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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 20:26:47 GMT
What wael/garner and widdrington are trying to do is build a young team with a few experienced players. That is all there is to it. If garner fails somebody else will come in and try and make the strategy work. True.They're looking poor at the moment because WAQ judgement in hiring BG - a bloody awful manager -looks naive. I suppose Rovers are trying to do something like Crewe Alex successfully achieved with Dario Gradi. The sooner we get a new manager the better. When wael bought the club this project was always on his mind but the success of DC followed by coughlan winning games as a caretaker prevented him from getting it going. In my view garner has tried to change too much too quickly. Someone like mark robbins as an example would have bought into the project but gradually changed the style and players in a more cautious way.
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Sept 29, 2020 20:28:13 GMT
six points or more from those games and you will run stark naked down Gloucester Rd with a sausage up your arse? look, he is going to be here for at least those four games, I’m not convinced he’ll get the six points, though we might as well skulk around this board for something else to argue about for the coming days. 😈 Less than 6 points and you will? In any case how do you know that this is a punishment for me for getting a prediction wrong? For all you know I might like it, or it might be a fairly normal weekend jape. Not sure I'd class either of our posts as arguing - we both clearly have different views which we are expressing and debating. You appear to be able to see what Garnerball is. I can't and think it is a triumph of hope over reality. Yes you are right (I think) that he'll still be in post even if the points return is a big fat zilch, so all we can do is see how this plays out. Let's resurface this in 3 weeks time to see which of us was right.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 0:33:20 GMT
Petulant city fans said lee johnson will keep his job no matter what and stamped their feet like spoilt children. Our fans are exactly the same as theirs these days without a doubt sadly.
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Post by Rex on Sept 30, 2020 6:39:33 GMT
Petulant city fans said lee johnson will keep his job no matter what and stamped their feet like spoilt children. Our fans are exactly the same as theirs these days without a doubt sadly. I think football fans are the same the world over, some are loud and stamp their feet, others don't. I think Lee Johnson kept his job because there was a provable improvement season on season, when it became apparent that he would not improve on their league position last season, he lost his job.
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Post by basel on Sept 30, 2020 7:00:39 GMT
True.They're looking poor at the moment because WAQ judgement in hiring BG - a bloody awful manager -looks naive. I suppose Rovers are trying to do something like Crewe Alex successfully achieved with Dario Gradi. The sooner we get a new manager the better. When wael bought the club this project was always on his mind but the success of DC followed by coughlan winning games as a caretaker prevented him from getting it going. In my view garner has tried to change too much too quickly. Someone like mark robbins as an example would have bought into the project but gradually changed the style and players in a more cautious way. Interesting theory Vertigo. It perhaps backs up my own theory,that a promotion challenge was sacrificed by El Presidente Wael,for his - and those that backed him- ,'passing game' revolution.A massive mistake.The timing could not of been worse and the new Manager turned out to be a flop.A sorry episode in the Rovers story.Right up there with our other disasters.I think it the most stupid thing this club has probably ever done. Mark Robin's eg is a football manager and therefore he would of been better than BG.
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Post by TaiwanGas on Sept 30, 2020 9:42:23 GMT
Part of the vision belonging to Wael & BG is to build a team around, and develop our own young talent as assets. This Saturday we are going to start against Northampton with two young Loanee's in the side......Mmmmm.
