harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Sept 16, 2020 16:58:20 GMT
A serious question any senior citizens who are thinking of not returning to watch the Gas once crowds are allowed back in ?
In fact are there any fans of any age who now are hooked on ifollow and prefer to watch from the comfort of their own home ?
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Post by matealotblue on Sept 16, 2020 17:03:33 GMT
A serious question any senior citizens who are thinking of not returning to watch the Gas once crowds are allowed back in ? In fact are there any fans of any age who now are hooked on ifollow and prefer to watch from the comfort of their own home ? Personally, I think it’s not even a question we will have to worry about as I can’t see anyone being allowed into any football match any time soon. Where that leaves this, or any other club, is a question I’m not sure we can answer.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 17:03:54 GMT
With how people seem to be incapable of standing still at matches, always shuffling around and touching, with how recklessly people in general are behaving with regard to this virus, I honestly have no idea if / when I would feel safe going to a football ground again.
Today's positive test total 4000. Too many people just seem to think that this either isn't real or doesn't / can't affect them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 17:18:35 GMT
I would go back with restrictions on capacity and mask wearing as compulsory.
However that requires a level of stewarding which means more than warm bodies standing, but completely ineffectual, around but meeting previous H&S safety requirements.
I can't help feeling that if we want crowds back the responsibility lies with us.
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irishrover
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Post by irishrover on Sept 16, 2020 18:24:08 GMT
The bottom line is that the social media revolution has made forums a dying format. When I first started using them in the early 2000s that was what everyone did if they wanted to chat online with other Gasheads. But now it all looks a bit pedestrian I suppose compared to the pace of constant Gas related babble on Twitter and Facebook. So we're basically using the internet-era equivalent of a fax machine at this point. It is also indicative of the kind of s**t in-betweeny technology that 'my generation' fell for.
Pity my generation - we're not millenials with their internet native ways, but we also lack the previous generation's self-satisfaction in their own authenticity. We are the people who thought we would get top jobs in the technology sector because we were the only person in the family who knew how to code Video+ on the recorder (yes that was a thing and you can tell someone my age because they are the only people who can still remember it), make long play work and could set-up the answer machine (on a landline). Plus our parents thought we were geniuses because we knew how Windows 3.1 worked and could connect it to a Modem. Then social media/apple/smartphones happened and it turned out that all the technology that we thought we'd nailed was, in reality, total crap.
We can't even look back wistfully at some authentic stylish era of record players etc. because everyone can see that the technology and media we used was s**t and simply a gateway to stuff that was much better. We are generation Video+, generation Filo-Fax, generation Tamagotchi, generation Discman, generation dial-up, generation MS-DOS. We're seen as naff by millenials but as indolent as millenials by older generations. No one gives us sympathy. We don't even have a name - 'Generation oh they were sort of here too for a little bit'. Oh and our cultural contribution was utterly neglible. No one will remember us or mourn our passing. There will be no 'I remember...' type shows about us. The best we manage is when every now and then someone goes through a garage and notices a massive Viglen computer monitor that they have never been arsed to take to the dump because it would be too much of a faff to lug it to the car and they think 'oh yes I remember using that - it used to blink out all the time. So glad they're better now.' That's about as good as it's ever going to get for us.
So, yes, internet forums- probably the ultimate metaphor for my generation.
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Post by a more piratey game on Sept 16, 2020 18:30:18 GMT
The bottom line is that the social media revolution has made forums a dying format. When I first started using them in the early 2000s that was what everyone did if they wanted to chat online with other Gasheads. But now it all looks a bit pedestrian I suppose compared to the pace of constant Gas related babble on Twitter and Facebook. So we're basically using the internet-era equivalent of a fax machine at this point. It is also indicative of the kind of s*** in-betweeny technology that 'my generation' fell for.
