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Post by a more piratey game on Feb 18, 2021 22:12:16 GMT
Some interesting views there of both our club and Paul Tisdale. He knows the Paul Tisdale that I know and appears to be saying the same as what I said when Tis arrived, he wasn't right for Bristol Rovers as he would have needed a lot of time to get things the way he would want them and you don't get that time at Rovers. Players meeting with Starnes about Tis: “He’s too clever” “he uses long words we don’t understand” “he seems a bit posh” Starnes: “Ok, I think I know just the man we need” Ha!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 9:02:24 GMT
Ollie back in the Evening Post - "What I can't understand is why the club need a director of football and a manager. What if they disagree over team selection or tactics?"
"....The first requirements surely then will be to pick a candidate who shares his ideas and one he can work with amicably."
"If things failed after that, where would the responsibility lie? I think supporters at many clubs are coming to the conclusion that everything can't be the manager's fault"
You're welcome Ollie.
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 19, 2021 9:15:21 GMT
Ollie back in the Evening Post - "What I can't understand is why the club need a director of football and a manager. What if they disagree over team selection or tactics?" "....The first requirements surely then will be to pick a candidate who shares his ideas and one he can work with amicably." "If things failed after that, where would the responsibility lie? I think supporters at many clubs are coming to the conclusion that everything can't be the manager's fault" You're welcome Ollie. Whomever will be chosen as the new first team coach will need to play 5-3-2, work with the existing coaches and promise never to criticise the board. I can’t see anyone beyond Widdrington for the role.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 9:25:21 GMT
Ollie back in the Evening Post - "What I can't understand is why the club need a director of football and a manager. What if they disagree over team selection or tactics?" "....The first requirements surely then will be to pick a candidate who shares his ideas and one he can work with amicably." "If things failed after that, where would the responsibility lie? I think supporters at many clubs are coming to the conclusion that everything can't be the manager's fault" You're welcome Ollie. Whomever will be chosen as the new first team coach will need to play 5-3-2, work with the existing coaches and promise never to criticise the board. I can’t see anyone beyond Widdrington for the role. I’ve just got Theo Widdrington at 150-1
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Post by eppinggas on Feb 19, 2021 9:40:01 GMT
Whomever will be chosen as the new first team coach will need to play 5-3-2, work with the existing coaches and promise never to criticise the board. I can’t see anyone beyond Widdrington for the role. I’ve just got Theo Widdrington at 150-1 B***** still favourite, but widened to 8-11. Widdrington (senior) tightened to 8-1.
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Post by tanksfull on Feb 19, 2021 10:02:12 GMT
Some interesting views there of both our club and Paul Tisdale. He knows the Paul Tisdale that I know and appears to be saying the same as what I said when Tis arrived, he wasn't right for Bristol Rovers as he would have needed a lot of time to get things the way he would want them and you don't get that time at Rovers. Players meeting with Starnes about Tis: “He’s too clever” “he uses long words we don’t understand” “he seems a bit posh” Starnes: “Ok, I think I know just the man we need” That looks a perfect summation of where we are.
Can't see Widdrington wanting B***** with his entourage as that puts him out. Can't really see Wael wanting him either.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 19, 2021 10:42:44 GMT
Players meeting with Starnes about Tis: “He’s too clever” “he uses long words we don’t understand” “he seems a bit posh” Starnes: “Ok, I think I know just the man we need” That looks a perfect summation of where we are.
Can't see Widdrington wanting B***** with his entourage as that puts him out. Can't really see Wael wanting him either. I just can’t see ANY real plan. It’s a case of the new rovers being the old rovers but with no true gas on the board. I know things were very bad in the Higgs years but we did have gasheads able to influence, I think !
