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Post by basel on Dec 12, 2020 10:22:01 GMT
I voted Remain,but changed my mind.
I'm happy we're going our own way.
I think it'll now be WTO/Assie Rules for the UK.Complicated stuff,loads I don't understand, willing to listen.
Hope's, fears and challenges.
Here we go!
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Rex
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Post by Rex on Dec 12, 2020 11:29:01 GMT
I voted Remain,but changed my mind. I'm happy we're going our own way. I think it'll now be WTO/Assie Rules for the UK.Complicated stuff,loads I don't understand, willing to listen. Hope's, fears and challenges. Here we go! I have worked in electrical wholesale all of my working life. There are a couple of huge international companies that buy from their suppliers independently, they have the wealth and sheer numbers of branches to negotiate independently with suppliers and larger customers. These leaves a lot of various wholesalers all over the UK, who band together in various buying groups to give them the clout to negotiate on a reasonably level playing field with the big boys. It works incredibly well, the smaller companies realised years ago, that if they banded together they would be in a much stronger trading position. I'd say it was common sense. I think , it would be possible, with an awful lot of thought and planning for the UK to 'go it alone' and be relatively successful although on a much smaller scale. However a) Why bother when you're already doing just fine thank you very much . And b) You would actually have to have put some serious thought into just how about you would go about leaving and then renegotiating trade deals. I should point out to clarify that I don't believe shouting out 'We are taking back control' over and over again is likely to bring much success whatsoever. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2020 13:22:14 GMT
I voted Remain,but changed my mind. I'm happy we're going our own way. I think it'll now be WTO/Assie Rules for the UK.Complicated stuff,loads I don't understand, willing to listen. Hope's, fears and challenges. Here we go! I have worked in electrical wholesale all of my working life. There are a couple of huge international companies that buy from their suppliers independently, they have the wealth and sheer numbers of branches to negotiate independently with suppliers and larger customers. These leaves a lot of various wholesalers all over the UK, who band together in various buying groups to give them the clout to negotiate on a reasonably level playing field with the big boys. It works incredibly well, the smaller companies realised years ago, that if they banded together they would be in a much stronger trading position. I'd say it was common sense. I think , it would be possible, with an awful lot of thought and planning for the UK to 'go it alone' and be relatively successful although on a much smaller scale. However a) Why bother when you're already doing just fine thank you very much . And b) You would actually have to have put some serious thought into just how about you would go about leaving and then renegotiating trade deals. I should point out to clarify that I don't believe shouting out 'We are taking back control' over and over again is likely to bring much success whatsoever. 😂😂😂😂 Indeed. |
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Post by basel on Dec 12, 2020 14:23:48 GMT
I voted Remain,but changed my mind. I'm happy we're going our own way. I think it'll now be WTO/Assie Rules for the UK.Complicated stuff,loads I don't understand, willing to listen. Hope's, fears and challenges. Here we go! I have worked in electrical wholesale all of my working life. There are a couple of huge international companies that buy from their suppliers independently, they have the wealth and sheer numbers of branches to negotiate independently with suppliers and larger customers. These leaves a lot of various wholesalers all over the UK, who band together in various buying groups to give them the clout to negotiate on a reasonably level playing field with the big boys. It works incredibly well, the smaller companies realised years ago, that if they banded together they would be in a much stronger trading position. I'd say it was common sense. I think , it would be possible, with an awful lot of thought and planning for the UK to 'go it alone' and be relatively successful although on a much smaller scale. However a) Why bother when you're already doing just fine thank you very much . And b) You would actually have to have put some serious thought into just how about you would go about leaving and then renegotiating trade deals. I should point out to clarify that I don't believe shouting out 'We are taking back control' over and over again is likely to bring much success whatsoever. Sounds quite positive Rex A.We have bothered,so whatever people voted,it's time to get on with it. We've left. B.I imagine we've got some very good trade negotiators. The Canada,Australia, New Zealand trade thing sounds promising, does'nt it? Are their opportunities amongst our other Commonwealth freinds? Our fishing industry can grow.Maybe. Our fish n chips might become cheaper,perhaps? |
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Post by basel on Dec 12, 2020 14:31:11 GMT
I see the Royal Navy are on standby to patrol our waters in the event of a WTO.
