harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Jan 8, 2021 14:39:44 GMT
Strong rumour the forgotten man David Tutonda who has not featured under PT is off to Northampton Town.
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Post by irishrover on Jan 8, 2021 15:46:30 GMT
I'd be a bit dissapointed by that. I thought he looked decent or at least had potential.
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 8, 2021 16:15:19 GMT
Strong rumour the forgotten man David Tutonda who has not featured under PT is off to Northampton Town. I thought he was caught out of position a few times getting forward under BG. But in his defence, no-one seemed to know what the 'plan' was under BG... the left sided CB (Harries usually) should have been covering the position. Tutonda looks a good player to me. UTG.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Jan 8, 2021 18:12:01 GMT
Kelly stays, tutonda goes? Wrong call.
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Post by laughinggas on Jan 8, 2021 18:50:36 GMT
Kelly stays, tutonda goes? Wrong call. Kelly out of contract end of season. Nothing in the rumour on Dave as if a loan or a sale. If loan could be a good move.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2021 19:24:54 GMT
Kelly stays, tutonda goes? Wrong call. Tutonda is a wingback whereas Micky is a fullback. We no longer play wingbacks.
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Post by TaiwanGas on Jan 8, 2021 19:59:26 GMT
Thankfully PT soon sussed out that the Wingback formation was not working for him or us. I really liked Tutonda and thought he had bags of potential, if he is off to pastures new, it is with my best wishes and good luck for the future.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Jan 8, 2021 22:47:26 GMT
Kelly stays, tutonda goes? Wrong call. Tutonda is a wingback whereas Micky is a fullback. We no longer play wingbacks. Wrong! Tutonda can rip this division up as a box to box midfielder. I guess you will be arguing with me Ian Alexander is in fact a winger, penrice a midfielder, and Billy Ocean Stokes reserve team fullback. the only other person at our club who can cross a ball as well as Tutonda is Hare. The only other person who can close three yards to a player quicker than Tutonda is... zilch, nobody, he has footballing qualities no one at this club has.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 9, 2021 10:11:11 GMT
Interesting times.
Tuts appeared to (proportionately) explode on the scene when BG dropped our top goalscorer, Leahy.
Now, a few months and a manager on, Leahy has kinda been restored as our regular left sided defender. That's now 3 managers choosing him ahead of other competition, and sometimes no competition.
Leahy has a penalty in him, and although isn't the finished article for many, and is certainly no legend in form of Browner or Joner, but has become the 'go to' left sided defender we all have comprised for and done ok for us.
I'm surprised DT hasn't pushed on, but maybe Leahy is doing all the things managers like to see holistically in a defensive way?
I would prefer we keep DT.
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Post by Peter Parker on Jan 9, 2021 10:24:19 GMT
Interesting times. Tuts appeared to (proportionately) explode on the scene when BG dropped our top goalscorer, Leahy. Now, a few months and a manager on, Leahy has kinda been restored as our regular left sided defender. That's now 3 managers choosing him ahead of other competition, and sometimes no competition. Leahy has a penalty in him, and although isn't the finished article for many, and is certainly no legend in form of Browner or Joner, but has become the 'go to' left sided defender we all have comprised for and done ok for us. I'm surprised DT hasn't pushed on, but maybe Leahy is doing all the things managers like to see holistically in a defensive way? I would prefer we keep DT. Leahy is an average 3rd division full back and far more experienced than anyone else we have. No shame in that Yeah we can probably do better, but he is nowhere near as bad as some makebout
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Post by bondigas on Jan 9, 2021 10:41:22 GMT
If Tutonda does go there are another 18 to get rid of in this window, with Ogogo coming back next week we will have 41 pros on the books which includes 5 goalkeepers. There is a problem though, which club or who has the money to take on 18 journeymen players on good money when they have to look after their own perilous finances. You have to hand it to the "highly recommended" Garner he was a man of his word, he would leave a lasting legacy.
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Post by The Concept on Jan 9, 2021 10:52:42 GMT
I can't recall any defensive weaknesses from Dave, as I've seen some say, and in fact quite the opposite. I was impressed with his play both going forwards and at the back - quite tenacious in the tackle.
One time I did see him caught out was in a game where the same happened to both full-backs (it might have been home to Hull City). For goals both left-back and right-back gave too much room out wide, and were stood just inside the penalty area - even more strange seeing as though we were playing with wing-backs at the time, so effectively 5 across the back when out of possession.
I can only assume they were positioning themselves by instruction.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Jan 9, 2021 20:56:10 GMT
I can't recall any defensive weaknesses from Dave, as I've seen some say, and in fact quite the opposite. I was impressed with his play both going forwards and at the back - quite tenacious in the tackle. One time I did see him caught out was in a game where the same happened to both full-backs (it might have been home to Hull City). For goals both left-back and right-back gave too much room out wide, and were stood just inside the penalty area - even more strange seeing as though we were playing with wing-backs at the time, so effectively 5 across the back when out of possession. I can only assume they were positioning themselves by instruction. one good thing to say about Leahy he doesn’t shirk a 50/50.
