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Post by syg on Nov 24, 2020 22:44:37 GMT
Im surprised at the lack of comment about tonight, inc the main social media outlets.
A pro football team that is unable to pick a striker as it has so few and they are all injured. Add to that, when they are fit they have no competition.
Ive never been aware of this scenario before, its not as if we are particularly injury hit, its just that we appear to have more left backs than strikers and I think the same number of keepers.
This would be embarrassing for an amateur club.
Something has gone very badly wrong here, and you cant point the finger squarly at BG.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 23:37:06 GMT
I called it the other day- the recruitment has been really bad. Everyone seems to be attributing it to Garner, you’d never have thought we had a head a of recruitment. If Garner’s recruited the players then you have to wonder what the HOR does all day?
Whoever signed off only having 3 strikers at the start of the season, all 3 with hardly any league goals to their name, needs to look at themselves.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Nov 24, 2020 23:56:43 GMT
I am not saying I disagree, only in this modern game what is a striker? In Fantasy football terms aubo and Salah for example are midfielders. In old days strikers are your main goal scorers, you play 2 every week, with 2 more on bench. If we had 6 strikers how much game time would 5 of them get? One up front ploughing a lonely furrow in a 3 4 3 is how Ben sent them out the first few games of season.
It was interesting to see barrel back. We haven’t seen much of him, but what we have seen he could be a creative influence. Was he ticked off by bench as well as commentator for taking a shot? Our performance was crying out for more shots!
So I see your lack of striker discussion, I put it through siv of modern football, come to the conclusion who has been supporting hanlon in goal scoring? Take Liverpool as benchmark, firmino isn’t the one to get all the goals, whose our mane and Mo? It’s those positions where we have misfired. Rodman barrel, JML, Nicholson, Mcormack.
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Post by alanrg on Nov 25, 2020 0:01:12 GMT
Pathetic having no strikers available tonight and what a appalling miss by Sam Nicholson no wonder we have scored only 11 goals this season embarrassing Barrett still looks overweight that needs sorting out
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 0:21:05 GMT
I am not saying I disagree, only in this modern game what is a striker? In Fantasy football terms aubo and Salah for example are midfielders. In old days strikers are your main goal scorers, you play 2 every week, with 2 more on bench. If we had 6 strikers how much game time would 5 of them get? One up front ploughing a lonely furrow in a 3 4 3 is how Ben sent them out the first few games of season. It was interesting to see barrel back. We haven’t seen much of him, but what we have seen he could be a creative influence. Was he ticked off by bench as well as commentator for taking a shot? Our performance was crying out for more shots! So I see your lack of striker discussion, I put it through siv of modern football, come to the conclusion who has been supporting hanlon in goal scoring? Take Liverpool as benchmark, firmino isn’t the one to get all the goals, whose our mane and Mo? It’s those positions where we have misfired. Rodman barrel, JML, Nicholson, Mcormack. Poor recruitment again though. Although you do raise a point I hadn’t even considered about our squad and recruitment when you talk of support players who who chip in with goals. We often talk about the strikers not being experienced with not much league goal scoring to their name. But we haven’t exactly bought in goal scoring midfielders either have we? The only player we brought in this window who seems to know where the net is is Oztumer. It beggars belief how anyone thought this squad would have enough goals in it to stay up let alone challenge. It’s going to be a hard slog til January when we can try and add more goal scoring options.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 25, 2020 4:37:38 GMT
It took 5 years of progressive hard work to get to play off position with belief. That was last year.
Most of the social media was concerned with boring football and lowering of crowds. I didn't subscribe to this, I didn't complain at being 4th in league and credibly beating decent opposition.....we were hard to beat and had a strong pulse in the team with a recognised goalscorer, good local talent, decent youth performing well with experienced players and a strong heartbeat of team spirit with some leaders on the pitch.
In 11 months everything that was good has been dismantled in the name of progress because "youth" was the buzzword ... Even when pointed out that we shipped our youth out in favour of some other teams youth, it was roundly defended that we should give BG more time!
We made our bed. We are lying in it. It's set us back years to recover from this.
Some posts never listened, and we are paying the price for blind loyalty so yep, shambles is where we are and you just have to look back through the threads of "give it more time".
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 25, 2020 6:18:43 GMT
More like shameless the summer recruitment been found out get rid of the person responsible.
The departures of JCH, Craig, Meyenase, Clarke, Sercombe,Nichols and Ogogo to be replaced by inferior/cheaper players has highlighted our plight We were unable to best Wigan youth team. Disgraceful. PT needs to find a leader and match winner within the group.The league table does not lie. Not looking forward to Darlington on Sunday If they win not such a cup upset.
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Post by basel on Nov 25, 2020 7:46:54 GMT
Yes we're a striker short,but apparently we'll have one or two back for the Quakers Cup game.
Are our youngsters good enough or ought to be good enough soonish?The plan is we'll make them good enough.🤞
It's our new thing is'nt it.Young players require patience from supporters.How long were Coventry City 3rd tier?How long did it take Dario to get Crewe Alex flying?
Also,PT II has only been with us for what,two training sessions.Give him and it a chance.Generally speaking his record is very good.
I share the frustration of GC creating a challenging team,then leaving.Then Garner destroying it and along with it our challenge for promotion.Thing is and as PT I use to say "we are where we are" .
Imo,we have to give PT II a fair crack of the whip and hopefully enjoy him creating a passing and winning team.
That's the WAQ plan.
