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Post by muppet on Feb 10, 2021 19:56:12 GMT
who is going to take on a squad with no confidence, no speed, and no experienced strikers? The goons will probably appoint another muppet, Mr Muppet. Well this muppet is available, dont think would be any worse.
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Post by The Concept on Feb 10, 2021 20:49:42 GMT
I think it must be my turn to manage us now. Every other bugger has had a go. Just so you know, I'll be going back to basics with a 4-4-2, I'm happy with the strikers I've got, but another left back would come in handy. Best tweak your power-point presentation ready, and talk about the 'DNA'.
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 10, 2021 21:35:33 GMT
Keith Curle is available. Sacked 10 minutes before Tisdale. Breaking news. It's official. We are a laughing stock. I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole and if Wael messages me I will tell him why. Whilst I agree, after sacking two managers in three months it may be more of a case of him not touching us with a barge pole. UTG!
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 11, 2021 2:27:21 GMT
I had this nightmare of Martin Allen walking through the Mem Gates before the end of the month. Imagine that!!
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Post by TaiwanGas on Feb 11, 2021 8:04:31 GMT
Absolutely no surprise, neither liked or disliked him as Manager. From the very start I thought it odd that he took the job and then declared he knew nothing about any of our players!, add to that he openly bemoaned the training ground's facilities and access, and declared a 0-2 defeat as fabulous on the back of a terrible run, it seem's about right to me, he started to get very twitchy toward the end in his interviews (Just as Garner did).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 8:15:44 GMT
Absolutely no surprise, neither liked or disliked him as Manager. From the very start I thought it odd that he took the job and then declared he knew nothing about any of our players!, add to that he openly bemoaned the training ground's facilities and access, and declared a 0-2 defeat as fabulous on the back of a terrible run, it seem's about right to me, he started to get very twitchy toward the end in his interviews (Just as Garner did). Actually I can understand him mentioning the training facilities. Although us Gasheads are pleased that finally we have a new training ground, what Tisdale built at the Cliff Hill Training Ground at Exeter is far superior. I say he built, all transfer income under his direction, and there has been millions, were directed towards improving the structure of the club. Training Ground, stadium, pitch (although The Mem pitch is currently better). He is more than a first team coach and that is why from the start I said he would have needed a lot of time but knew he would never get it because here it is all about first team results and winning when City lose.
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Post by mangogas15 on Feb 11, 2021 8:17:54 GMT
But it's his club and he can do what he wants. It's business and better to admit your mistake and stay up than go down stubbornly. On the first point, you're not even wrong. It is his club, that's true, and he can rename us 'Red Boys 82' if he wants. On the second point, I believe sacking two managers in a season comes straight from the Nick Higgs relegation playbook. I agree, it's crap, and I remember we did it in 2011 and went down, if we employ Mansell or Widdrington, read Campbell, he couldn't keep them up. Shrewsbury had the right idea. Your relegation playbook reminds me of when commentators say things like Chelsea have hammered a nail in Arsenals Title Coffin. Like such a thing exists or even makes any sense whatsoever 😄
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Post by mangogas15 on Feb 11, 2021 9:02:23 GMT
Here is my 2 penneth
Tisdale did worse than Garner, the striker was a clear need ahead of a keeper and right back from day one, we should have had one tapped up, pre-signed and signed by 1st Jan, the upshot of this is that we haven't won since then.
We are allowed to go down in the same way we are allowed to do well. I think he lost the dressing room and didn't work to his potential concentrating more on players not celebrating goals than the basics of defending and creating chances.
This squad is capable but he was the wrong man.
His attitude was wrong in press conferences, the fact that he might not feel backed is very naive of him in today's football, he knew what he was letting himself in for.
We looked like getting a semblance of consistency at home after wins v Plymouth and Blackpool, the Charlton game was the start of the real slide for me. That horrific corner, the fact that it's ok for a player to leave it for his keeper. We were in that game and the confidence seemed to drain from the squad, especially forward players from that moment.
Then came the defence, the Rochdale game was unacceptable a real chance to pick up 3 pts at home and it just seemed ok to lose, Accrington was the nadir and he got what he deserved for a lack of preparation.
He takes full responsibility for that result and performance. Let's see a reaction, 4 pts from the next 2 games will see that. 1 point, goodbye.
Garner did better in the first 10 games.
His binning of Harries and Tutonda was strange.