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Post by laughinggas on Sept 30, 2020 9:54:24 GMT
Part of the vision belonging to Wael & BG is to build a team around, and develop our own young talent as assets. This Saturday we are going to start against Northampton with two young Loanee's in the side......Mmmmm. We don't know if we have a buy option at end of season for either of them. No idea either on the impact on our salary cap total.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 10:14:56 GMT
I think that is nonsense Swiss TBH. I think it may be factually incorrect, too, as I think you will find GC was appointed in the January, or around about that time? We needed saving from relegation, the supporters didnt want to hear of a long term vision at that time be it changed or not, we just needed to believe we would survive. GC did a bloody good job in that respect, so I would say that Wael did a bloody good job in that appointment too. Considering the strategy, are you challenging its validity? Would you say that, in our current position of having a ground with such limited income generation there is a better one? I know you know this, but you know that we cannot budget based on what income we generate because we will not be competitive. At the Mem that would mean a salary budget equivilant of Conf South. So we have to find another way to be competitive. So, a strategy of maximising income (where we can, and Tom does a bloody good job at that it looks to me) Try and develop young, saleable assets, both in the first team and in the academy. Have clearly defined salary structure for the playing staff Have a specific recruitment plan linked to the above & maximise contract value. No more expensive journeymen Develop an identity & playing/coaching philosophy throughout the whole club. Not miles different to that over at Ashton Gate I believe, only the numbers are hugely different and Lansdown took a few years and a few £ millions to hit on it. All sounds good to me. Our First Team Manager not working out yet though. If no improvement, First Team Manager changes, but strategy remains the same. Wael is doing a decent job given the constraints as I believe is Starnes and Gorringe. Don't know enough about Karim but no reason to doubt his attributes. Appointing Managers is fraught with difficulty. Were you still involved in the club when Martin Dobson was appointed? Sounded a good appointment at the time, was worth a go. It was a disaster as we know. Could end up being the same with BG if things don't turn round sharpish, doesn't mean the strategy is flawed, just the personnel. Yes, you are right, Graham Coughlan was appointed in January, but it doesn't invalidate the point about his vision being diametrically opposed to Wael's. And what you say tends to confirm that the "vision" strategy is brought in and out as required. But it is appreciated that you have taken the time to expand on ampg's list of what you think the "vision" is. The problem for me is that this "vision" is nothing new and is what every football club, including Rovers, has always sought to do. All clubs try to maximise income but, as we touched on previously, the problem is that we can only go on a gut feeling that Rovers net income is being maximized because no one has given us numbers. We haven't developed and sold any young assets for the past four years so I guess that part started in December 2019 ? The clearly defined salary structure and "no more expensive journeyman" is frequently wafted in the air but how do Ehmer and Baldwin fit into that ? I suppose the answer is, as it always is, that we must sometimes break the golden rule to bring in a bit of experience which effectively means we continue to go round and round in circles. Developing a playing and coaching philosophy throughout the club so that managers can come and go without disruption to the playing style is something which sounds good, we don't know if it will work, but I agree that this an inexpensive strategy which is worth a try. And apart from supplying money how is Wael doing a good job ? We don't hear much from him and the accounts and league table tell a much different story. There is nothing novel or innovative about the "vision" or "strategy" it is merely copying what other clubs, including Rovers, have always done. But it serves the purpose of diverting fans attention away from the failure and gives us a "get out clause". We have the comfort of knowing that the players, managers, coaches and backroom staff may all fail, we may even get relegated, but our owners "vision" remains constant and so long as he has cash to put into Rovers there may come a time in the future when we shall enjoy success. I am challenging the strategy, for me the only viable strategy the club can adopt is to actively seek outside investment and expertise with the aim of securing a new stadium for Rovers before it is too late. I think this is probably what is happening TBH, ie external investment being sought for new stadium. But Swiss, that is long term isnt it. Something could be announced now but would be 2-3 years away minimum. So what would be your strategy in the short - medium term? You also suggest what the club is doing is 'what every club does'. I would suggest that is not the case. Plenty of clubs look for experienced players, and