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Mar 24, 2021 18:14:53 GMT
Post by lostinspace on Mar 24, 2021 18:14:53 GMT
we stayed , as a football exchange [junior football] in a rural area about the size of Cheddar and its villages close by, the householder our host,he was a sort of "head honcho" of all things going on in the area,ie: broken fence close to the playing area, someone in "the chain" would report it to him, get the full details down on paper, ring contact 1,[not the initial informant]inform him of a problem in "his" area, contact 1 then rings his main contact to pass on the damage report, HE would then organise a repair party,, then ring back to "contact 1 who would then report back to our host, they all knew each other very well and our host mentioned that he knew who would be doing the repair!!, SO WTF did he not just call him in the first place!!!
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Mar 24, 2021 19:43:18 GMT
Post by towngas on Mar 24, 2021 19:43:18 GMT
I was going to say something along the lines of towngas. But backed off because I couldn't think of a way of expressing myself without coming across as some kind of nutter equating present day Germany to the days of the Third Reich. However seeing that response, it does make me wonder that perhaps the Germanic culture is just more compliant and/or obedient to the 'establishment' and far less questioning and critical than our own. No, you cannot equate current Germany to the Third Reich. However, living here I can understand how this country ended up following Hitler, especially as to how they are easily manipulated by the media. Germans are strange. Here is something I only found out last week. If terrorists were to hi-jack an aeroplane, with the intention of crashing it into a packed football stadium, then the German authorities would NOT shoot it down. It's something to do with everyone has the right to life, even terrorists. I find that incredible. This came after they did uncover a plot to fly a small aircraft into the Bayern Munich stadium (back in those good ole days when crowds were allowed in). The traffic light analogy is a good one. When a German attempts to cross the road, and the Red Man is displayed, they will stop. There may not be a car in sight anywhere. The road could be empty, but they will wait for the Green Man to come on before crossing. They are conditioned to follow orders. Red Man says stop, so they stop. A British person in the same instance would probably look up and down the road, see no cars in sight, and cross the road. They would make their own decision based on what they see. A German would not be happy making that decision. I may not be explaining this very well but I'm sure you get my drift. The Germans like to be controlled and told what to do. The British tend to be more free thinking. Sounds like one of Captain Mainwarings rants in that famous German UBoat crew episode in the church. He said something along the lines of “The German people are a race of automatons led by a raving lunatic” before the U Boat commander (PhilipMadoc) said, in his best German accent “Your name vill go on my list and you vill be dealt vith after ve haft Von ze war” Pike then sang “Whistle while you work, Hitler is a twerp, and his army, they’re all barmy, whistle while you work” Madoc said “You boy, your name vill also go on my list; vot is your name”? Mainwaring shouts “Don’t tell him, Pike” Absolute quality and class. How those blokes kept a straight face through all that amazes me to this day! |
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Mar 31, 2021 10:15:15 GMT
Post by Nobbygas on Mar 31, 2021 10:15:15 GMT
German Update:
We are back to a night time curfew. You must stay in your home unless it's for something essential, between the hours of 9pm and 5am.
Bars & Restaurants have been closed since early December, and there is no sign whatsoever that they will open soon.
Schools will return to normal after Easter.
Public confidence in the AZ vaccine has totally collapsed. Previously government advice was to only give it to under-60's. Now the advice is to ONLY give it to over 60's. People are confused. One minute the slow rollout was because government had to wait for EMA approval. Now, the government are ignoring the EMA, as the EMA insist there are no reasons whatsoever to stop using the AZ vaccine. The only conclusion that can be reached is that this is a political decision.
Germany is still discussing as to when to allow GP's to start giving vaccine injections. It is hoped to start by the end of April.
Infection rates continue to climb.
It's looking grim over here.
