isn't any evidence to prove you right. The contractors are continuing at The Quarters and the players are getting paid unless they aren't and that is why they are performing so badly. Instead of chucking a bomb in and walking away, back your comments up with some evidence or examples. Have heard things about people owed money but I can’t substantiate it. Seems odd if true though
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 16:36:02 GMT
Roy, you have been saying that for a few years now but there isn't any evidence to prove you right. The contractors are continuing at The Quarters and the players are getting paid unless they aren't and that is why they are performing so badly. Instead of chucking a bomb in and walking away, back your comments up with some evidence or examples. Have heard things about people owed money but I can’t substantiate it. Seems odd if true though I was told that contractors had walked off site at The Quarters a month ago but the changing room block has been built since then so somebody just wants to make trouble.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 24, 2021 20:54:40 GMT
It appears the revolution is now more fashionable than the evolution... ?
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Post by a more piratey game on Mar 24, 2021 21:20:38 GMT
And time is running out - just like the money already has Roy, you have been saying that for a few years now but there isn't any evidence to prove you right. The contractors are continuing at The Quarters and the players are getting paid unless they aren't and that is why they are performing so badly. Instead of chucking a bomb in and walking away, back your comments up with some evidence or examples. Pops up Gets called out Goes back to ground And repeat...
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Post by gasandproud on Mar 25, 2021 9:01:27 GMT
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Post by laughinggas on Mar 25, 2021 9:08:25 GMT
Or they have read forums and picked parts from there?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 9:31:40 GMT
Or they have read forums and picked parts from there? The Post article at least calls out that somewhere we’ve been fed utter crap and there is a massive contradiction at the moment. I keep repeating (and I’m sorry for being such a boring git) that I think with each passing defeat Joeys excuses and scope of blame get wider and deeper to mask his own obvious failings, a la Paul Buckle But that’s not to say that he’s wrong here. He’s consistent with Paul Tisdale about standards and culture, but for some reason Tisdale was wrong to call it out and Joey was right
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 9:52:54 GMT
Or they have read forums and picked parts from there? They are basing that article purely on what the club has said in the past vs what B***** is saying today and inferring that it reveals a disconnect between the manager and the recruitment process. A pretty obvious conclusion really.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 10:03:05 GMT
Or they have read forums and picked parts from there? The Post article at least calls out that somewhere we’ve been fed utter crap and there is a massive contradiction at the moment. I keep repeating (and I’m sorry for being such a boring git) that I think with each passing defeat Joeys excuses and scope of blame get wider and deeper to mask his own obvious failings, a la Paul Buckle But that’s not to say that he’s wrong here. He’s consistent with Paul Tisdale about standards and culture, but for some reason Tisdale was wrong to call it out and Joey was right B***** is unsackable right now. At Bristol Rovers a guy with more Instagram likes than the club account is bigger than the club itself. I just want to know what Wael’s reaction to all these comments is? Is he sat there squirming with embarrassment at the dirty laundry aired in public? Is he held in chastity like some sort of cuckold, raging that his manager is taking greater liberties than Tisdale was permitted to take and even more enraged that he can’t pull the trigger because of the brilliant publicity B***** brings to the club? Or does he actually endorse B***** sending a message to the Teflon Prince’s ivory tower via the media that things must and will change? B***** is many things but he is nobody’s fool. He knows that everyone is dancing to his tune right now. He knows he can say what he likes without repercussion. He could flop his johnson on to the desk in front of the media and it would be business as usual. It’s hard not to disagree with you that he’s trying to mask his own failings and produce an end game that allows him to exit stage left whilst still having some suitors waiting in the wings to offer him a job at a functioning league one club with a good budget in time for when his legal disputes are behind him.
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 25, 2021 10:14:28 GMT
The Club is rotten to the core, and the rot starts at the head. I barely recognise it any more. I am not 'connected' to it. The Club is an embarrassment. The B***** appointment was the proverbial straw that broke the Jordanian camel's back. The buck stops with Wael Al-Qadi. Hopefully some kind of personal re-connection with Bristol Rovers will start after B***** has gone - fingers crossed that cold be as soon as June 7th. But the big re-set (when I actively support again) will be when that well meaning, but incompetent, delusional clown has ceded control of Bristol Rovers FC.
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Post by bloogas on Mar 25, 2021 10:21:05 GMT
Have heard things about people owed money but I can’t substantiate it. Seems odd if true though I was told that contractors had walked off site at The Quarters a month ago but the changing room block has been built since then so somebody just wants to make trouble. I passed it this morning. Of the three large excavators there a few weeks ago, only one is left and is doing nothing. Other plant has also disappeared although not all. Work on the club house continues. It does give the impression that no further phases are being started. Why I wouldn't know.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 10:28:02 GMT
I was told that contractors had walked off site at The Quarters a month ago but the changing room block has been built since then so somebody just wants to make trouble. I passed it this morning. Of the three large excavators there a few weeks ago, only one is left and is doing nothing. Other plant has also disappeared although not all. Work on the club house continues. It does give the impression that no further phases are being started. Why I wouldn't know. The drawings for the next phase are in the top drawer of the desk along with the stadium plans at the fruit market. Unfortunately Steve Hamer took the keys to the desk drawers when he left and he won’t give them back
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Post by Cheshiregas on Mar 25, 2021 11:03:15 GMT
Roy, you have been saying that for a few years now but there isn't any evidence to prove you right. The contractors are continuing at The Quarters and the players are getting paid unless they aren't and that is why they are performing so badly. Instead of chucking a bomb in and walking away, back your comments up with some evidence or examples. Pops up Gets called out Goes back to ground And repeat... Knowall has been called out so many times it's getting beyond a joke and is very sad. He has no credibility whatsoever. No facts, no back up, no logic, refuses to respond to any kind of question however articulately put. He sadly just comes across as a vindictive bitter and angry character who comes to his pc just to post a grenade in a very small pond deliberately to provoke others. At least the posters who criticise the club re organisation, finances, future planning etc present their case based on facts and/or personal experience and dealings with the club. I am afraid he comes across as someone who needs help to get rid of his bitterness, anger and resentment. I sincerely hope he gets it, it's not a healthy position to be in.
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