don't focus on potential re-sale value (even if the chances at our level of that are not high) and plenty of clubs have lost decent players on a free on contract expiry. We have had plenty of occasions with a lot of contracts expiring at the same time. That can be flawed and can require regular re building. We also know we lost Lockyer, Taylor and Bodin for peanuts, so need to recognisee the plan to maximise contract value is an improvement. Plenty of clubs do not invest in an academy, some at our level don't even have an academy. We are making a go of it. Certainly when it comes to maximising income Rovers don't have a great track record. Christ, Boycey use to undertake the commercial role himself, cant recall us having an experienced or dynamic marketing approach until now. Ian Holtby used to do it, and he was Stadium manager. He did his best, but he had huge constraints and we ended up with a lucky dip shirt sponsor. We did not make use of our brand or the quarters, the Pirates brand, Heritage, whatever. We were always missing a trick as we didn't invest. So the constant knocking of Wael is flawed, recognise the challenges by all means but also acknowledge the progress made of moving away from being run like corner shop which we have been for decades. That brought cosy arrangements with the likes of the Supporters Club and Presidents Club but it is history and had to be done to progress into the real world. The Training Ground is a massive step forward. I'm sure you will challenge 'who owns it'. But it doesn't matter - Who owns Ashton Gate and their new training Ground? Is it 'Bristol City FC', 'Ashton Gate Holdings' or whatever?? It doesn't matter. I ask again what would your short term/medium strategy be as your post could be interpreted as "find someone who will give us more money"
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 30, 2020 13:41:12 GMT
I think I've posed this question before... but here goes again. Why did we give BG the job with a paper thin CV and no managerial experience (coaching aside)? Is there a personal tie with Wael that goes back to chelski / west London? If I'm wrong - fine. But I just can't see why he was in the frame when GC got the job, and why he was fast-tracked in when GC went post-Ipswich. An away win and Tom Nichols scored. Crikey. One to live long in the memory. It may be that Ben and Wael are two similar personalities with comparable strengths and weaknesses who found an instant affinity when they were brought together. Maybe it's just me. But I would really like to know exactly WHEN that was. I'll plump for when BG was at Palace. Perhaps it was when he was completing the UEFA Pro Licence in 2014, and being mentored by then Chelsea manager José Mourinho (source wiki). Why is the timing of the initial meeting of Wael and BG important? Well because "if" Wael was swayed to appoint BG due to a previous personal relationship, I would conclude we probably didn't get the best qualified person for the post after GC left. If we comprehensively beat Northampton on Saturday, I'm sure this idle speculation will all go away. And so will I. Just for a bit.
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Post by bondigas on Sept 30, 2020 15:51:27 GMT
I think you will find the Garner connection was cemented by Wael's easily flattered ego and easy access on social media allowing Garner to self promote himself. Add a touch of what Vertigo suggests and there you have it, control and influence over a manager who's last job until being shown the door was in Calcutta 7 months before he got the Rovers job. Mother Teresa would have got more wins for us in 23 games, as for the next manager, don't hold your breath, the CEO will go for Derek Adams, Gorringe for Liam Rosenior and Wael for much the same as now, in house with Mansell and Maher to try and save us from relegation. All of them like kids in the playground jostling for some influence over the new manager, the place is a shambles.
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Post by a more piratey game on Sept 30, 2020 16:21:42 GMT
I think you will find the Garner connection was cemented by Wael's easily flattered ego and easy access on social media allowing Garner to self promote himself. as for the next manager, don't hold your breath, the CEO will go for Derek Adams, Gorringe for Liam Rosenior and Wael for much the same as now, in house with Mansell and Maher to try and save us from relegation such specific insights, and achieved from Australia leaves all those anchored in Bristol looking very off-the-pace!
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Post by swissgas on Sept 30, 2020 18:19:29 GMT