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Mar 31, 2021 11:58:10 GMT
Post by TheThinWhiteDuke on Mar 31, 2021 11:58:10 GMT
German Update: We are back to a night time curfew. You must stay in your home unless it's for something essential, between the hours of 9pm and 5am. Bars & Restaurants have been closed since early December, and there is no sign whatsoever that they will open soon. Schools will return to normal after Easter. Public confidence in the AZ vaccine has totally collapsed. Previously government advice was to only give it to under-60's. Now the advice is to ONLY give it to over 60's. People are confused. One minute the slow rollout was because government had to wait for EMA approval. Now, the government are ignoring the EMA, as the EMA insist there are no reasons whatsoever to stop using the AZ vaccine. The only conclusion that can be reached is that this is a political decision. Germany is still discussing as to when to allow GP's to start giving vaccine injections. It is hoped to start by the end of April. Infection rates continue to climb. It's looking grim over here. It's funny isn't it, 2 years ago this type of board was alive with people defending the EU and hurling no end of insults at anybody who suggested that it was too large, far too political, unaccountable, put it's ideological objectives ahead of the welfare of citizens and is not fit for purpose. It's all rather quiet now. Not even the good grace to accept that this side of the room may have had a point all along. BBC still defending the EU though, yesterday they did a potted summary of good and bad things that had happened since our withdrawal, they concluded that it had been broadly neutral to date. And they wonder what confidence in them is at an all time low. |
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Mar 31, 2021 12:48:49 GMT
Post by Rex on Mar 31, 2021 12:48:49 GMT
German Update: We are back to a night time curfew. You must stay in your home unless it's for something essential, between the hours of 9pm and 5am. Bars & Restaurants have been closed since early December, and there is no sign whatsoever that they will open soon. Schools will return to normal after Easter. Public confidence in the AZ vaccine has totally collapsed. Previously government advice was to only give it to under-60's. Now the advice is to ONLY give it to over 60's. People are confused. One minute the slow rollout was because government had to wait for EMA approval. Now, the government are ignoring the EMA, as the EMA insist there are no reasons whatsoever to stop using the AZ vaccine. The only conclusion that can be reached is that this is a political decision. Germany is still discussing as to when to allow GP's to start giving vaccine injections. It is hoped to start by the end of April. Infection rates continue to climb. It's looking grim over here. It's funny isn't it, 2 years ago this type of board was alive with people defending the EU and hurling no end of insults at anybody who suggested that it was too large, far too political, unaccountable, put it's ideological objectives ahead of the welfare of citizens and is not fit for purpose. It's all rather quiet now. Not even the good grace to accept that this side of the room may have had a point all along. BBC still defending the EU though, yesterday they did a potted summary of good and bad things that had happened since our withdrawal, they concluded that it had been broadly neutral to date. And they wonder what confidence in them is at an all time low. Not really Bambi. The debate had become toxic, tedious and pointless, with neither side giving an inch. Well it did for me anyway, which is why I stopped commenting. I mean. obviously I'm commenting now, but that's because I thought you might miss me and you may be worried about me. |
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Mar 31, 2021 13:16:32 GMT
Post by TheThinWhiteDuke on Mar 31, 2021 13:16:32 GMT
It's funny isn't it, 2 years ago this type of board was alive with people defending the EU and hurling no end of insults at anybody who suggested that it was too large, far too political, unaccountable, put it's ideological objectives ahead of the welfare of citizens and is not fit for purpose. It's all rather quiet now. Not even the good grace to accept that this side of the room may have had a point all along. BBC still defending the EU though, yesterday they did a potted summary of good and bad things that had happened since our withdrawal, they concluded that it had been broadly neutral to date. And they wonder what confidence in them is at an all time low. Not really Bambi. The debate had become toxic, tedious and pointless, with neither side giving an inch. Well it did for me anyway, which is why I stopped commenting. I mean. obviously I'm commenting now, but that's because I thought you might miss me and you may be worried about me. It didn't appear to me to be topic for conversation. We were given a choice. A or B. No concessions or 'inch giving' required, pin your tail on your donkey, give the government the instruction and it will be implemented. simple. We didn't make the correct choice, that was all, so were told that we were racist, ill informed, lied to, you know how the song goes. In reality lots of us understood the nature of the EU because we'd been following it for years, and really didn't like what we saw. We see it being played out now, both in the vaccine procurement but even more dangerously in the way they are reacting to the mess they've created. Is there a defence of the way they've behaved over the last couple of months which the anti-EU media here haven't put forward? |
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Mar 31, 2021 13:37:15 GMT
Post by Rex on Mar 31, 2021 13:37:15 GMT