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Post by towngas on Feb 19, 2021 10:43:25 GMT
Ollie back in the Evening Post - "What I can't understand is why the club need a director of football and a manager. What if they disagree over team selection or tactics?" "....The first requirements surely then will be to pick a candidate who shares his ideas and one he can work with amicably." "If things failed after that, where would the responsibility lie? I think supporters at many clubs are coming to the conclusion that everything can't be the manager's fault" You're welcome Ollie. I wish Hollowhead would f*ck off somewhere far away and take his destabilising, unwanted opinions with him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 10:46:27 GMT
Ollie back in the Evening Post - "What I can't understand is why the club need a director of football and a manager. What if they disagree over team selection or tactics?" "....The first requirements surely then will be to pick a candidate who shares his ideas and one he can work with amicably." "If things failed after that, where would the responsibility lie? I think supporters at many clubs are coming to the conclusion that everything can't be the manager's fault" You're welcome Ollie. I wish Hollowhead would f*ck off somewhere far away and take his destabilising, unwanted opinions with him. He's a Gashead and he has opinions like we all do. He also has inside knowledge it's just that some of us don't want to hear it so find it easier to blame the messenger.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 19, 2021 10:49:31 GMT
Ollie back in the Evening Post - "What I can't understand is why the club need a director of football and a manager. What if they disagree over team selection or tactics?" "....The first requirements surely then will be to pick a candidate who shares his ideas and one he can work with amicably." "If things failed after that, where would the responsibility lie? I think supporters at many clubs are coming to the conclusion that everything can't be the manager's fault" You're welcome Ollie. I wish Hollowhead would f*ck off somewhere far away and take his destabilising, unwanted opinions with him. I think he just aired what many have been thinking. It certainly ruffled some feathers and I’m pretty sure he knew this. As for destabilising, I think that boat sailed after the collapse of UWE.2. I don’t see that it’s done any harm personally but each to their own old bean. UTG
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Post by tanksfull on Feb 19, 2021 10:57:29 GMT
I wish Hollowhead would f*ck off somewhere far away and take his destabilising, unwanted opinions with him. He's a Gashead and he has opinions like we all do. He also has inside knowledge it's just that some of us don't want to hear it so find it easier to blame the messenger. It appears that it was Wael who appointed Tisdale. In due course he would produce the football and structure that BRFC are looking for.
Seems that others may not have agreed?
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Post by bloogas on Feb 19, 2021 11:07:57 GMT
Ollie back in the Evening Post - "What I can't understand is why the club need a director of football and a manager. What if they disagree over team selection or tactics?" "....The first requirements surely then will be to pick a candidate who shares his ideas and one he can work with amicably." "If things failed after that, where would the responsibility lie? I think supporters at many clubs are coming to the conclusion that everything can't be the manager's fault" You're welcome Ollie. I wish Hollowhead would f*ck off somewhere far away and take his destabilising, unwanted opinions with him. Now now, mustn't question the deification of the Special One.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 11:26:51 GMT
Ollie back in the Evening Post - "What I can't understand is why the club need a director of football and a manager. What if they disagree over team selection or tactics?" "....The first requirements surely then will be to pick a candidate who shares his ideas and one he can work with amicably." "If things failed after that, where would the responsibility lie? I think supporters at many clubs are coming to the conclusion that everything can't be the manager's fault" You're welcome Ollie. I wish Hollowhead would f*ck off somewhere far away and take his destabilising, unwanted opinions with him. He makes some fair and very obvious points. Having a DOF is going to limit the managers who will come here and even more so when you consider that our DOF is very opinionated and probably not very easy to get on with as well as not shy to throw the manager under the bus in the press, never mind the accusations of team rigging by Holloway. “DOF watch” is going to be very interesting going forward, especially if a combustible character like B***** comes in (who had his mate as DOF at Fleetwood). There will be a failing out at some point, guaranteed.
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Post by laughinggas on Feb 19, 2021 11:46:12 GMT
Holloway gives sound bites in keeping with what's on forums. Latest example being Bristil clubs must stop being selling clubs! Then talks about Brentford being successful because they kept their manager. No mention how they have been a selling club as well.
Talks about DOF without looking at the remit of the DOF. I have no idea how many clubs have one and what the success rate is. But DOF is being discussed on forums so let's mention it.
He is employed to help sales!