The French Fisher-people are especially unhappy and may get up to mischief.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2020 14:39:31 GMT
Only 178,000 people work in Europe’s fishing industry — just 0.03 percent of the total population. About 12,000 of them are British, which is around 0.02 percent of the U.K. population. The fishing industry in the U.K. only accounts for 0.1 percent of the country’s GDP. (Politico)
Access to 'UK waters' is a red herring. The whole fishing industry discussion looks suspicious to me; it stinks, there's something fishy going on.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2020 14:50:18 GMT
I have worked in electrical wholesale all of my working life. There are a couple of huge international companies that buy from their suppliers independently, they have the wealth and sheer numbers of branches to negotiate independently with suppliers and larger customers. These leaves a lot of various wholesalers all over the UK, who band together in various buying groups to give them the clout to negotiate on a reasonably level playing field with the big boys. It works incredibly well, the smaller companies realised years ago, that if they banded together they would be in a much stronger trading position. I'd say it was common sense. I think , it would be possible, with an awful lot of thought and planning for the UK to 'go it alone' and be relatively successful although on a much smaller scale. However a) Why bother when you're already doing just fine thank you very much . And b) You would actually have to have put some serious thought into just how about you would go about leaving and then renegotiating trade deals. I should point out to clarify that I don't believe shouting out 'We are taking back control' over and over again is likely to bring much success whatsoever. Sounds quite positive Rex A.We have bothered,so whatever people voted,it's time to get on with it. We've left. B.I imagine we've got some very good trade negotiators. The Canada,Australia, New Zealand trade thing sounds promising, does'nt it? Are their opportunities amongst our other Commonwealth freinds? Our fishing industry can grow.Maybe. Our fish n chips might become cheaper,perhaps? Tell me Basel you are on a wind up. Please |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2020 14:51:22 GMT
Only 178,000 people work in Europe’s fishing industry — just 0.03 percent of the total population. About 12,000 of them are British, which is around 0.02 percent of the U.K. population. The fishing industry in the U.K. only accounts for 0.1 percent of the country’s GDP. (Politico) Access to 'UK waters' is a red herring. The whole fishing industry discussion looks suspicious to me; it stinks, there's something fishy going on. On the assumption you are not taking the piss,nationalism cloaked in the flag Darlo |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2020 14:58:23 GMT
Only 178,000 people work in Europe’s fishing industry — just 0.03 percent of the total population. About 12,000 of them are British, which is around 0.02 percent of the U.K. population. The fishing industry in the U.K. only accounts for 0.1 percent of the country’s GDP. (Politico) Access to 'UK waters' is a red herring. The whole fishing industry discussion looks suspicious to me; it stinks, there's something fishy going on. On the assumption you are not taking the piss,nationalism cloaked in the flag Darlo 😉 |
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Post by Rex on Dec 12, 2020 18:50:55 GMT
I have worked in electrical wholesale all of my working life. There are a couple of huge international companies that buy from their suppliers independently, they have the wealth and sheer numbers of branches to negotiate independently with suppliers and larger customers. These leaves a lot of various wholesalers all over the UK, who band together in various buying groups to give them the clout to negotiate on a reasonably level playing field with the big boys. It works incredibly well, the smaller companies realised years ago, that if they banded together they would be in a much stronger trading position. I'd say it was common sense. I think , it would be possible, with an awful lot of thought and planning for the UK to 'go it alone' and be relatively successful although on a much smaller scale. However a) Why bother when you're already doing just fine thank you very much . And b) You would actually have to have put some serious thought into just how about you would go about leaving and then renegotiating trade deals. I should point out to clarify that I don't believe shouting out 'We are taking back control' over and over again is likely to bring much success whatsoever. Sounds quite positive Rex A.We have bothered,so whatever people voted,it's time to get on with it. We've left. B.I imagine we've got some very good trade negotiators.The Canada,Australia, New Zealand trade thing sounds promising, does'nt it? Are their opportunities amongst our other Commonwealth freinds? Our fishing industry can grow.Maybe. Our fish n chips might become cheaper,perhaps? I can't tell if you are taking the piss or not! But yes, we have to get on with it, in fact we should have been getting on with it for the past 4 years, quite why the government didn't think the same is beyond me. |
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Post by basel on Dec 12, 2020 19:31:38 GMT
On the assumption you are not taking the piss,nationalism cloaked in the flag Darlo 😉 Anyone know the percentages back when we joined the Common Market, or whatever it was called 40 odd years ago ? I mean unless it's more "propaganda" ,was'nt our fishing industry decimated? |
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Post by basel on Dec 12, 2020 19:35:36 GMT
Sounds quite positive Rex A.We have bothered,so whatever people voted,it's time to get on with it. We've left. B.I imagine we've got some very good trade negotiators.The Canada,Australia, New Zealand trade thing sounds promising, does'nt it? Are their opportunities amongst our other Commonwealth freinds? Our fishing industry can grow.Maybe. Our fish n chips might become cheaper,perhaps? I can't tell if you are taking the piss or not! But yes, we have to get on with it, in fact we should have been getting on with it for the past 4 years, quite why the government didn't think the same is beyond me. Well not all the Goverment are 'useless' are they? I mean people like Gove are capable and he sits about 'war gaming' possibilities and what have you. Liz Truss seems to be doing a good job. A garden tea party hosted by Queen Elizabeth II may help bring a few bob in.😏 Haha!No,I'm not "taking the piss".😄 Just 'chatting'. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2020 19:38:37 GMT