Not really Bambi. The debate had become toxic, tedious and pointless, with neither side giving an inch. Well it did for me anyway, which is why I stopped commenting. I mean. obviously I'm commenting now, but that's because I thought you might miss me and you may be worried about me. It didn't appear to me to be topic for conversation. We were given a choice. A or B. No concessions or 'inch giving' required, pin your tail on your donkey, give the government the instruction and it will be implemented. simple. We didn't make the correct choice, that was all, so were told that we were racist, ill informed, lied to, you know how the song goes. In reality lots of us understood the nature of the EU because we'd been following it for years, and really didn't like what we saw. We see it being played out now, both in the vaccine procurement but even more dangerously in the way they are reacting to the mess they've created. Is there a defence of the way they've behaved over the last couple of months which the anti-EU media here haven't put forward? No comment  |
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Mar 31, 2021 15:35:16 GMT
Post by TheThinWhiteDuke on Mar 31, 2021 15:35:16 GMT
It didn't appear to me to be topic for conversation. We were given a choice. A or B. No concessions or 'inch giving' required, pin your tail on your donkey, give the government the instruction and it will be implemented. simple. We didn't make the correct choice, that was all, so were told that we were racist, ill informed, lied to, you know how the song goes. In reality lots of us understood the nature of the EU because we'd been following it for years, and really didn't like what we saw. We see it being played out now, both in the vaccine procurement but even more dangerously in the way they are reacting to the mess they've created. Is there a defence of the way they've behaved over the last couple of months which the anti-EU media here haven't put forward? No comment I have more comment. The frustrations for me are that you either had to be right or wrong in the debate, there didn't seem to be room for someone who, for example, wanted free trade but without the political institution that's grown around that simple concept. Frustration 2. It became hugely divisive, that's 100% on Remain, had they have acted in the way that they would have demanded if the result were 48/52 in the opposite direction there would have been a lot less upset for everybody. I wonder if we've learned anything about the dangers of calling this type of binary referendum? Even being on the 'winning' side felt uncomfortable as there's something not quite right about 48% of people voting for a single outcome and getting no part whatsoever of what they wanted. Those were the rules for that vote and as such it was essential to respect the result, but it was far from ideal. That'll do for now. |
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Mar 31, 2021 17:51:14 GMT
Post by Rex on Mar 31, 2021 17:51:14 GMT
No comment I have more comment. The frustrations for me are that you either had to be right or wrong in the debate, there didn't seem to be room for someone who, for example, wanted free trade but without the political institution that's grown around that simple concept. Frustration 2. It became hugely divisive, that's 100% on Remain, had they have acted in the way that they would have demanded if the result were 48/52 in the opposite direction there would have been a lot less upset for everybody. I wonder if we've learned anything about the dangers of calling this type of binary referendum? Even being on the 'winning' side felt uncomfortable as there's something not quite right about 48% of people voting for a single outcome and getting no part whatsoever of what they wanted. Those were the rules for that vote and as such it was essential to respect the result, but it was far from ideal. That'll do for now. No comment. |
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Mar 31, 2021 18:26:36 GMT
Post by TheThinWhiteDuke on Mar 31, 2021 18:26:36 GMT
I have more comment. The frustrations for me are that you either had to be right or wrong in the debate, there didn't seem to be room for someone who, for example, wanted free trade but without the political institution that's grown around that simple concept. Frustration 2. It became hugely divisive, that's 100% on Remain, had they have acted in the way that they would have demanded if the result were 48/52 in the opposite direction there would have been a lot less upset for everybody. I wonder if we've learned anything about the dangers of calling this type of binary referendum? Even being on the 'winning' side felt uncomfortable as there's something not quite right about 48% of people voting for a single outcome and getting no part whatsoever of what they wanted. Those were the rules for that vote and as such it was essential to respect the result, but it was far from ideal. That'll do for now. No comment. That's why nobody wants to be a Police officer. |
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Mar 31, 2021 20:43:31 GMT
Post by alftupper on Mar 31, 2021 20:43:31 GMT
I have more comment. The frustrations for me are that you either had to be right or wrong in the debate, there didn't seem to be room for someone who, for example, wanted free trade but without the political institution that's grown around that simple concept. Frustration 2. It became hugely divisive, that's 100% on Remain, had they have acted in the way that they would have demanded if the result were 48/52 in the opposite direction there would have been a lot less upset for everybody. I wonder if we've learned anything about the dangers of calling this type of binary referendum? Even being on the 'winning' side felt uncomfortable as there's something not quite right about 48% of people voting for a single outcome and getting no part whatsoever of what they wanted. Those were the rules for that vote and as such it was essential to respect the result, but it was far from ideal. That'll do for now. No comment. Snap out of it, Rex. You`re no longer in Shettleston police station, being asked why you attacked the Celtic team bus. |