I don't feel he was unfortunate or unlucky in any way, some might say now lucky to get as many points as we did.
Good riddance. Make the next one a good one please Wael, I still back you because you have saved our club, but we stilm have a chance of staying up, look at Shrewsbury, look at how Cardiff have gone for a 'dinosaur', maybe we should have got Cotterill.
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Post by bloogas on Feb 11, 2021 11:03:43 GMT
Frankly mango he reminds me of Dobson. Never displayed much interest or passion. Swanned off with a payoff to put into his wife's boutique.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 11:52:32 GMT
Here is my 2 penneth Tisdale did worse than Garner, the striker was a clear need ahead of a keeper and right back from day one, we should have had one tapped up, pre-signed and signed by 1st Jan, the upshot of this is that we haven't won since then. We are allowed to go down in the same way we are allowed to do well. I think he lost the dressing room and didn't work to his potential concentrating more on players not celebrating goals than the basics of defending and creating chances. This squad is capable but he was the wrong man. His attitude was wrong in press conferences, the fact that he might not feel backed is very naive of him in today's football, he knew what he was letting himself in for. We looked like getting a semblance of consistency at home after wins v Plymouth and Blackpool, the Charlton game was the start of the real slide for me. That horrific corner, the fact that it's ok for a player to leave it for his keeper. We were in that game and the confidence seemed to drain from the squad, especially forward players from that moment. Then came the defence, the Rochdale game was unacceptable a real chance to pick up 3 pts at home and it just seemed ok to lose, Accrington was the nadir and he got what he deserved for a lack of preparation. He takes full responsibility for that result and performance. Let's see a reaction, 4 pts from the next 2 games will see that. 1 point, goodbye. Garner did better in the first 10 games. His binning of Harries and Tutonda was strange. I don't feel he was unfortunate or unlucky in any way, some might say now lucky to get as many points as we did. Good riddance. Make the next one a good one please Wael, I still back you because you have saved our club, but we stilm have a chance of staying up, look at Shrewsbury, look at how Cardiff have gone for a 'dinosaur', maybe we should have got Cotterill. This is almost a daily mantra on here, but why? UWE was a done deal, now we have a new tent and the total owed / invested / secured against the stadium is roughly 400% what it was the day that Wael arrived.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 11, 2021 12:24:15 GMT
Here is my 2 penneth Tisdale did worse than Garner, the striker was a clear need ahead of a keeper and right back from day one, we should have had one tapped up, pre-signed and signed by 1st Jan, the upshot of this is that we haven't won since then. We are allowed to go down in the same way we are allowed to do well. I think he lost the dressing room and didn't work to his potential concentrating more on players not celebrating goals than the basics of defending and creating chances. This squad is capable but he was the wrong man. His attitude was wrong in press conferences, the fact that he might not feel backed is very naive of him in today's football, he knew what he was letting himself in for. We looked like getting a semblance of consistency at home after wins v Plymouth and Blackpool, the Charlton game was the start of the real slide for me. That horrific corner, the fact that it's ok for a player to leave it for his keeper. We were in that game and the confidence seemed to drain from the squad, especially forward players from that moment. Then came the defence, the Rochdale game was unacceptable a real chance to pick up 3 pts at home and it just seemed ok to lose, Accrington was the nadir and he got what he deserved for a lack of preparation. He takes full responsibility for that result and performance. Let's see a reaction, 4 pts from the next 2 games will see that. 1 point, goodbye. Garner did better in the first 10 games. His binning of Harries and Tutonda was strange. I don't feel he was unfortunate or unlucky in any way, some might say now lucky to get as many points as we did. Good riddance. Make the next one a good one please Wael, I still back you because you have saved our club, but we stilm have a chance of staying up, look at Shrewsbury, look at how Cardiff have gone for a 'dinosaur', maybe we should have got Cotterill. Agree about Cotterill but so did SH & look what happened
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 11, 2021 12:27:58 GMT