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Post by lostinspace on Jan 9, 2021 21:17:17 GMT
Interesting times. Tuts appeared to (proportionately) explode on the scene when BG dropped our top goalscorer, Leahy. Now, a few months and a manager on, Leahy has kinda been restored as our regular left sided defender. That's now 3 managers choosing him ahead of other competition, and sometimes no competition. Leahy has a penalty in him, and although isn't the finished article for many, and is certainly no legend in form of Browner or Joner, but has become the 'go to' left sided defender we all have comprised for and done ok for us. I'm surprised DT hasn't pushed on, but maybe Leahy is doing all the things managers like to see holistically in a defensive way? I would prefer we keep DT. Leahy is an average 3rd division full back and far more experienced than anyone else we have. No shame in that Yeah we can probably do better, but he is nowhere near as bad as some makebout on todays display he was a tad better than your "average 3rd division full back"
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Post by The Concept on Jan 23, 2021 11:55:37 GMT
I can't recall any defensive weaknesses from Dave, as I've seen some say, and in fact quite the opposite. I was impressed with his play both going forwards and at the back - quite tenacious in the tackle. One time I did see him caught out was in a game where the same happened to both full-backs (it might have been home to Hull City). For goals both left-back and right-back gave too much room out wide, and were stood just inside the penalty area - even more strange seeing as though we were playing with wing-backs at the time, so effectively 5 across the back when out of possession. I can only assume they were positioning themselves by instruction. one good thing to say about Leahy he doesn’t shirk a 50/50. I don't subscribe to the flack that Leahy picks up - I think he's a dependable Tier 3 left-back / wing-back, who has done equally well for us going forwards and in defence. Recently I saw stuff on social media that he should be dropped because he's 'made the same mistake twice', in clearances from left-back going to an opposition player. Yet looking at both those incidents, the ball is out wide and a lot happens before it ends up in the net. 1) Westbrooke really should have done better in preventing the cross, he was very close and should have put a foot in to block it / the cross comes in and Baldwin loses the player he is marking, spins around, and has now lost sight of both the player and ball. 2) The opposition carry out a series of passes, unchallenged, past lots of Rovers players, before it ends up in the net. On both occasions, apparently, according to some, Leahy was to blame. Sometimes it seems that people don't like a player from the start, and are looking for the slightest reason to blame them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 22:06:16 GMT
Sometimes it seems that people don't like a player from the start, and are looking for the slightest reason to blame them. 'Sometimes'?
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jan 24, 2021 7:30:51 GMT
<Sometimes it seems that people don't like a player from the start, and are looking for the slightest reason to blame them.>
That applies to managers too. Coughlan took so much stick for his up and at 'em style of football from a section of our supporters that I'm not surprised he up and left. Fans latch on to terrace murmurs of discontent like lemmings. I once asked a couple of Coughlan's "his football is crap" geniuses how many away games they'd seen. They'd seen none but he was still rubbish. It wasn't his football, but him as a person they disliked. His face didn't fit. The same with Garner because of the way he dressed or because his name was Ben or whatever. Once they get their teeth into someone there's no looking back because they have to be proven right at any cost.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 27, 2021 18:02:22 GMT
<Sometimes it seems that people don't like a player from the start, and are looking for the slightest reason to blame them.> That applies to managers too. Coughlan took so much stick for his up and at 'em style of football from a section of our supporters that I'm not surprised he up and left. Fans latch on to terrace murmurs of discontent like lemmings. I once asked a couple of Coughlan's "his football is crap" geniuses how many away games they'd seen. They'd seen none but he was still rubbish. It wasn't his football, but him as a person they disliked. His face didn't fit. The same with Garner because of the way he dressed or because his name was Ben or whatever. Once they get their teeth into someone there's no looking back because they have to be proven right at any cost. As was/is the case with DC. To me, he provided the club with restored pride and fight and I would always buy him a few pints yet some were determined to see him fail and it was a big reason why I stopped using the other place
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Post by carlts2020 on Jan 27, 2021 19:14:49 GMT
<Sometimes it seems that people don't like a player from the start, and are looking for the slightest reason to blame them.> That applies to managers too. Coughlan took so much stick for his up and at 'em style of football from a section of our supporters that I'm not surprised he up and left. Fans latch on to terrace murmurs of discontent like lemmings. I once asked a couple of Coughlan's "his football is crap" geniuses how many away games they'd seen. They'd seen none but he was still rubbish. It wasn't his football, but him as a person they disliked. His face didn't fit. The same with Garner because of the way he dressed or because his name was Ben or whatever. Once they get their teeth into someone there's no looking back because they have to be proven right at any cost. As was/is the case with DC. To me, he provided the club with restored pride and fight and I would always buy him a few pints yet some were determined to see him fail and it was a big reason why I stopped using the other place Completely agree...GC and BG put their heart and soul into the job and club. Neither slagged the club, board, players or fans off after leaving. GC had his reasons and family always comes first. If someone tries their best they should always get a minimum level of respect and treatment. Some of the name calling and abuse is appalling at times. I doubt the salary is as much as anyone thinks when you are a promoted coach / rookie manager and having to go home to your family after being booed by the fans or slagged off must be very tough. I wouldn’t do it for sure.
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