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Post by tanksfull on Feb 19, 2021 11:47:57 GMT
I wish Hollowhead would f*ck off somewhere far away and take his destabilising, unwanted opinions with him. He makes some fair and very obvious points. Having a DOF is going to limit the managers who will come here and even more so when you consider that our DOF is very opinionated and probably not very easy to get on with as well as not shy to throw the manager under the bus in the press, never mind the accusations of team rigging by Holloway. “DOF watch” is going to be very interesting going forward, especially if a combustible character like B***** comes in (who had his mate as DOF at Fleetwood). There will be a failing out at some point, guaranteed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 11:54:31 GMT
He's a Gashead and he has opinions like we all do. He also has inside knowledge it's just that some of us don't want to hear it so find it easier to blame the messenger. It appears that it was Wael who appointed Tisdale. In due course he would produce the football and structure that BRFC are looking for.
Seems that others may not have agreed?
Exactly how I see it.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Feb 19, 2021 12:03:08 GMT
It appears that it was Wael who appointed Tisdale. In due course he would produce the football and structure that BRFC are looking for.
Seems that others may not have agreed?
Exactly how I see it. So it would appear then, if I read it right, the very people who WAQ appointed to help run the club and go in the direction he wanted are the very people undermining the managers brought in to follow said policy. Wonder if that is about self preservation or they don't believe in WAQs plan and have their own agenda?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 12:29:14 GMT
So it would appear then, if I read it right, the very people who WAQ appointed to help run the club and go in the direction he wanted are the very people undermining the managers brought in to follow said policy. Wonder if that is about self preservation or they don't believe in WAQs plan and have their own agenda? I think self preservation. When Tis was appointed I questioned it with those who know him better than I . I said that I wouldn't have thought he could work with somebody else's team of coaches and DOF. I was told that Tis would change that and get his own people in and so it started to happen when Mel Gwinnett who is Tis's eyes and ears arrived. When that happened I think the alarm bells started to sound for some and the barriers went up and the back stabbing began. The DOF would have been most at risk and I truly believe that the poor results saved him from being replaced by Stevie Perryman who would have been poised to take his place which would have been a given if Tisdale was in a position of power due to success on the field. Unfortunately for Tis and fortunately for the existing staff he never had the chance. Football is a sh*tty game behind the scenes and extreme loyalty amongst staff and extreme disloyalty both exist purely for self preservation. Us fans ultimately suffer for their behaviour.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 19, 2021 12:41:29 GMT
So it would appear then, if I read it right, the very people who WAQ appointed to help run the club and go in the direction he wanted are the very people undermining the managers brought in to follow said policy. Wonder if that is about self preservation or they don't believe in WAQs plan and have their own agenda? I think self preservation. When Tis was appointed I questioned it with those who know him better than I . I said that I wouldn't have thought he could work with somebody else's team of coaches and DOF. I was told that Tis would change that and get his own people in and so it started to happen when Mel Gwinnett who is Tis's eyes and ears arrived. When that happened I think the alarm bells started to sound for some and the barriers went up and the back stabbing began. The DOF would have been most at risk and I truly believe that the poor results saved him from being replaced by Stevie Perryman who would have been poised to take his place which would have been a given if Tisdale was in a position of power due to success on the field. Unfortunately for Tis and fortunately for the existing staff he never had the chance. Football is a sh*tty game behind the scenes and extreme loyalty amongst staff and extreme disloyalty both exist purely for self preservation. Us fans ultimately suffer for their behaviour. Isn’t that the truth. We end up not knowing what the hell is going on then some even tell us we shouldn’t be asking questions !
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Post by allygas on Feb 19, 2021 12:48:52 GMT
Ollie back in the Evening Post - "What I can't understand is why the club need a director of football and a manager. What if they disagree over team selection or tactics?" "....The first requirements surely then will be to pick a candidate who shares his ideas and one he can work with amicably." "If things failed after that, where would the responsibility lie? I think supporters at many clubs are coming to the conclusion that everything can't be the manager's fault" You're welcome Ollie. I wish Hollowhead would f*ck off somewhere far away and take his destabilising, unwanted opinions with him.
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