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Post by emperorsuperbus on Sept 9, 2020 18:02:11 GMT
I wondered that, as soon as I saw the line-up to face Walsall, but then counted up the changes. (By changes, I think it means anyone chosen to play against Walsall who wasn't in the starting XI or used as a sub at Ipswich). So the changes were only: Kelly, Tutonda, Harries, Mehew and Walker. (Three of those were on the bench at Ipswich, in any case). Since we haven't played any League games this season, perhaps the changes rule didn't apply to this match, anyway. In an interview even before the Ipswich match, Ben Garner was dropping hints that he would be rotating the squad for the Walsall game. The performance against Ipswich was not to his liking, but I think he stuck to his plan, regardless. (Some might have thought that he should have played his strongest side against Walsall to speed the "gelling" process, but I think Garner stuck to his plan. There were signs that he used the Walsall game as something of a development experience: Kilgour captain - Baldwin in midfield). In that vein, I reckon he will change back to his "strongest" side to start up at Sunderland; I think only three of the team that started against Walsall will line up at the Stadium of Light. Jaakkola; Kilgour - Ehmer - Little; Leahy - Westbrooke - Grant - Hare; Mitchell-Lawson - Ayunga - Nicholson. Are we entering a phase, Ben has his preferred 11 and formation, and most of us fans don’t agree with it? yet if we choose our 11 and formation from this squad, none of use would agree either? with hare/little. Leahy/Kelly it has to be 3 2wb, ? At this point I don’t like the 2 3 he is playing in front the 5, the three spread across the front, I’d prefer 3 4 (wb) 1 2. A blend of 2 up front working together, pulling defenders off one another, maybe back to goal holder to hold it while we re group with presser beside him and an advanced midfielder filling the hole behind. cant though, because we’ve got too many wingers to work with. could be the squads fundamentally flawed if best 11 is wingers AND wing backs. At least 4 wingbacks who can dress themselves properly. Numerous wing options, likely on a good wage here. but centre forwards/finishers. Who are genuine centreforward/finishers not just someone who can play role there? it’s hard to pick a proper balanced 11 from this squad, because the balance of this squad woefully lacking in a very important characteristic? |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 10, 2020 1:06:23 GMT
Did I miss the post match interview after the Walsall game? Just wrap a load of excuses around the words 'me' and 'I' and you'll have one of Garner's interviews. That about covers it but he talked about many positives and this worries me. I think any manager should be able to say it was not a good game and what he feels he needs to improve it. He looked very red, lips almost blue. I don’t think lighting could do this, he looks poorly. I hope he is well |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 1:08:04 GMT
Are we entering a phase, Ben has his preferred 11 and formation, and most of us fans don’t agree with it? yet if we choose our 11 and formation from this squad, none of use would agree either? with hare/little. Leahy/Kelly it has to be 3 2wb, ? At this point I don’t like the 2 3 he is playing in front the 5, the three spread across the front, I’d prefer 3 4 (wb) 1 2. A blend of 2 up front working together, pulling defenders off one another, maybe back to goal holder to hold it while we re group with presser beside him and an advanced midfielder filling the hole behind. cant though, because we’ve got too many wingers to work with. could be the squads fundamentally flawed if best 11 is wingers AND wing backs. At least 4 wingbacks who can dress themselves properly. Numerous wing options, likely on a good wage here. but centre forwards/finishers. Who are genuine centreforward/finishers not just someone who can play role there? it’s hard to pick a proper balanced 11 from this squad, because the balance of this squad woefully lacking in a very important characteristic? Really? ayunga or daly who are strikers,how difficult is that? |
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 10, 2020 8:41:27 GMT
At least 4 wingbacks who can dress themselves properly. Numerous wing options, likely on a good wage here. but centre forwards/finishers. Who are genuine centreforward/finishers not just someone who can play role there? it’s hard to pick a proper balanced 11 from this squad, because the balance of this squad woefully lacking in a very important characteristic? Really? ayunga or daly who are strikers,how difficult is that? I think the difficulty would be that we do not have any strikers with League 1/2 experience. I like the look of Ayunga - but he's only played tier 5/6 football. (Though I see he did play on loan at Sligo Rovers in the Irish premier division). James Daly hasn't even played at that level - on loan at Kinstonian (tier 7). This is a concern. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 8:55:40 GMT
Just wrap a load of excuses around the words 'me' and 'I' and you'll have one of Garner's interviews. That about covers it but he talked about many positives and this worries me. I think any manager should be able to say it was not a good game and what he feels he needs to improve it. He looked very red, lips almost blue. I don’t think lighting could do this, he looks poorly. I hope he is well The point was that if you listen to him talking it exposes how he sees things. Constantly saying 'I' and 'Me' and talking from his personal perspective. He may be a difficult person to work with. Just a thought. |
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Post by TaiwanGas on Sept 10, 2020 10:16:32 GMT
Really? ayunga or daly who are strikers,how difficult is that? I think the difficulty would be that we do not have any strikers with League 1/2 experience. I like the look of Ayunga - but he's only played tier 5/6 football. (Though I see he did play on loan at Sligo Rovers in the Irish premier division). James Daly hasn't even played at that level - on loan at Kinstonian (tier 7). This is a concern. I agree it is a concern, but I fear this is the philosophy of Garner and Wael to introduce and play young un's hoping that they will make the grade, keep us in L1 to be sold on for profit asap. I honestly think that Garner is not interested in spending to bring in an experienced striker. Having said that, short on strikers we are, I cannot understand in this philosophy why Keiran Phillips has not been given a start in any of our pre-season gig's, deffo one of our own, already 18 year old, scored some cracking goals but has not featured, or are we waiting till he is older?, I just can't fathom it!.. |
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Post by chelt_gas on Sept 10, 2020 10:50:41 GMT
Garner is talking a good game, he’s definitely had media training. I think he has players that are all giving him attention without criticism given he has signed them all so I don’t think there’s division in the ranks. I even think it’s great he has a vision of playing strategy which he believes and is committed too. But my worry is the inexperience of the playing and coaching side that now runs through the club. The average age of the team v Walsall was 22 with Garner and his mate being first timers in a leadership role.
