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Post by toteend3 on Oct 17, 2020 16:12:40 GMT
Thing is under BG last season we would have lost - under BG this season disappointed not to win - Still early days I think there's more to come as team gels - Should be there or there abouts play offs come end of season -.Not relegation fodder as some would make you believe- UTG
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 17, 2020 16:25:04 GMT
I thought the substitutions were a bit negative. Upson is sideways, backwards. In hindsight (yeah I know) we should have brought on Messi earlier and pinned Burton back. We should have pushed for a 2nd. Instead we let Burton back into it and they just about deserved a draw. Some great crosses from Hare - Hanlan might need to work on his finishing. Two very good chances that were headed wide. Anyway, with the assistance of copious amounts of Blackthorn Reserve, I'm still in a good mood. 7 points from the last 3 games. Upwards and onwards.
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Post by harrybuckle on Oct 17, 2020 16:33:24 GMT
Underwhelming sort of feeling following the draw. We allowed our opponents that scrambled goal and despite the unfortunate header from Nicholson which hit the crossbar from another superb cross from Hare. Felt The Turkish Messi needed to be on 30 mins from the end Upson did nothing to enhance himself.
We needed to test the goalkeeper far more. Two points dropped
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Post by laughinggas on Oct 17, 2020 16:45:29 GMT
Think Burton need to be given a little credit, better than bottom of league. Stopped most of our play apart from Hare
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Post by crater on Oct 17, 2020 17:27:34 GMT
Not great today but how the heck was that not a penalty?
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 17, 2020 17:45:03 GMT
Not great today but how the heck was that not a penalty? The handball? Ref unsighted, linesman with no b*llocks and no VAR... these decisions even out over a season and I'm happier with that than with VAR. Ask a Liverpol fan. LOL.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 18, 2020 7:49:48 GMT
Kinda just got back.
I thought we played well and were unlucky not to take all three points.
The best clear cut chances fell to us, both teams made unforced errors - them more than us - and especially for the goals, both defences should be looking at themselves intensely.
I have to say, even though it's been the most encouraging transfer window in recent memory, I still would have preferred to have signed a recognised striker. Some of the missed opportunities might have been converted.....but tbh it's great we are constructing them from open play.
My m o m was Hare for his constant menace with mostly very decent crosses into the box....I would have preferred him get tighter to his opponent in defence to prevent crosses into our box, but his holistic play, effort, tempo and engine was worthy of mention.
Really liked Baldwin contribution today. Some great blocks and physical defending was important.
Not so much so for Ehmer, I'm still left wondering....but as we can't actually see in live time, it's difficult to formulate if his inclusion is warranted (?).
Ok, Burton didn't play as poorly as Northampton previously, I thought they defended well and relied in their (occasionally) well constructed set pieces for breaks through (I still think we allow too much space in the box with poor marking....I counted 10 blue and white players in our box for the conceded goal(?)) , but what they did best was capitalise on their period of being on the front foot, whereas we didn't convert our chances. If wanted to be cruel, you could argue first two BG subs actually helped Burton as they scored very soon after! But I think that observation is harsh and not valid for that match..
Much like our Sunderland away, the away team will be happier with a draw because if it was a boxing match, the home team would have been clear winners.
So, for me, both matches cancel themselves out for me...one a draw to them, one a draw to us...
An entertaining game and it keeps our unbeaten run intact....well done BG and players for going for the win and coming out unlucky this time.
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 18, 2020 7:49:51 GMT
We should have kept the ball better at 1-0, a big opportunity to pick up 3 points today, but for 60 mins then the last 10 I thought we played well.
Disappointed not to win and I am happier we are now at this stage with this team, 2 defeats in the last 7.
I will be happy with at least 2 pts from the next 2 games.
Hare was excellent. Nice to see we have 2 capable strikers and nice to see the same 11 started again.
We should have exploited tool more after his booking.
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 18, 2020 7:50:19 GMT
Kinda just got back. I thought we played well and were unlucky not to take all three points. The best clear cut chances fell to us, both teams made unforced errors - them more than us - and especially for the goals, both defences should be looking at themselves intensely. I have to say, even though it's been the most encouraging transfer window in recent memory, I still would have preferred to have signed a recognised striker. Some of the missed opportunities might have been converted.....but tbh it's great we are constructing them from open play. My m o m was Hare for his constant menace with mostly very decent crosses into the box....I would have preferred him get tighter to his opponent in defence to prevent crosses into our box, but his holistic play, effort, tempo and engine was worthy of mention. Really liked Baldwin contribution today. Some great blocks and physical defending was important. Not so much so for Ehmer, I'm still left wondering....but as we can't actually see in live time, it's difficult to formulate if his inclusion is warranted (?). Ok, Burton didn't play as poorly as Northampton previously, I thought they defended well and relied in their (occasionally) well constructed set pieces for breaks through (I still think we allow too much space in the box with poor marking....I counted 10 blue and white players in our box for the conceded goal(?)) , but what they did best was capitalise on their period of being on the front foot, whereas we didn't convert our chances. If wanted to be cruel, you could argue first two BG subs actually helped Burton as they scored very soon after! But I think that observation is harsh and not valid for that match.. Much like our Sunderland away, the away team will be happier with a draw because if it was a boxing match, the home team would have been clear winners. So, for me, both matches cancel themselves out for me...one a draw to them, one a draw to us... An entertaining game and it keeps our unbeaten run intact....well done BG and players for going for the win and coming out unlucky this time. Hooray, just got back
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Post by billyocean on Oct 18, 2020 8:09:10 GMT
BG has got skinny little legs No surprise a duck liked this comment. Always good to read the contrasting views on the game when I don't get to see it so thanks all for the contributions. UTG!