Anyone know the percentages back when we joined the Common Market, or whatever it was called 40 odd years ago ? I mean unless it's more "propaganda" ,was'nt our fishing industry decimated? What about tin mining....I mean And the Spinning Jenny, wrecked the single artisan industry. The Enclosure Act....well that was bad |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2020 19:40:41 GMT
I can't tell if you are taking the piss or not! But yes, we have to get on with it, in fact we should have been getting on with it for the past 4 years, quite why the government didn't think the same is beyond me. Well not all the Goverment are not all'useless' are they? I mean people like Gove are capable and he sits about 'war gaming' possibilities and what have you. Liz Truss seems to be doing a good job. A garden tea party hosted by Queen Elizabeth II may help bring a few bob in.😏 Haha!No,I'm not "taking the piss".😄 Just 'chatting'. Michael "6 faces Gove"? Even he doesn't know whether he is telling the truth, or not. Ffs Basel, you actually believe this s***? |
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Post by basel on Dec 12, 2020 19:41:54 GMT
Anyone know the percentages back when we joined the Common Market, or whatever it was called 40 odd years ago ? I mean unless it's more "propaganda" ,was'nt our fishing industry decimated? What about tin mining....I mean And the Spinning Jenny, wrecked the single artisan industry. The Enclosure Act....well that was bad So I wonder how much larger our current fishing industry can grow then? |
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Post by basel on Dec 12, 2020 19:44:16 GMT
Well not all the Goverment are not all'useless' are they? I mean people like Gove are capable and he sits about 'war gaming' possibilities and what have you. Liz Truss seems to be doing a good job. A garden tea party hosted by Queen Elizabeth II may help bring a few bob in.😏 Haha!No,I'm not "taking the piss".😄 Just 'chatting'. Michael "6 faces Gove"? Even he doesn't know whether he is telling the truth, or not. Ffs Basel, you actually believe this s***? The man is not uncapable,that was my point. Like most Britons,I'm not very keen on many of our politicians. Edit.I mean he knows his 3 times table,unlike eg whatshername,Jeremy Corbyns X. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2020 20:00:45 GMT
Michael "6 faces Gove"? Even he doesn't know whether he is telling the truth, or not. Ffs Basel, you actually believe this s***? The man is not uncapable,that was my point. Like most Britons,I'm not very keen on many of our politicians. Edit.I mean he knows his 3 times table,unlike eg whatshername,Jeremy Corbyns X. He was one of the political leaders that led us into this mess..that marks him out as incapable. On top of that he has been sitting at the top table since 2010. Did you hear of the Joseph Rowntree Report on Destitution in the UK? Here www.jrf.org.uk/report/destitution-uk-2020This under their watch, he was sat at the table. Did you read about the reduction in Health Spending per Head in the North East? Here www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-55216408Now tell me this lot are capable. Now Brexit is foist upon us, WTO tariffs a distinct possibility. Guess who gets hurt the most from increased prices? And you support this? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2020 20:04:01 GMT
What about tin mining....I mean And the Spinning Jenny, wrecked the single artisan industry. The Enclosure Act....well that was bad So I wonder how much larger our current fishing industry can grow then? Not much We export most of our catch to the EU. That will be restricted with no deal and WTO tariffs you are applauding |
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Post by basel on Dec 12, 2020 20:10:36 GMT
The man is not uncapable,that was my point. Like most Britons,I'm not very keen on many of our politicians. Edit.I mean he knows his 3 times table,unlike eg whatshername,Jeremy Corbyns X. He was one of the political leaders that led us into this mess..that marks him out as incapable. On top of that he has been sitting at the top table since 2010. Did you hear of the Joseph Rowntree Report on Destitution in the UK? Here www.jrf.org.uk/report/destitution-uk-2020This under their watch, he was sat at the table. Did you read about the reduction in Health Spending per Head in the North East? Here www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-55216408Now tell me this lot are capable. Now Brexit is foist upon us, WTO tariffs a distinct possibility. Guess who gets hurt the most from increased prices? And you support this? The very poorly paid is sickening,I've been there myself the Tory theory always leaves some people behind.Awful and not right. What party would actually improve things? Do you trust any of them? Gove might be a selfish b******,most of em are,ar'nt they? How much time do you think reasonable - now we've left - before we ought to see things improving? A year,two or three? Do you only see failiure with the poorest of society getting it even worse? |
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Post by basel on Dec 12, 2020 20:15:57 GMT
So I wonder how much larger our current fishing industry can grow then? Not much We export most of our catch to the EU. That will be restricted with no deal and WTO tariffs you are applauding I think a deal with Iceland might be on the cards.Them fishing in our waters I think. I think we'll get some kind of fishing deal done with the EU next year,once they realise the UK is it's own Boss.Macron will be desperate by then and the Germans might help him out. Does this happen,catching fish,selling it to the Dutch and then buying it back for our shops? |
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