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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 17, 2020 19:21:59 GMT
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topman
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Post by topman on Nov 17, 2020 20:04:53 GMT
I was very disappointed with his interview
His presentation was scruffy not a great 'look' for a CEO
He made no mention of thanking Ben for his efforts that is the least a departing manager deserves irrespective of results
They interviewed him, gave him the job on agreeing with his philosophy on football and now back track
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Rex
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Post by Rex on Nov 17, 2020 20:30:55 GMT
I was very disappointed with his interview His presentation was scruffy not a great 'look' for a CEO He made no mention of thanking Ben for his efforts that is the least a departing manager deserves irrespective of results
They interviewed him, gave him the job on agreeing with his philosophy on football and now back track The sooner we get rid of the meaningless platitudes that litter these types of interview the better
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Post by topman on Nov 17, 2020 20:47:42 GMT
No one sets out to fail in a position?
If as in this case someone has moved house, had to deal with a serious illness of a family member but was still committed to the role I think it is poor management not to ack that
Starnes was never very high in my estimation, as was Hamer, but has now lowered himself further
All about opinions
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Post by The Concept on Nov 17, 2020 21:22:59 GMT
I was very disappointed with his interview His presentation was scruffy not a great 'look' for a CEO He made no mention of thanking Ben for his efforts that is the least a departing manager deserves irrespective of results
They interviewed him, gave him the job on agreeing with his philosophy on football and now back track I hear what you're saying, but the club did this in the statement they put out on Saturday night " The Club would like to thank Ben Garner for all his hard work and wish him the very best of luck for the future", this interview is now 3 days on and now talking about the future, and he was answering the questions put before him. For what it's worth Starnes did thank Garner and wish him well in the interview on Points West that was broadcast tonight.
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Post by swissgas on Nov 17, 2020 21:40:47 GMT
I was very disappointed with his interview His presentation was scruffy not a great 'look' for a CEO He made no mention of thanking Ben for his efforts that is the least a departing manager deserves irrespective of results
They interviewed him, gave him the job on agreeing with his philosophy on football and now back track The sooner we get rid of the meaningless platitudes that litter these types of interview the better The meaningless platitudes and unpolished look are what keeps Gasheads motivated these days. Where would we be without them ?
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Post by syg on Nov 17, 2020 21:53:23 GMT
Im hoping to Garners comments, maybe on Thursday night.
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Nov 17, 2020 22:30:41 GMT
Im hoping to Garners comments, maybe on Thursday night. A picture is worth a thousand words.
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Post by swissgas on Nov 17, 2020 22:37:22 GMT
I was very disappointed with his interview His presentation was scruffy not a great 'look' for a CEO He made no mention of thanking Ben for his efforts that is the least a departing manager deserves irrespective of results They interviewed him, gave him the job on agreeing with his philosophy on football and now back track We are in a tiny minority topman. Gasheads seem convinced that this casual laid-back style is a sign of successful management and aren't at all concerned that there is no substance to it and no "fire in the belly" passion from either Martyn or Wael. Our leaders are whispering quietly about this unique Rovers DNA when the truth is that every lower league club is looking to sign and develop young players who haven't made it with bigger clubs and there is absolutely nothing special about it at all. The only possible way you could argue that Rovers were doing anything innovative was that we employed a coach who did have Premier League experience and was said to be good at nurturing young players. But that didn't work out too well and now he has gone we are told the only criteria for a new manager is that he is willing and able to fit in with the Bristol Rovers ethos. Play attacking entertaining football. Have a competitive team. Develop young players and sell them on to make the club sustainable. It seems fairly obvious to me that all lower league clubs have this exact same ethos and the winners and losers are determined by how good the management is, how much hard work they put in and how skilled they are at doing their job.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 1:06:56 GMT
No one sets out to fail in a position? If as in this case someone has moved house, had to deal with a serious illness of a family member but was still committed to the role I think it is poor management not to ack that Starnes was never very high in my estimation, as was Hamer, but has now lowered himself further All about opinions Seems a bit odd to thank someone from the bottom of your heart for moving closer to a job that *they* applied for. If we had to force BG to come here I could understand your point. At the end of the day Starnes was privy to Garner’s hard work more than most and he obviously didn’t see fit to mention it. Also, is it really that surprising? The open letter had barely any mention of Garner and to say the statement on the website was brief is an understatement. I get the impression that the board were very unhappy with Garner and his performance and that’s been reflected in the manner of the parting of ways.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 1:11:05 GMT