Yes, you are right, Graham Coughlan was appointed in January, but it doesn't invalidate the point about his vision being diametrically opposed to Wael's. And what you say tends to confirm that the "vision" strategy is brought in and out as required. But it is appreciated that you have taken the time to expand on ampg's list of what you think the "vision" is. The problem for me is that this "vision" is nothing new and is what every football club, including Rovers, has always sought to do. All clubs try to maximise income but, as we touched on previously, the problem is that we can only go on a gut feeling that Rovers net income is being maximized because no one has given us numbers. We haven't developed and sold any young assets for the past four years so I guess that part started in December 2019 ? The clearly defined salary structure and "no more expensive journeyman" is frequently wafted in the air but how do Ehmer and Baldwin fit into that ? I suppose the answer is, as it always is, that we must sometimes break the golden rule to bring in a bit of experience which effectively means we continue to go round and round in circles. Developing a playing and coaching philosophy throughout the club so that managers can come and go without disruption to the playing style is something which sounds good, we don't know if it will work, but I agree that this an inexpensive strategy which is worth a try. And apart from supplying money how is Wael doing a good job ? We don't hear much from him and the accounts and league table tell a much different story. There is nothing novel or innovative about the "vision" or "strategy" it is merely copying what other clubs, including Rovers, have always done. But it serves the purpose of diverting fans attention away from the failure and gives us a "get out clause". We have the comfort of knowing that the players, managers, coaches and backroom staff may all fail, we may even get relegated, but our owners "vision" remains constant and so long as he has cash to put into Rovers there may come a time in the future when we shall enjoy success. I am challenging the strategy, for me the only viable strategy the club can adopt is to actively seek outside investment and expertise with the aim of securing a new stadium for Rovers before it is too late. I think this is probably what is happening TBH, ie external investment being sought for new stadium. But Swiss, that is long term isnt it. Something could be announced now but would be 2-3 years away minimum. So what would be your strategy in the short - medium term? You also suggest what the club is doing is 'what every club does'. I would suggest that is not the case. Plenty of clubs look for experienced players, and don't focus on potential re-sale value (even if the chances at our level of that are not high) and plenty of clubs have lost decent players on a free on contract expiry. We have had plenty of occasions with a lot of contracts expiring at the same time. That can be flawed and can require regular re building. We also know we lost Lockyer, Taylor and Bodin for peanuts, so need to recognisee the plan to maximise contract value is an improvement. Plenty of clubs do not invest in an academy, some at our level don't even have an academy. We are making a go of it. Certainly when it comes to maximising income Rovers don't have a great track record. Christ, Boycey use to undertake the commercial role himself, cant recall us having an experienced or dynamic marketing approach until now. Ian Holtby used to do it, and he was Stadium manager. He did his best, but he had huge constraints and we ended up with a lucky dip shirt sponsor. We did not make use of our brand or the quarters, the Pirates brand, Heritage, whatever. We were always missing a trick as we didn't invest. So the constant knocking of Wael is flawed, recognise the challenges by all means but also acknowledge the progress made of moving away from being run like corner shop which we have been for decades. That brought cosy arrangements with the likes of the Supporters Club and Presidents Club but it is history and had to be done to progress into the real world. The Training Ground is a massive step forward. I'm sure you will challenge 'who owns it'. But it doesn't matter - Who owns Ashton Gate and their new training Ground? Is it 'Bristol City FC', 'Ashton Gate Holdings' or whatever?? It doesn't matter. I ask again what would your short term/medium strategy be as your post could be interpreted as "find someone who will give us more money" My short term strategy would start tomorrow by getting in touch with a few advisory firms such as Deloitte and BDO, tell them our current trading and balance sheet position, explain that we need a new stadium, explain that we (as the owner) are able to subsidise the club to a maximum amount of £ X per annum and ask them how they would go about coming up with an outline plan for achieving the goal of controlled sustainability. Depending on the outcome of this exercise then choose the advisory firm to go forward with, committing a large sum of money for their work, and after say a six month period end up with a comprehensive business plan which, together with their help, can be marketed to potential investors worldwide. My constant (I hope) constructive criticism is not flawed because the corner shop only lost about £ 1 million pa and if it had not been for the Sainsbury fiasco our then owners would have been willing and able to cover that even if it meant progress was limited. But now, in the brave new world which you may see but I can't, the club is losing upwards of £ 3 million pa while the team is nosediving and it is inconceivable that Wael has the financial resources to keep pumping money in at this rate Ad infinitum.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 21:00:49 GMT