Here is my 2 penneth Tisdale did worse than Garner, the striker was a clear need ahead of a keeper and right back from day one, we should have had one tapped up, pre-signed and signed by 1st Jan, the upshot of this is that we haven't won since then. We are allowed to go down in the same way we are allowed to do well. I think he lost the dressing room and didn't work to his potential concentrating more on players not celebrating goals than the basics of defending and creating chances. This squad is capable but he was the wrong man. His attitude was wrong in press conferences, the fact that he might not feel backed is very naive of him in today's football, he knew what he was letting himself in for. We looked like getting a semblance of consistency at home after wins v Plymouth and Blackpool, the Charlton game was the start of the real slide for me. That horrific corner, the fact that it's ok for a player to leave it for his keeper. We were in that game and the confidence seemed to drain from the squad, especially forward players from that moment. Then came the defence, the Rochdale game was unacceptable a real chance to pick up 3 pts at home and it just seemed ok to lose, Accrington was the nadir and he got what he deserved for a lack of preparation. He takes full responsibility for that result and performance. Let's see a reaction, 4 pts from the next 2 games will see that. 1 point, goodbye. Garner did better in the first 10 games. His binning of Harries and Tutonda was strange. I don't feel he was unfortunate or unlucky in any way, some might say now lucky to get as many points as we did. Good riddance. Make the next one a good one please Wael, I still back you because you have saved our club, but we stilm have a chance of staying up, look at Shrewsbury, look at how Cardiff have gone for a 'dinosaur', maybe we should have got Cotterill. This is almost a daily mantra on here, but why? UWE was a done deal, now we have a new tent and the total owed / invested / secured against the stadium is roughly 400% what it was the day that Wael arrived. That is absolute fact & it’s just incredible that anyone could allow it to happen. I remember feeling real hope of real progression, after the 2nd promotion but we have had our proverbial balloon well and truly burst
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Post by mangogas15 on Feb 11, 2021 13:12:05 GMT
Here is my 2 penneth Tisdale did worse than Garner, the striker was a clear need ahead of a keeper and right back from day one, we should have had one tapped up, pre-signed and signed by 1st Jan, the upshot of this is that we haven't won since then. We are allowed to go down in the same way we are allowed to do well. I think he lost the dressing room and didn't work to his potential concentrating more on players not celebrating goals than the basics of defending and creating chances. This squad is capable but he was the wrong man. His attitude was wrong in press conferences, the fact that he might not feel backed is very naive of him in today's football, he knew what he was letting himself in for. We looked like getting a semblance of consistency at home after wins v Plymouth and Blackpool, the Charlton game was the start of the real slide for me. That horrific corner, the fact that it's ok for a player to leave it for his keeper. We were in that game and the confidence seemed to drain from the squad, especially forward players from that moment. Then came the defence, the Rochdale game was unacceptable a real chance to pick up 3 pts at home and it just seemed ok to lose, Accrington was the nadir and he got what he deserved for a lack of preparation. He takes full responsibility for that result and performance. Let's see a reaction, 4 pts from the next 2 games will see that. 1 point, goodbye. Garner did better in the first 10 games. His binning of Harries and Tutonda was strange. I don't feel he was unfortunate or unlucky in any way, some might say now lucky to get as many points as we did. Good riddance. Make the next one a good one please Wael, I still back you because you have saved our club, but we stilm have a chance of staying up, look at Shrewsbury, look at how Cardiff have gone for a 'dinosaur', maybe we should have got Cotterill. This is almost a daily mantra on here, but why? UWE was a done deal, now we have a new tent and the total owed / invested / secured against the stadium is roughly 400% what it was the day that Wael arrived. Yep, i get the question, he has my support now mainly for the solvency when you see what happened to Bury and what is going on at Swindon. We were paying £4k a week to someone who wasn't in the matchday squad not long ago, we are more stable than we were 10 years ago and in L1, just.. We are one decent appointment away from getting it right and he came through on the training ground, backed himself but was let down.
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Post by TaiwanGas on Feb 11, 2021 13:15:57 GMT
Absolutely no surprise, neither liked or disliked him as Manager. From the very start I thought it odd that he took the job and then declared he knew nothing about any of our players!, add to that he openly bemoaned the training ground's facilities and access, and declared a 0-2 defeat as fabulous on the back of a terrible run, it seem's about right to me, he started to get very twitchy toward the end in his interviews (Just as Garner did). Actually I can understand him mentioning the training facilities. Although us Gasheads are pleased that finally we have a new training ground, what Tisdale built at the Cliff Hill Training Ground at Exeter is far superior. I say he built, all transfer income under his direction, and there has been millions, were directed towards improving the structure of the club. Training Ground, stadium, pitch (although The Mem pitch is currently better). He is more than a first team coach and that is why from the start I said he would have needed a lot of time but knew he would never get it because here it is all about first team results and winning when City lose. Interesting Pop's. I think Garner used up all the extended time credit!. I had thought that this board with the unwavering vision they have would take a drop in division, clearly I was wrong.