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Post by basel on Oct 18, 2020 8:19:26 GMT
Happy to see we are not so easily beaten.That's improvement.
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 18, 2020 8:23:09 GMT
1-1 FT Reality check Didn't press home the advantage when we had it 2 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses Also, if memory serves, palindromic results
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Post by laughinggas on Oct 18, 2020 8:41:05 GMT
1-1 FT Reality check Didn't press home the advantage when we had it 2 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses Also, if memory serves, palindromic results And 12th in the table, mid table!
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Post by toteend3 on Oct 18, 2020 8:47:41 GMT
Kinda just got back. I thought we played well and were unlucky not to take all three points. The best clear cut chances fell to us, both teams made unforced errors - them more than us - and especially for the goals, both defences should be looking at themselves intensely. I have to say, even though it's been the most encouraging transfer window in recent memory, I still would have preferred to have signed a recognised striker. Some of the missed opportunities might have been converted.....but tbh it's great we are constructing them from open play. My m o m was Hare for his constant menace with mostly very decent crosses into the box....I would have preferred him get tighter to his opponent in defence to prevent crosses into our box, but his holistic play, effort, tempo and engine was worthy of mention. Really liked Baldwin contribution today. Some great blocks and physical defending was important. Not so much so for Ehmer, I'm still left wondering....but as we can't actually see in live time, it's difficult to formulate if his inclusion is warranted (?). Ok, Burton didn't play as poorly as Northampton previously, I thought they defended well and relied in their (occasionally) well constructed set pieces for breaks through (I still think we allow too much space in the box with poor marking....I counted 10 blue and white players in our box for the conceded goal(?)) , but what they did best was capitalise on their period of being on the front foot, whereas we didn't convert our chances. If wanted to be cruel, you could argue first two BG subs actually helped Burton as they scored very soon after! But I think that observation is harsh and not valid for that match.. Much like our Sunderland away, the away team will be happier with a draw because if it was a boxing match, the home team would have been clear winners. So, for me, both matches cancel themselves out for me...one a draw to them, one a draw to us... An entertaining game and it keeps our unbeaten run intact....well done BG and players for going for the win and coming out unlucky this time. And we'll done you! We are nearly on the same page now!
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 18, 2020 8:49:28 GMT
Oh dear. I'm trying to work out if that's a good thing?
As in the last page read of 1984 by GO...
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Post by Igitur on Oct 18, 2020 10:11:26 GMT
No arguing last season under BG was appalling. But we practically have a new side and teams whether in an office, factory or football need time to get to their best. Back threes (or fours), midfield element and forwards have to get to understand each other and then interlock. We must not forget that Burton has had more coaching, certainly in fouling. Undoubtedly BG got some things wrong by allowing Burton into the game and poor substitutions.
Garnerball can not be difficult to learn, Oztumer turns up and is on the pitch a couple days later, that substitution smacked more of naïve desperation.
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Post by 1883 on Oct 18, 2020 10:58:59 GMT
Garnerball can not be difficult to learn, Oztumer turns up and is on the pitch a couple days later. That’s because ‘Garnerball’ makes it sound like some mythical system or style of play that’s attempting to revolutionise the way the game is played. Where as in reality it’s just a team of more technically proficient players than last season trying to hoof it a bit less.
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Post by toteend3 on Oct 18, 2020 12:25:04 GMT
Oh dear. I'm trying to work out if that's a good thing? As in the last page read of 1984 by GO... Mar 3, 2020 22:02:38 GMT 1 toteend4 said I gave him enough rope I was wrong I doubt he could build a sandcastle UTFG/STB It's a football forum and its all about opinions and I have backed BG throughout his tenure, one exception was back to to early March. However we are now into a new season with arguably a vastly improved squad and I have stuck my neck out backed him to do us proud.. As you will recall i got pi##ed off with the continued negative comments towards BG and I lost it by my 'shut the f##k up' rant. So I would say it's a good thing, every now and again, when we come together with similar views and as George (Elliot) commmented and I quote 'What do we live for if it is not to make life less difficult for each other' which under the current circumstances is more important than ever! UTG
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 18, 2020 16:43:13 GMT
Oh dear. I'm trying to work out if that's a good thing? As in the last page read of 1984 by GO... I have backed BG throughout his tenure, one exception was back to to early March. However we are now into a new season with arguably a vastly improved squad and I have stuck my neck out backed him to do us proud.. UTG My GasHead friend, I tried to keep the UTG in as totally agree with that. We want the same things. Also have aligned with vastly improved squad, backing tenure up until March, and new season.... but where we differ is, I have stuck my neck out backed him not to do us proud. I think BG management approach is questionable.. I'm sorry if this has offended you (or others, because you're all Gas) enough to propose your rant, but like you say this is a forum and we are all within the profound George quotes.... and it's based on what I think I've seen with my own eyes spending my own money and time....as much as valid as anyone in similar place. We are still some way apart, but if our alignment is as close as it has been since March, and we are still diametrically opposed, then that's worth celebrating! Excellent news! ....I hope one day we will be completely aligned, on same page, and I hope it will be your page, but at this moment I'm far from convinced. There's too many variables . Lovely to quote yourself, btw, that takes courage. Fair play. As ever time will tell, but I think it's an encouraging last 3 games in performance and results.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 18, 2020 17:33:56 GMT
I thought the substitutions were a bit negative. Upson is sideways, backwards..... Anyway, with the assistance of copious amounts of Blackthorn Reserve, I'm still in a good mood. 7 points from the last 3 games. Upwards and onwards. I thought (being harsh) BG first two subs got it wrong.....we conceded soon after, BG appears to consistently make 69 mean minute sub. Absolutely agree with the 7 point observation and because we went for it and was unlucky, happy to take a point so credit where it's due..
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