I was very disappointed with his interview His presentation was scruffy not a great 'look' for a CEO He made no mention of thanking Ben for his efforts that is the least a departing manager deserves irrespective of results They interviewed him, gave him the job on agreeing with his philosophy on football and now back track We are in a tiny minority topman. Gasheads seem convinced that this casual laid-back style is a sign of successful management and aren't at all concerned that there is no substance to it and no "fire in the belly" passion from either Martyn or Wael. Our leaders are whispering quietly about this unique Rovers DNA when the truth is that every lower league club is looking to sign and develop young players who haven't made it with bigger clubs and there is absolutely nothing special about it at all. The only possible way you could argue that Rovers were doing anything innovative was that we employed a coach who did have Premier League experience and was said to be good at nurturing young players. But that didn't work out too well and now he has gone we are told the only criteria for a new manager is that he is willing and able to fit in with the Bristol Rovers ethos. Play attacking entertaining football. Have a competitive team. Develop young players and sell them on to make the club sustainable. It seems fairly obvious to me that all lower league clubs have this exact same ethos and the winners and losers are determined by how good the management is, how much hard work they put in and how skilled they are at doing their job. Yeah I find it a bit desperate that we are trumpeting these new core values but it’s a bit like saying to people “I’m determined to make as much money as I can in life”, as a mission statement it’s stating the bloody obvious. You and everyone else! So we’re now looking for a manager who wants to play attacking passing football who has experience of the league we are in. Well, there should be plenty of them about, I mean most other clubs want to play crap football with a manager who hasn’t a clue what he’s doing, right?
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Post by bondigas on Nov 18, 2020 10:42:52 GMT
I thought both interviews with Starnes and Widdrington carried the same message, don't apply the job is already Widdrington's. Anybody that comes in if Widdrington fails over the next 5 games in charge would be alone with his hands tied behind his back having to work under a failed caretaker. As for Starnes's appearance yesterday, he looked as if he had slept rough in his car overnight and had just been dragged out to do the interview. He might think we as fans are a bunch of dicks but at least show some respect for the club you represent by looking the part of CEO.
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Post by TaiwanGas on Nov 18, 2020 12:25:12 GMT
I thought both interviews with Starnes and Widdrington carried the same message, don't apply the job is already Widdrington's. Anybody that comes in if Widdrington fails over the next 5 games in charge would be alone with his hands tied behind his back having to work under a failed caretaker. As for Starnes's appearance yesterday, he looked as if he had slept rough in his car overnight and had just been dragged out to do the interview. He might think we as fans are a bunch of dicks but at least show some respect for the club you represent by looking the part of CEO. Indeed Bondi!, I was shocked at Starnes look, but even more shocked at his opening sentence 'yeah sure man' I added the 'man' part but it sprang to mind immediately, I laughed so much I had to start the interview again as I missed the next part, twas a bit like Dylan from the Magic Roundabout. That being said, I thought it a reasonable interview come the end, perhaps he has had a few sleepless nights and late night phone calls.
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Post by toteend3 on Nov 18, 2020 12:27:59 GMT
Wael for me I thought he gave a good interview and 'talked the talk' and we shall in time find out if he 'walks the walk' ............
With respect to his just got out of bed look i most firmly approve for the following reasons - When Covid reared its ugly head I took the view like a lot of folk including many 'celeb's, friends, fellow directors etc and concluded this bas#### virus is a potential killer and in my case with age and Parkinson's against me I was going to live my life. So goodbye suits, ties, shaving barbers etc. I' don't consider my work efthic have slipped one iota but mentally I feel liberated and less stressed. it's the nearest me and Starnesey having a George Clooney / Ewan McGregor look..........
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Post by Rex on Nov 18, 2020 12:46:54 GMT
I thought both interviews with Starnes and Widdrington carried the same message, don't apply the job is already Widdrington's. Anybody that comes in if Widdrington fails over the next 5 games in charge would be alone with his hands tied behind his back having to work under a failed caretaker. As for Starnes's appearance yesterday, he looked as if he had slept rough in his car overnight and had just been dragged out to do the interview. He might think we as fans are a bunch of dicks but at least show some respect for the club you represent by looking the part of CEO. I didn't see Widdrington's interview, but Starnes clearly stated that he didn't want the job full time, are you saying you don't believe that?