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Post by laughinggas on Feb 11, 2021 13:16:05 GMT
Looking forwards, wonder what the processes is to appointment a new manager. Will they take applications? Will they head hunt? Appoint from within? Be on trend and look overseas? Have a halftime draw?
Assume nothing said yet.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 13:24:50 GMT
This is almost a daily mantra on here, but why? UWE was a done deal, now we have a new tent and the total owed / invested / secured against the stadium is roughly 400% what it was the day that Wael arrived. Yep, i get the question, he has my support now mainly for the solvency when you see what happened to Bury and what is going on at Swindon. We were paying £4k a week to someone who wasn't in the matchday squad not long ago, we are more stable than we were 10 years ago and in L1, just.. We are one decent appointment away from getting it right and he came through on the training ground, backed himself but was let down. Fair enough. I'm struggling with his record. He took over a L2 team just about to be promoted, then took credit for it. A short period of consolidation, then gradual decline. Training facility isn't finished, and may well be a good long term investment, we'll see. Even if we did get lucky and somehow pluck a manager out of thin air who did what Coughlan did, could we keep him, would it address the overarching structural issues that have lead to the massive losses shown on the accounts? Swindon have been a basket case for as long as I can remember, unless someone with a huge pile of money takes them over it's a matter of time before they go the same was as Bury. What actually concerns me is not knowing what happens when the total debt / investment, call it whatever you like, exceeds the realisable value of the assets at Wael's disposal.
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 11, 2021 21:53:21 GMT
Here is my 2 penneth Tisdale did worse than Garner, the striker was a clear need ahead of a keeper and right back from day one, we should have had one tapped up, pre-signed and signed by 1st Jan, the upshot of this is that we haven't won since then. We are allowed to go down in the same way we are allowed to do well. I think he lost the dressing room and didn't work to his potential concentrating more on players not celebrating goals than the basics of defending and creating chances. This squad is capable but he was the wrong man. His attitude was wrong in press conferences, the fact that he might not feel backed is very naive of him in today's football, he knew what he was letting himself in for. We looked like getting a semblance of consistency at home after wins v Plymouth and Blackpool, the Charlton game was the start of the real slide for me. That horrific corner, the fact that it's ok for a player to leave it for his keeper. We were in that game and the confidence seemed to drain from the squad, especially forward players from that moment. Then came the defence, the Rochdale game was unacceptable a real chance to pick up 3 pts at home and it just seemed ok to lose, Accrington was the nadir and he got what he deserved for a lack of preparation. He takes full responsibility for that result and performance. Let's see a reaction, 4 pts from the next 2 games will see that. 1 point, goodbye. Garner did better in the first 10 games. His binning of Harries and Tutonda was strange. I don't feel he was unfortunate or unlucky in any way, some might say now lucky to get as many points as we did. Good riddance. Make the next one a good one please Wael, I still back you because you have saved our club, but we stilm have a chance of staying up, look at Shrewsbury, look at how Cardiff have gone for a 'dinosaur', maybe we should have got Cotterill. Agree about Cotterill but so did SH & look what happened I even think Cotterill would have struggled getting as much out of the team given the wider environment of the club. When was the last time a board member had to become a caretaker manager in the English league? Wasn't it Ron Noades at Brentford?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 11, 2021 23:47:56 GMT
Agree about Cotterill but so did SH & look what happened I even think Cotterill would have struggled getting as much out of the team given the wider environment of the club. When was the last time a board member had to become a caretaker manager in the English league? Wasn't it Ron Noades at Brentford? I would be the last person to ask. I just hope that TW can get some points with this lot. He is the only logical choice at this juncture. Feeling embarrassed by this who fiasco
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Post by baselswh on May 16, 2023 12:02:09 GMT
We agree here, so my miffed tone isn't directed towards you at all, but Garner had no idea what he was doing, he was a coach with zero experience of recruitment, this is squarely at the door of Wael, with Widdrington up to his neck in it as well. To put that bloke in charge just puts a cherry on top of the steaming pile of manure. not sure if there is a bus big enough to take Wael and his entourage We were all fed up to a greater or lesser extent.The general consensus was Rovers are in a mess,"On The Road To Nowhere" as LIS suggested. No mistake about it,if ever a FC needed a shake up,it was Bristol Rovers . Enter the stage Joe Barton.
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