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Mar 31, 2021 20:49:33 GMT
Post by alftupper on Mar 31, 2021 20:49:33 GMT
German Update: We are back to a night time curfew. You must stay in your home unless it's for something essential, between the hours of 9pm and 5am. Bars & Restaurants have been closed since early December, and there is no sign whatsoever that they will open soon. Schools will return to normal after Easter. Public confidence in the AZ vaccine has totally collapsed. Previously government advice was to only give it to under-60's. Now the advice is to ONLY give it to over 60's. People are confused. One minute the slow rollout was because government had to wait for EMA approval. Now, the government are ignoring the EMA, as the EMA insist there are no reasons whatsoever to stop using the AZ vaccine. The only conclusion that can be reached is that this is a political decision. Germany is still discussing as to when to allow GP's to start giving vaccine injections. It is hoped to start by the end of April. Infection rates continue to climb. It's looking grim over here. Biggest f*ck up since they decided to fight Russia and America, at the same time? |
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Post by TheThinWhiteDuke on Mar 31, 2021 21:14:56 GMT
German Update: We are back to a night time curfew. You must stay in your home unless it's for something essential, between the hours of 9pm and 5am. Bars & Restaurants have been closed since early December, and there is no sign whatsoever that they will open soon. Schools will return to normal after Easter. Public confidence in the AZ vaccine has totally collapsed. Previously government advice was to only give it to under-60's. Now the advice is to ONLY give it to over 60's. People are confused. One minute the slow rollout was because government had to wait for EMA approval. Now, the government are ignoring the EMA, as the EMA insist there are no reasons whatsoever to stop using the AZ vaccine. The only conclusion that can be reached is that this is a political decision. Germany is still discussing as to when to allow GP's to start giving vaccine injections. It is hoped to start by the end of April. Infection rates continue to climb. It's looking grim over here. Biggest f*ck up since they decided to fight Russia and America, at the same time? You watch the wrong war films buddy, it was Tommy what won it. |
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Apr 1, 2021 18:49:19 GMT
Post by towngas on Apr 1, 2021 18:49:19 GMT
No comment I have more comment. The frustrations for me are that you either had to be right or wrong in the debate, there didn't seem to be room for someone who, for example, wanted free trade but without the political institution that's grown around that simple concept. Frustration 2. It became hugely divisive, that's 100% on Remain, had they have acted in the way that they would have demanded if the result were 48/52 in the opposite direction there would have been a lot less upset for everybody. I wonder if we've learned anything about the dangers of calling this type of binary referendum? Even being on the 'winning' side felt uncomfortable as there's something not quite right about 48% of people voting for a single outcome and getting no part whatsoever of what they wanted. Those were the rules for that vote and as such it was essential to respect the result, but it was far from ideal. That'll do for now. It had to be binary really, didn’t it? Theres no way this country (UK) could have operated half in and half out. You’ve only got to look at the F up in Northern Ireland to see that. Hopefully, when we’ve got on top of this Covid b****** the government can bring NI fully away from the customs union. I think The Irish Republic might start having second thoughts about the EU in a couple of years. We’re by far their biggest trading partners and they might decide to come with us if the EU continues to balls everything up. |
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Apr 9, 2021 8:32:08 GMT
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Post by francegas on Apr 9, 2021 8:32:08 GMT
Update from France.
We have been under a curfew 6pm to 6am since January (although recently amended to 7pm - 6am) .
All restaurants and bars have been closed since October with no indication of when they are likely to open. Some say June others say "September". We cannot go further than 10km from the house without completing an attestation to justify your travel. All non essential shops are shut (hairdressers now classed as essential and remain open much to the wifes delight).
In respect of the vaccine rollout... An utter disaster would describe it at best. Our local town (Ambert) converted a sports hall to undertake its vaccine rollout and get the towns residents vaccinated. It was reported in the local paper how proud the mayor and dignitaries were to get this up and running so quickly. The report went on to say they are vaccinating 4 hours a day and are vaccinating 20-25 people a day! They hoped in the coming weeks and months to ramp up those figures to 40 people a day!
My wife and I spoke to our doctor and local pharmacies to get ourselves on the list to get vaccinated. We were told by one pharmacy that the "town" received to service the doctors and pharmacies enough doses to vaccinate "15" people over the previous 3 days.
We said to one Pharmacist we are more than happy to receive the AZ vaccine so if you have an abundance of people who refuse it please contact us, only to be told the town is only receiving the AZ vaccine.