Pity my generation - we're not millenials with their internet native ways, but we also lack the previous generation's self-satisfaction in their own authenticity. We are the people who thought we would get top jobs in the technology sector because we were the only person in the family who knew how to code Video+ on the recorder (yes that was a thing and you can tell someone my age because they are the only people who can still remember it), make long play work and could set-up the answer machine (on a landline). Plus our parents thought we were geniuses because we knew how Windows 3.1 worked and could connect it to a Modem. Then social media/apple/smartphones happened and it turned out that all the technology that we thought we'd nailed was, in reality, total crap.
We can't even look back wistfully at some authentic stylish era of record players etc. because everyone can see that the technology and media we used was s*** and simply a gateway to stuff that was much better. We are generation Video+, generation Filo-Fax, generation Tamagotchi, generation Discman, generation dial-up, generation MS-DOS. We're seen as naff by millenials but as indolent as millenials by older generations. No one gives us sympathy. We don't even have a name - 'Generation oh they were sort of here too for a little bit'. Oh and our cultural contribution was utterly neglible. No one will remember us or mourn our passing. There will be no 'I remember...' type shows about us. The best we manage is when every now and then someone goes through a garage and notices a massive Viglen computer monitor that they have never been arsed to take to the dump because it would be too much of a faff to lug it to the car and they think 'oh yes I remember using that - it used to blink out all the time. So glad they're better now.' That's about as good as it's ever going to get for us.
So, yes, internet forums- probably the ultimate metaphor for my generation.
blimey. I bet you're a right hoot in the pub on a Friday night...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 18:37:16 GMT
The bottom line is that the social media revolution has made forums a dying format. When I first started using them in the early 2000s that was what everyone did if they wanted to chat online with other Gasheads. But now it all looks a bit pedestrian I suppose compared to the pace of constant Gas related babble on Twitter and Facebook. So we're basically using the internet-era equivalent of a fax machine at this point. It is also indicative of the kind of s*** in-betweeny technology that 'my generation' fell for.
Pity my generation - we're not millenials with their internet native ways, but we also lack the previous generation's self-satisfaction in their own authenticity. We are the people who thought we would get top jobs in the technology sector because we were the only person in the family who knew how to code Video+ on the recorder (yes that was a thing and you can tell someone my age because they are the only people who can still remember it), make long play work and could set-up the answer machine (on a landline). Plus our parents thought we were geniuses because we knew how Windows 3.1 worked and could connect it to a Modem. Then social media/apple/smartphones happened and it turned out that all the technology that we thought we'd nailed was, in reality, total crap.
We can't even look back wistfully at some authentic stylish era of record players etc. because everyone can see that the technology and media we used was s*** and simply a gateway to stuff that was much better. We are generation Video+, generation Filo-Fax, generation Tamagotchi, generation Discman, generation dial-up, generation MS-DOS. We're seen as naff by millenials but as indolent as millenials by older generations. No one gives us sympathy. We don't even have a name - 'Generation oh they were sort of here too for a little bit'. Oh and our cultural contribution was utterly neglible. No one will remember us or mourn our passing. There will be no 'I remember...' type shows about us. The best we manage is when every now and then someone goes through a garage and notices a massive Viglen computer monitor that they have never been arsed to take to the dump because it would be too much of a faff to lug it to the car and they think 'oh yes I remember using that - it used to blink out all the time. So glad they're better now.' That's about as good as it's ever going to get for us.
So, yes, internet forums- probably the ultimate metaphor for my generation.