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Post by laughinggas on Nov 25, 2020 7:49:07 GMT
More like shameless the summer recruitment been found out get rid of the person responsible. The departures of JCH, Craig, Meyenase, Clarke, Sercombe,Nichols and Ogogo to be replaced by inferior/cheaper players has highlighted our plight We were unable to best Wigan youth team. Disgraceful. PT needs to find a leader and match winner within the group.The league table does not lie. Not looking forward to Darlington on Sunday If they win not such a cup upset. Apart from JCH who is in L1 and scoring goals, where are the rest and how are they playing?
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Post by laughinggas on Nov 25, 2020 7:53:33 GMT
When was the last time we had more than two recognised strikers in the squad? If JCH was injured most wrote of our chances of scoring. Tommy Nicholls, Gain Reilly, with various loan signings, none of them considered goal scorers. But someone wants to put a lot of blame on recruitment process. They can only suggest players to the manager, they cannot tell him to sign them.
Though am wondering about the loans of Abrahams and Oztumer.
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Post by Igitur on Nov 25, 2020 8:33:06 GMT
Never one really for saying, “I told you so “ but I posted recently we could field an XI of midfielders, but not a five-a-side team of forwards. With the ‘rigours’ of football you do need to have some depth of forwards no matter how average. Tisdale has seen Rovers play Mitch Harding when we visited Exeter once and we have even had Danny Coles up front. Keepers shortage one season and now it’s forwards, and I do blame BG as I recall he was asked about it in an interview.
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 25, 2020 8:59:27 GMT
Let's be fair lookdown and social media combined with ifollow makes all fans FIFA managers.
I feel all our pain but having only last week experienced the removal of a cancerous tumour in my bowel life is now put into perspective. I genuinely want my grandson aged 7 last week I bought him his first ever Rovers shirt. I dearly want to see him watch Rovers sat alongside me hopefully in the championship one day. Not much to ask.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Nov 25, 2020 9:01:17 GMT
I am not saying I disagree, only in this modern game what is a striker? In Fantasy football terms aubo and Salah for example are midfielders. In old days strikers are your main goal scorers, you play 2 every week, with 2 more on bench. If we had 6 strikers how much game time would 5 of them get? One up front ploughing a lonely furrow in a 3 4 3 is how Ben sent them out the first few games of season. It was interesting to see barrel back. We haven’t seen much of him, but what we have seen he could be a creative influence. Was he ticked off by bench as well as commentator for taking a shot? Our performance was crying out for more shots! So I see your lack of striker discussion, I put it through siv of modern football, come to the conclusion who has been supporting hanlon in goal scoring? Take Liverpool as benchmark, firmino isn’t the one to get all the goals, whose our mane and Mo? It’s those positions where we have misfired. Rodman barrel, JML, Nicholson, Mcormack. Not to mention the multiple uses of Harry Kane in a side that's top of the PL with under 40% possession.
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Post by thegasman on Nov 25, 2020 9:03:12 GMT
Im surprised at the lack of comment about tonight, inc the main social media outlets. A pro football team that is unable to pick a striker as it has so few and they are all injured. Add to that, when they are fit they have no competition. Ive never been aware of this scenario before, its not as if we are particularly injury hit, its just that we appear to have more left backs than strikers and I think the same number of keepers. This would be embarrassing for an amateur club. Something has gone very badly wrong here, and you cant point the finger squarly at BG. Bizarre that, as both Gas and Wigan didn't have any strikers.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Nov 25, 2020 9:11:30 GMT
6 years ago today we beat league leaders Barnet with goals from Angelo Balanta and Snakey.Nice when we actually used to score goals.
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Post by mangogas15 on Nov 25, 2020 9:17:20 GMT
Let's be fair lookdown and social media combined with ifollow makes all fans FIFA managers. I feel all our pain but having only last week experienced the removal of a cancerous tumour in my bowel life is now put into perspective. I genuinely want my grandson aged 7 last week I bought him his first ever Rovers shirt. I dearly want to see him watch Rovers sat alongside me hopefully in the championship one day. Not much to ask. Hope you're ok Mike. Nice mention from Keef last week on the commentary. Perspective is everything 👍
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Post by bloogas on Nov 25, 2020 9:19:48 GMT
Im surprised at the lack of comment about tonight, inc the main social media outlets. A pro football team that is unable to pick a striker as it has so few and they are all injured. Add to that, when they are fit they have no competition. Ive never been aware of this scenario before, its not as if we are particularly injury hit, its just that we appear to have more left backs than strikers and I think the same number of keepers. This would be embarrassing for an amateur club. Something has gone very badly wrong here, and you cant point the finger squarly at BG. Bizarre that, as both Gas and Wigan didn't have any strikers. And apparently not the first time PT has had to do it. See MK Dons.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 9:20:13 GMT
Let's be fair lookdown and social media combined with ifollow makes all fans FIFA managers. I feel all our pain but having only last week experienced the removal of a cancerous tumour in my bowel life is now put into perspective. I genuinely want my grandson aged 7 last week I bought him his first ever Rovers shirt. I dearly want to see him watch Rovers sat alongside me hopefully in the championship one day. Not much to ask. all the best in your recovery Mike. Perspective is hugely important isn't it. I hope you get your wish soon.
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Post by Igitur on Nov 25, 2020 9:48:08 GMT
Wigan are about to lose their top scorer to Robbie Fowler's side East Bengal, which is why he did not play last night (thankfully.)
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Post by rowdenhill on Nov 25, 2020 10:15:52 GMT
East Bengal - perhaps the only team named after a region rather than a town/city.
What's more, they're based in West Bengal.
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