God only knows when we will be vaccinated like Nobby I haven't seen my elderly parents for 15 months and want to get back to visit.
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Post by alftupper on Apr 9, 2021 11:13:08 GMT
Update from France. We have been under a curfew 6pm to 6am since January (although recently amended to 7pm - 6am) . All restaurants and bars have been closed since October with no indication of when they are likely to open. Some say June others say "September". We cannot go further than 10km from the house without completing an attestation to justify your travel. All non essential shops are shut (hairdressers now classed as essential and remain open much to the wifes delight). In respect of the vaccine rollout... An utter disaster would describe it at best. Our local town (Ambert) converted a sports hall to undertake its vaccine rollout and get the towns residents vaccinated. It was reported in the local paper how proud the mayor and dignitaries were to get this up and running so quickly. The report went on to say they are vaccinating 4 hours a day and are vaccinating 20-25 people a day! They hoped in the coming weeks and months to ramp up those figures to 40 people a day! My wife and I spoke to our doctor and local pharmacies to get ourselves on the list to get vaccinated. We were told by one pharmacy that the "town" received to service the doctors and pharmacies enough doses to vaccinate "15" people over the previous 3 days. We said to one Pharmacist we are more than happy to receive the AZ vaccine so if you have an abundance of people who refuse it please contact us, only to be told the town is only receiving the AZ vaccine. God only knows when we will be vaccinated like Nobby I haven't seen my elderly parents for 15 months and want to get back to visit. Doesn`t sound at all promising. Got to admit, I`m not sure what surprises me the most. That our vaccine rollout has gone so well, or that the French and German rollouts have been so abysmal. The German born economist, E F Schumacher wrote a book, "Small is beautiful." Perhaps he was on to something? Maybe one huge organisation, taking charge of so many differing peoples, isn`t such a good idea after all.
Good luck, mate. UTG!
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 9, 2021 15:01:10 GMT
Update from France. We have been under a curfew 6pm to 6am since January (although recently amended to 7pm - 6am) . All restaurants and bars have been closed since October with no indication of when they are likely to open. Some say June others say "September". We cannot go further than 10km from the house without completing an attestation to justify your travel. All non essential shops are shut (hairdressers now classed as essential and remain open much to the wifes delight). In respect of the vaccine rollout... An utter disaster would describe it at best. Our local town (Ambert) converted a sports hall to undertake its vaccine rollout and get the towns residents vaccinated. It was reported in the local paper how proud the mayor and dignitaries were to get this up and running so quickly. The report went on to say they are vaccinating 4 hours a day and are vaccinating 20-25 people a day! They hoped in the coming weeks and months to ramp up those figures to 40 people a day! My wife and I spoke to our doctor and local pharmacies to get ourselves on the list to get vaccinated. We were told by one pharmacy that the "town" received to service the doctors and pharmacies enough doses to vaccinate "15" people over the previous 3 days. We said to one Pharmacist we are more than happy to receive the AZ vaccine so if you have an abundance of people who refuse it please contact us, only to be told the town is only receiving the AZ vaccine. God only knows when we will be vaccinated like Nobby I haven't seen my elderly parents for 15 months and want to get back to visit. Good luck Sir. Updates from France and Germany (and elsewhere) are much appreciated. Personal accounts are far more interesting and balanced than the mainstream media. |
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Apr 19, 2021 8:20:05 GMT
Post by Nobbygas on Apr 19, 2021 8:20:05 GMT
Update from Germany:
Infection rates are still increasing. Here they reckon that an IR of around 130 per 100,000 means that you have to lockdown. The IR in the city I live is around the 260 mark !
Intensive Care Beds in the hospitals are nearing the 100% utilized mark.
Deaths are still quite low though, with figures reporting around 200 a day in Germany.
Schools are closed yet again from today.
Only essential shops open.
Bars and restaurants still closed with no sign of when they will re-open. They have been closed since early December.
Uptake of the AZ vaccine is poor. It is reported that 25% of people turning up for their vaccines are refusing the AZ vaccine, and as this is the only one available, are going home without having a shot. In an area with an IR of 260, this is quite remarkable. Many people are more scared of the AZ vaccine than they are of Covid ! Well done the German politicians and Media. It's good news for me though as they are asking anyone over the age of 60 to apply for a shot, if you are happy to take the AZ one. I applied on Saturday and I get my shot tomorrow. My second shot is scheduled for July, 12 weeks later. Remember the days when the EU claimed that the UK were being irresponsible over the 12 weeks between shots? Well, it's the norm here now.