It's true You guys have no authenticity at all. But It's your fault, you sat on the fence.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 19:26:45 GMT
The bottom line is that the social media revolution has made forums a dying format. That's an insightful and very well thought-through argument. I could not disagree more. There's a small but growing movement away from and positively against social media and all its poison. A whole generation don't use messageboard forums; you're right. Not yet. When they're older and wiser and off social media, though, they might. On poison, the last seven days haven't been Gas Guzzler at its absolute finest, but it remains far more intellectually honest and interesting than all social media, for all the latter's speed and volume. I outgrew vodka and Red Bull in 1999, and the youth of today will someday outgrow social media. Or we're truly doomed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 19:51:22 GMT
The bottom line is that the social media revolution has made forums a dying format. That's an insightful and very well thought-through argument. I could not disagree more. There's a small but growing movement away from and positively against social media and all its poison. A whole generation don't use messageboard forums; you're right. Not yet. When they're older and wiser and off social media, though, they might. On poison, the last seven days haven't been Gas Guzzler at its absolute finest, but it remains far for intellectually honest and interesting than all social media, for all its speed and volume. I outgrew vodka and Red Bull in 1999, and the youth of today will someday outgrow social media. Or we're truly doomed. Very interesting. I use social media, but not as a source for evidence that informs my opinion. More as a pointer, to listen to other viewpoints, but in the full knowledge ( you could say my personal opinion) that those viewpoints are in general completely unfounded. For me the world is not that difficult, 1+1=2 either way you play it and history is a matter of material fact. It's up to the individual to consider this and then express an opinion, fearing not a challenge, if confident of their position. And not blame media if they make an ass of themselves.
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JeffNZ
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Post by JeffNZ on Sept 16, 2020 22:10:13 GMT
Not sure where you got your classifications from Mr Duck but I think I'm relieved that I have a few years to go before I'm classified as elderly.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 16, 2020 22:10:53 GMT
I out -20.. None of anyone's business!
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Post by billyocean on Sept 17, 2020 5:27:34 GMT
Cruel to see 42 chosen as the moment I become "mature adult" and that I remain trapped in the classification for 20 years
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Post by billyocean on Sept 17, 2020 5:33:06 GMT
The bottom line is that the social media revolution has made forums a dying format. When I first started using them in the early 2000s that was what everyone did if they wanted to chat online with other Gasheads. But now it all looks a bit pedestrian I suppose compared to the pace of constant Gas related babble on Twitter and Facebook. So we're basically using the internet-era equivalent of a fax machine at this point. It is also indicative of the kind of s*** in-betweeny technology that 'my generation' fell for.
Pity my generation - we're not millenials with their internet native ways, but we also lack the previous generation's self-satisfaction in their own authenticity. We are the people who thought we would get top jobs in the technology sector because we were the only person in the family who knew how to code Video+ on the recorder (yes that was a thing and you can tell someone my age because they are the only people who can still remember it), make long play work and could set-up the answer machine (on a landline). Plus our parents thought we were geniuses because we knew how Windows 3.1 worked and could connect it to a Modem. Then social media/apple/smartphones happened and it turned out that all the technology that we thought we'd nailed was, in reality, total crap.
We can't even look back wistfully at some authentic stylish era of record players etc. because everyone can see that the technology and media we used was s*** and simply a gateway to stuff that was much better. We are generation Video+, generation Filo-Fax, generation Tamagotchi, generation Discman, generation dial-up, generation MS-DOS. We're seen as naff by millenials but as indolent as millenials by older generations. No one gives us sympathy. We don't even have a name - 'Generation oh they were sort of here too for a little bit'. Oh and our cultural contribution was utterly neglible. No one will remember us or mourn our passing. There will be no 'I remember...' type shows about us. The best we manage is when every now and then someone goes through a garage and notices a massive Viglen computer monitor that they have never been arsed to take to the dump because it would be too much of a faff to lug it to the car and they think 'oh yes I remember using that - it used to blink out all the time. So glad they're better now.' That's about as good as it's ever going to get for us.
So, yes, internet forums- probably the ultimate metaphor for my generation.
I'd like to add MiniDisc early adopters and the realisation you could write protect a VHS video that you have recorded by removing its tab, and latterly remove this protection by inserting some folded paper and holding it in place with sellotape
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Post by mangogas15 on Sept 17, 2020 5:47:44 GMT
The bottom line is that the social media revolution has made forums a dying format. When I first started using them in the early 2000s that was what everyone did if they wanted to chat online with other Gasheads. But now it all looks a bit pedestrian I suppose compared to the pace of constant Gas related babble on Twitter and Facebook. So we're basically using the internet-era equivalent of a fax machine at this point. It is also indicative of the kind of s*** in-betweeny technology that 'my generation' fell for.