I think this is probably what is happening TBH, ie external investment being sought for new stadium. But Swiss, that is long term isnt it. Something could be announced now but would be 2-3 years away minimum. So what would be your strategy in the short - medium term? You also suggest what the club is doing is 'what every club does'. I would suggest that is not the case. Plenty of clubs look for experienced players, and don't focus on potential re-sale value (even if the chances at our level of that are not high) and plenty of clubs have lost decent players on a free on contract expiry. We have had plenty of occasions with a lot of contracts expiring at the same time. That can be flawed and can require regular re building. We also know we lost Lockyer, Taylor and Bodin for peanuts, so need to recognisee the plan to maximise contract value is an improvement. Plenty of clubs do not invest in an academy, some at our level don't even have an academy. We are making a go of it. Certainly when it comes to maximising income Rovers don't have a great track record. Christ, Boycey use to undertake the commercial role himself, cant recall us having an experienced or dynamic marketing approach until now. Ian Holtby used to do it, and he was Stadium manager. He did his best, but he had huge constraints and we ended up with a lucky dip shirt sponsor. We did not make use of our brand or the quarters, the Pirates brand, Heritage, whatever. We were always missing a trick as we didn't invest. So the constant knocking of Wael is flawed, recognise the challenges by all means but also acknowledge the progress made of moving away from being run like corner shop which we have been for decades. That brought cosy arrangements with the likes of the Supporters Club and Presidents Club but it is history and had to be done to progress into the real world. The Training Ground is a massive step forward. I'm sure you will challenge 'who owns it'. But it doesn't matter - Who owns Ashton Gate and their new training Ground? Is it 'Bristol City FC', 'Ashton Gate Holdings' or whatever?? It doesn't matter. I ask again what would your short term/medium strategy be as your post could be interpreted as "find someone who will give us more money" My short term strategy would start tomorrow by getting in touch with a few advisory firms such as Deloitte and BDO, tell them our current trading and balance sheet position, explain that we need a new stadium, explain that we (as the owner) are able to subsidise the club to a maximum amount of £ X per annum and ask them how they would go about coming up with an outline plan for achieving the goal of controlled sustainability. Depending on the outcome of this exercise then choose the advisory firm to go forward with, committing a large sum of money for their work, and after say a six month period end up with a comprehensive business plan which, together with their help, can be marketed to potential investors worldwide. My constant (I hope) constructive criticism is not flawed because the corner shop only lost about £ 1 million pa and if it had not been for the Sainsbury fiasco our then owners would have been willing and able to cover that even if it meant progress was limited. But now, in the brave new world which you may see but I can't, the club is losing upwards of £ 3 million pa while the team is nosediving and it is inconceivable that Wael has the financial resources to keep pumping money in at this rate Ad infinitum. Is that it then? All this constant criticism and the only thing you are offering as an alternative is to get some consultants in to tell us what to do. What would your operational plan be in the short term? What about the marketing, the players contract strategy, funding of the academy. What about investment in the matchday experience, eg to try and encourage young children? Or investment in Social media presence? Etc etc Perhaps you are encouraging downsizing. Perhaps to cut the academy. Maybe put up the matchday prices. Maybe reduce the commercial side, get rid of Gorringe, save a few quid there and hand back to the Supporters Club to sell a few things? Back to the Future (now wouldn't that be funny, and perhaps the Presidents club would suddenly get a couple more members too). You don't say anything. Constant criticism, (and being constructive is fine) but this doesn't seem to be constructive at all nothing else is being offered. But lets have a go at WAQ anyway. BG may end up (is more likely) a disaster and yes WAQ will be part of that decision. But considering your regular critique of WAQ I was expecting more Swiss, far more.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 30, 2020 21:09:43 GMT
Wow, lots of “conspiracy” theories. Whilst I don’t know enough to disagree with any certainty but just to add a slightly different opinion to it: If we had held on during the last 10 minutes at Sunderland for a win and if Max E hadn’t scored that avoidable o.g. against Ipswich then it would have been a very different mood. I know we didn’t but for 80 minutes of those matches we had stopped them scoring. In the end those “ifs” didn’t happen so we’ve got what we’ve got, one point and I guess a very unhappy fan base. No way am I defending BG but I think it shows the narrow margins you get in football at times. BG gets no leeway because of his awful record which tends to make us have little confidence that he has the ability to turn it around. And there is no defence for the second half display on Saturday at Doncaster. UTG!