My unqualified opinion is that we firstly need more experience and a b'stard on the pitch and In the dugout we need more leadership instead of strategy from the management. I think Garner will come good I just think he needs a bit of Malcolm Tucker in him and us supporters need to stop wetting the bed so early.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 11:23:34 GMT
Garner is talking a good game, he’s definitely had media training. I think he has players that are all giving him attention without criticism given he has signed them all so I don’t think there’s division in the ranks. I even think it’s great he has a vision of playing strategy which he believes and is committed too. But my worry is the inexperience of the playing and coaching side that now runs through the club. The average age of the team v Walsall was 22 with Garner and his mate being first timers in a leadership role. My unqualified opinion is that we firstly need more experience and a b****** on the pitch and In the dugout we need more leadership instead of strategy from the management. I think Garner will come good I just think he needs a bit of Malcolm Tucker in him and us supporters need to stop wetting the bed so early. Is Coppell still hanging around? Things didn't improve at all last year after he arrived. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 12:09:39 GMT
Really? ayunga or daly who are strikers,how difficult is that? I think the difficulty would be that we do not have any strikers with League 1/2 experience. I like the look of Ayunga - but he's only played tier 5/6 football. (Though I see he did play on loan at Sligo Rovers in the Irish premier division). James Daly hasn't even played at that level - on loan at Kinstonian (tier 7). This is a concern. Thing is if were going down the young player route get them in and play them,plenty of experienced players have been poor at rovers in recent and past times. I cannot really fathom why we are signing anyone until we get some idea of when fans can return,i mean if its a long while the wages will drop drastically and it will just be a grim battle to survive. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 10, 2020 14:17:55 GMT
That about covers it but he talked about many positives and this worries me. I think any manager should be able to say it was not a good game and what he feels he needs to improve it. He looked very red, lips almost blue. I don’t think lighting could do this, he looks poorly. I hope he is well The point was that if you listen to him talking it exposes how he sees things. Constantly saying 'I' and 'Me' and talking from his personal perspective. He may be a difficult person to work with. Just a thought. Yes, It was pretty clear that he has his vision. I would imagine such a person could have owners thinking he is the man. I wish I could see something that gave me hope for better but I see a man who is determined to do it his way. Confidence is key for any team game and I am not seeing it nor am I reading it. I had hoped the pandemic would have been like a damascene experience for Ben and that he had, maybe, seen that this division needs more than pretty football. I have no ill will toward him but I also have no confidence in him. I, very much, hope I get proved very wrong. A nice win at Sunderland would be a good way to start on that UTG |
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Post by a more piratey game on Sept 10, 2020 14:35:17 GMT
The point was that if you listen to him talking it exposes how he sees things. Constantly saying 'I' and 'Me' and talking from his personal perspective. He may be a difficult person to work with. Just a thought. Yes, It was pretty clear that he has his vision. I would imagine such a person could have owners thinking he is the man. I wish I could see something that gave me hope for better but I see a man who is determined to do it his way. Confidence is key for any team game and I am not seeing it nor am I reading it. I had hoped the pandemic would have been like a damascene experiment for Ben and that he had, maybe, seen that this division needs more than pretty football. I have no ill will toward him but I also have no confidence in him. I, very much, hope I get proved very wrong. A nice win at Sunderland would be a good way to start on that UTG Did it only 3 competitive games ago, so no reason not to do it again |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 10, 2020 14:39:38 GMT
Yes, It was pretty clear that he has his vision. I would imagine such a person could have owners thinking he is the man. I wish I could see something that gave me hope for better but I see a man who is determined to do it his way. Confidence is key for any team game and I am not seeing it nor am I reading it. I had hoped the pandemic would have been like a damascene experiment for Ben and that he had, maybe, seen that this division needs more than pretty football. I have no ill will toward him but I also have no confidence in him. I, very much, hope I get proved very wrong. A nice win at Sunderland would be a good way to start on that UTG Did it only 3 competitive games ago, so no reason not to do it again It’s always a possibility, however far reached. As always, hoping for better |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Sept 10, 2020 20:58:11 GMT
Really? ayunga or daly who are strikers,how difficult is that? I think the difficulty would be that we do not have any strikers with League 1/2 experience. I like the look of Ayunga - but he's only played tier 5/6 football. (Though I see he did play on loan at Sligo Rovers in the Irish premier division). James Daly hasn't even played at that level - on loan at Kinstonian (tier 7). This is a concern. and if both of those are unavailable for selection, what other central strikers with a finish to them are you playing there? I can’t believe I can point out this squad is weak in that position and people actually argue with that. Lol |
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