Pity my generation - we're not millenials with their internet native ways, but we also lack the previous generation's self-satisfaction in their own authenticity. We are the people who thought we would get top jobs in the technology sector because we were the only person in the family who knew how to code Video+ on the recorder (yes that was a thing and you can tell someone my age because they are the only people who can still remember it), make long play work and could set-up the answer machine (on a landline). Plus our parents thought we were geniuses because we knew how Windows 3.1 worked and could connect it to a Modem. Then social media/apple/smartphones happened and it turned out that all the technology that we thought we'd nailed was, in reality, total crap.
We can't even look back wistfully at some authentic stylish era of record players etc. because everyone can see that the technology and media we used was s*** and simply a gateway to stuff that was much better. We are generation Video+, generation Filo-Fax, generation Tamagotchi, generation Discman, generation dial-up, generation MS-DOS. We're seen as naff by millenials but as indolent as millenials by older generations. No one gives us sympathy. We don't even have a name - 'Generation oh they were sort of here too for a little bit'. Oh and our cultural contribution was utterly neglible. No one will remember us or mourn our passing. There will be no 'I remember...' type shows about us. The best we manage is when every now and then someone goes through a garage and notices a massive Viglen computer monitor that they have never been arsed to take to the dump because it would be too much of a faff to lug it to the car and they think 'oh yes I remember using that - it used to blink out all the time. So glad they're better now.' That's about as good as it's ever going to get for us.
So, yes, internet forums- probably the ultimate metaphor for my generation.
I'd like to add MiniDisc early adopters and the realisation you could write protect a VHS video that you have recorded by removing its tab, and latterly remove this protection by inserting some folded paper and holding it in place with sellotape Good old days
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Post by mangogas15 on Sept 17, 2020 6:00:03 GMT
With how people seem to be incapable of standing still at matches, always shuffling around and touching, with how recklessly people in general are behaving with regard to this virus, I honestly have no idea if / when I would feel safe going to a football ground again. Today's positive test total 4000. Too many people just seem to think that this either isn't real or doesn't / can't affect them. It's tough Bamber. I can't imagine going to the ground again. Yesterday was 6 months since we locked down. I was there on the last game v moaning Sunderland. The first few week of lock down were scary, going to the shops with people treating me like I had the lergy, just to walk past me. The weather has been a god send, it will be more difficult to queue outside places for shopping etc in the winter. People do take the precautions needed seriously but I despair at those who stick their heads in the sand and think it's not really happening, like you say. Football is a product, an event, a privilege actually. If we go, we are paying for it, therefore we have the right to expect a service, but on the terms of the product provider. Like you say, just effing keep still, stay 2 metres from everyone, we might get 3,000 people in the ground, but be grateful for what we have got, not hankering after what we can't have. We must accept it won't be the same, for a long time. I really enjoyed watching the game on Saturday on my laptop. I've missed Rovers so much. My dog who is 7 months old came and gave me a little cuddle when I was shouting at the Bailey Wright decision, he thought I needed it.. he hasn't seen this side of me. I totally agree with you. Why can't everyone just play ball and be grateful for their health, 8hrs sleep, all their free time and stop desperately seeking something they can't have.
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Post by toteend3 on Sept 17, 2020 6:53:24 GMT
Its reassuring that with the Vat off that iam still mature!
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Post by mangogas15 on Sept 17, 2020 9:04:03 GMT
Its reassuring that with the Vat off that iam still mature! Like cheese or wine??
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JeffNZ
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Post by JeffNZ on Sept 17, 2020 11:12:28 GMT
Its reassuring that with the Vat off that iam still mature! Ah, another to add to the list: Getting drunk on Vat69 you stole from your Mum and Dads drinks cabinet.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 17, 2020 19:56:37 GMT
40 years old = young adult.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 22:57:12 GMT
40 years old = young adult. See what you mean. But these days it is, of a long enough lifespan.
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