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Post by swissgas on Sept 30, 2020 21:21:06 GMT
My short term strategy would start tomorrow by getting in touch with a few advisory firms such as Deloitte and BDO, tell them our current trading and balance sheet position, explain that we need a new stadium, explain that we (as the owner) are able to subsidise the club to a maximum amount of £ X per annum and ask them how they would go about coming up with an outline plan for achieving the goal of controlled sustainability. Depending on the outcome of this exercise then choose the advisory firm to go forward with, committing a large sum of money for their work, and after say a six month period end up with a comprehensive business plan which, together with their help, can be marketed to potential investors worldwide. My constant (I hope) constructive criticism is not flawed because the corner shop only lost about £ 1 million pa and if it had not been for the Sainsbury fiasco our then owners would have been willing and able to cover that even if it meant progress was limited. But now, in the brave new world which you may see but I can't, the club is losing upwards of £ 3 million pa while the team is nosediving and it is inconceivable that Wael has the financial resources to keep pumping money in at this rate Ad infinitum. Is that it then? All this constant criticism and the only thing you are offering as an alternative is to get some consultants in to tell us what to do. What would your operational plan be in the short term? What about the marketing, the players contract strategy, funding of the academy. What about investment in the matchday experience, eg to try and encourage young children? Or investment in Social media presence? Etc etc Perhaps you are encouraging downsizing. Perhaps to cut the academy. Maybe put up the matchday prices. Maybe reduce the commercial side, get rid of Gorringe, save a few quid there and hand back to the Supporters Club to sell a few things? Back to the Future (now wouldn't that be funny, and perhaps the Presidents club would suddenly get a couple more members too). You don't say anything. Constant criticism, (and being constructive is fine) but this doesn't seem to be constructive at all nothing else is being offered. But lets have a go at WAQ anyway. BG may end up (is more likely) a disaster and yes WAQ will be part of that decision. But considering your regular critique of WAQ I was expecting more Swiss, far more. My next calls would be to the contractors charged with construction of the buildings at Almondsbury and to the management of the Coombe Dingle Sports Complex. Are you sure you want me to go on ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 21:35:58 GMT
Okay, I would like to know your concerns regarding 'construction of the buildings at Almondsbury', and what is 'Coombe Dingle Sports Complex'?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 22:03:45 GMT
Petulant city fans said lee johnson will keep his job no matter what and stamped their feet like spoilt children. Our fans are exactly the same as theirs these days without a doubt sadly. I think football fans are the same the world over, some are loud and stamp their feet, others don't. I think Lee Johnson kept his job because there was a provable improvement season on season, when it became apparent that he would not improve on their league position last season, he lost his job. I was going to say that Garner will struggle to beat last season’s final league position but then it occurred to me that, as of this time of writing, he’ll probably struggle to beat his two wins from last season.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 22:12:02 GMT
When wael bought the club this project was always on his mind but the success of DC followed by coughlan winning games as a caretaker prevented him from getting it going. In my view garner has tried to change too much too quickly. Someone like mark robbins as an example would have bought into the project but gradually changed the style and players in a more cautious way. Interesting theory Vertigo. It perhaps backs up my own theory,that a promotion challenge was sacrificed by El Presidente Wael,for his - and those that backed him- ,'passing game' revolution.A massive mistake.The timing could not of been worse and the new Manager turned out to be a flop.A sorry episode in the Rovers story.Right up there with our other disasters.I think it the most stupid thing this club has probably ever done. Mark Robin's eg is a football manager and therefore he would of been better than BG. “The most stupid thing this club has ever done”. Absolutely spot on. It looked like a total car crash when my mate gave me the news but even I never imagined he would have won only two games AND still been in a job almost a year later. Looking back it’s almost unfathomable how someone with no managerial experience was given the reigns of a side ticking over nicely in the 3rd tier. It’s possibly the most Bristol Rovers thing Bristol Rovers have ever done. Wael either didn’t want promotion or bottled it. In my lifetime supporting Rovers we’ve only ever been serious promotion candidates from this division in the mid to late 90’s that’s how rare these opportunities crop up. And it was pissed away. And true to form this season already seems a write off so the wait to see Rovers in the 2nd tier in my lifetime goes on and will likely go on for a long while yet. Rank amateur stuff from a club that just can’t shake off how tin pot it is.
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Post by swissgas on Sept 30, 2020 22:38:54 GMT
Okay, I would like to know your concerns regarding 'construction of the buildings at Almondsbury', and what is 'Coombe Dingle Sports Complex'? The construction of the club house, gymnasium and associated infrastructure will take a very large amount of cash. But on the face of it the end result will be an inferior training facility to that we have now at the Coombe Dingle Sports Complex. And the annual cost of running the Almondsbury Training Centre will be at least double what was paid in rent at Cribbs and probably a lot more than we would pay at Coombe Dingle for superior indoor, outdoor and all weather facilities. I think that cash, which may be in excess of a million, would be better spent on a making sure the business can pay its way and in restructuring to ensure we have a competitive football team. It’s probably too late now but I would still make the calls. Please be gentle with Mr Unpopular !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 23:02:17 GMT
Swiss.
The person making those commercial decisions is now on the BoD.
What can possibly go wrong.
I despair, honestly.
But this feeds in to the point made about characters and personalities.
Gorringe / Garner, peas in a pod.
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