Interesting reading the update from Francegas, as it appears to be the same here. Only the AZ vaccine is available in most places here as well. Is there a problem getting the Pfizer Vaccine? If so, why hasn't it been attacked in the same way that the AZ one was? There does seem to be something odd going on behind the scenes with these vaccines.
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Apr 20, 2021 8:16:14 GMT
Post by eppinggas on Apr 20, 2021 8:16:14 GMT
Update from Germany: Infection rates are still increasing. Here they reckon that an IR of around 130 per 100,000 means that you have to lockdown. The IR in the city I live is around the 260 mark ! Intensive Care Beds in the hospitals are nearing the 100% utilized mark. Deaths are still quite low though, with figures reporting around 200 a day in Germany. Schools are closed yet again from today. Only essential shops open. Bars and restaurants still closed with no sign of when they will re-open. They have been closed since early December. Uptake of the AZ vaccine is poor. It is reported that 25% of people turning up for their vaccines are refusing the AZ vaccine, and as this is the only one available, are going home without having a shot. In an area with an IR of 260, this is quite remarkable. Many people are more scared of the AZ vaccine than they are of Covid ! Well done the German politicians and Media. It's good news for me though as they are asking anyone over the age of 60 to apply for a shot, if you are happy to take the AZ one. I applied on Saturday and I get my shot tomorrow. My second shot is scheduled for July, 12 weeks later. Remember the days when the EU claimed that the UK were being irresponsible over the 12 weeks between shots? Well, it's the norm here now. Interesting reading the update from Francegas, as it appears to be the same here. Only the AZ vaccine is available in most places here as well. Is there a problem getting the Pfizer Vaccine? If so, why hasn't it been attacked in the same way that the AZ one was? There does seem to be something odd going on behind the scenes with these vaccines. Bizarre. The chances of dying of Covid far outweigh the chances of dying from a blood clot after having had the AZ vaccine. What is so hard to understand? I feel for for UK residents abroad. We are very lucky to be in the UK. The vaccine roll-out has to be the biggest operation since WWII. A very unpopular and unfashionable attitude - but I'm proud to be British. BTW - Epping Forest IR was around 1500/100k early Jan. Wishing all well. |
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Apr 20, 2021 8:24:11 GMT
Post by Nobbygas on Apr 20, 2021 8:24:11 GMT
Update from Germany: Infection rates are still increasing. Here they reckon that an IR of around 130 per 100,000 means that you have to lockdown. The IR in the city I live is around the 260 mark ! Intensive Care Beds in the hospitals are nearing the 100% utilized mark. Deaths are still quite low though, with figures reporting around 200 a day in Germany. Schools are closed yet again from today. Only essential shops open. Bars and restaurants still closed with no sign of when they will re-open. They have been closed since early December. Uptake of the AZ vaccine is poor. It is reported that 25% of people turning up for their vaccines are refusing the AZ vaccine, and as this is the only one available, are going home without having a shot. In an area with an IR of 260, this is quite remarkable. Many people are more scared of the AZ vaccine than they are of Covid ! Well done the German politicians and Media. It's good news for me though as they are asking anyone over the age of 60 to apply for a shot, if you are happy to take the AZ one. I applied on Saturday and I get my shot tomorrow. My second shot is scheduled for July, 12 weeks later. Remember the days when the EU claimed that the UK were being irresponsible over the 12 weeks between shots? Well, it's the norm here now. Interesting reading the update from Francegas, as it appears to be the same here. Only the AZ vaccine is available in most places here as well. Is there a problem getting the Pfizer Vaccine? If so, why hasn't it been attacked in the same way that the AZ one was? There does seem to be something odd going on behind the scenes with these vaccines. Bizarre. The chances of dying of Covid far outweigh the chances of dying from a blood clot after having had the AZ vaccine. What is so hard to understand? I feel for for UK residents abroad. We are very lucky to be in the UK. The vaccine roll-out has to be the biggest operation since WWII. A very unpopular and unfashionable attitude - but I'm proud to be British. BTW - Epping Forest IR was around 1500/100k early Jan. Wishing all well. My Mother-In-Law was actually begging me not to have the AZ vaccine........but she's Greek, What do they know  |
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