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Post by kentgas on Nov 18, 2020 13:38:58 GMT
I thought both interviews with Starnes and Widdrington carried the same message, don't apply the job is already Widdrington's. Anybody that comes in if Widdrington fails over the next 5 games in charge would be alone with his hands tied behind his back having to work under a failed caretaker. As for Starnes's appearance yesterday, he looked as if he had slept rough in his car overnight and had just been dragged out to do the interview. He might think we as fans are a bunch of dicks but at least show some respect for the club you represent by looking the part of CEO. Strange, thought exactly the oposite. Cannot imagine why in the world TW would be interested. He has worked in scouting/recruitment for years and seems imo to be doing a great job - as he did at Coventry previously. Clearly trusted by Wael and Starmes and in a secure position with the club.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 14:02:40 GMT
I thought both interviews with Starnes and Widdrington carried the same message, don't apply the job is already Widdrington's. Anybody that comes in if Widdrington fails over the next 5 games in charge would be alone with his hands tied behind his back having to work under a failed caretaker. As for Starnes's appearance yesterday, he looked as if he had slept rough in his car overnight and had just been dragged out to do the interview. He might think we as fans are a bunch of dicks but at least show some respect for the club you represent by looking the part of CEO. Indeed Bondi!, I was shocked at Starnes look, but even more shocked at his opening sentence 'yeah sure man' I added the 'man' part but it sprang to mind immediately, I laughed so much I had to start the interview again as I missed the next part, twas a bit like Dylan from the Magic Roundabout. That being said, I thought it a reasonable interview come the end, perhaps he has had a few sleepless nights and late night phone calls. I thought he was, Starnes, excellent. Relaxed, on top of his subject matter and absolutely not needing to "power dress" to give an air of authority.
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Post by vaughan on Nov 18, 2020 15:23:22 GMT
The best part of the Starnes interview was that he and Wael realised that we were not going to be "competitive" in this division under Garner. I am sure that
Many had reached this sad conclusion ages ago. But the timing was right, given 33 games.
I do feel that there is now a professionalism off the pitch that has not been seen since 354 Stapleton Road closed its doors years ago. 😁
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Post by bloogas on Nov 18, 2020 16:04:23 GMT
I thought both interviews with Starnes and Widdrington carried the same message, don't apply the job is already Widdrington's. Anybody that comes in if Widdrington fails over the next 5 games in charge would be alone with his hands tied behind his back having to work under a failed caretaker. As for Starnes's appearance yesterday, he looked as if he had slept rough in his car overnight and had just been dragged out to do the interview. He might think we as fans are a bunch of dicks but at least show some respect for the club you represent by looking the part of CEO. Strange, thought exactly the oposite. Cannot imagine why in the world TW would be interested. He has worked in scouting/recruitment for years and seems imo to be doing a great job - as he did at Coventry previously. Clearly trusted by Wael and Starmes and in a secure position with the club. You might add is also a decision maker along with WAQ and MS. At least, that's the impression I got. I thought it was actually said.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 18, 2020 16:54:56 GMT
I was very disappointed with his interview His presentation was scruffy not a great 'look' for a CEO He made no mention of thanking Ben for his efforts that is the least a departing manager deserves irrespective of results They interviewed him, gave him the job on agreeing with his philosophy on football and now back track Hey it's all about opinions and I'm glad to say I disagree with the post completely! I'm sure we agree to disagree..? I thought in interview, MS represented the club, especially the board, admirably. BG wasn't given the dreaded 'vote of confidence', remained dignified throughout BG reign of Ips**t, Donny, Walsall and countless last season matches on social media....if you're referring to MS appearance as scruffy as a derogatory term, that's an opinion unimportant compared to subject matter. Imo. I disagree with the premise to thank someone automatically for their efforts, carte blanche, come what ever....this devalues the integrity of the gratitude, irrespective of results. It can be argued: BG took over a winning, successful 4th placed club with team spirit and difficult to score against defence, and over 11 months dismantled EVERYTHING 5 years philosophy had worked towards...? All with a smug grin, woeful performances and frankly insulting excuses. Statistically the worst manager in our history, and he deserves to be thanked for his efforts? Um, no... I disagree anyone has back-tracked on anything. BG definitely got his job on merits previously earned with employment elsewhere, then projected an image of his philosophies of the future, etc, but I think this was never at the expense of relegation? Unless you disagree?
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