kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 25, 2020 12:56:05 GMT
On occasion- not always- Bambi makes some good points and argues them well. I just get the feeling that if we ever all got together for a bit of a chat and a laugh before a game , someone would have to read out a pre prepared statement from him telling us why we shouldn't be meeting , drinking and laughing. It would be a bit like that episode of Blackadder where Edmund's Puritan aunt & uncle come to stay  The online persona is not always a good way to judge. All I can add is BG is a very decent human being. There are many who can seem foolly when using a pseudonym but who are totally different in reality |
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Post by laughinggas on Aug 25, 2020 14:04:46 GMT
That's the spirit! Hey - I don't disagree with your sentiment... I just don't know what can realistically be done about it? We could start by not subscribing to a Sky product, even if it does mean not seeing Rovers play on that platform. Having said that, there seems to be some doubt now about who / what games will be shown anyway? I'm guessing that we can still pay our fiver or whatever it is and see the games via Rovers' own streaming service? I would much rather do that. The way read it is it will be on ifollow, the EFL streaming platform. As per last season Sky give permission for live games to be shown in UK and Ireland, seems to be when no other games on apart for L1 L2, hence why we saw a few league games. As Sky have the rights to show EFL games they have to give the ok for games to be shown on Ifollow. Was £10 per game last year, but club said at renewal time season ticket holders can watch free if no crowds allowed. |
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warehamgas
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 25, 2020 22:24:52 GMT
Blimey, after just celebrating Somerset winning a cricket match I’ve just seen what Shoveller said and what’s been said since.
Christ, all I wanted to do was say that I like watching what we watch on Sky! And it’s a service that we choose to use but I understand others don’t. No problem despite what others want to make of it. Different opinions shock, horror on a football forum!
And I presume I’m the person who lives 15 miles away from Boscombe and should know about the drug problem! Well, having lived in Boscombe for a few years when first married in two different flats and having taught in schools in that part of Bournemouth I know full well about the problems in that area and the pressures families, children and others face daily. And it’s b***** all to do with Sky television.
And one other thing I learnt when living and working there, it’s full of good people trying to do their best in very trying conditions and for some families it’s hard. And you’ll find some great families, who are just like any other the world over. And I learnt not to stereotype an area by using pejorative terms such as “ Boscombe smackheads”.
The silly thing is I agree with much of what BG says most of the time but I accept that he appears not to like me or anywhere near Bournemouth but I guess I’ll just have to live with that.😉
UTG!
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 26, 2020 7:34:20 GMT
That's the spirit! Hey - I don't disagree with your sentiment... I just don't know what can realistically be done about it? We could start by not subscribing to a Sky product, even if it does mean not seeing Rovers play on that platform. Having said that, there seems to be some doubt now about who / what games will be shown anyway? I'm guessing that we can still pay our fiver or whatever it is and see the games via Rovers' own streaming service? I would much rather do that. So - Sky own the rights to televise EFL football. They've done a deal with iFollow to allow broadcast of EFL games (for Clubs that sign up to iFollow) for all fixtures. Previously it wasn't possible to watch Saturday 3pm kick-offs if you were a "UK resident". So that's the only change that I'm aware of. I don't think they've revealed the pricing policy yet. Previously it was £10 a game for UK residents and £5 for overseas. There must be some way of allowing users to view games it if they have a season ticket. IMHO £10 is a bit steep. |
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Post by laughinggas on Aug 26, 2020 7:45:02 GMT
£10 may be a little steep for one, but if the family can all watch seems good value.
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Rex
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Post by Rex on Aug 26, 2020 9:09:04 GMT
On occasion- not always- Bambi makes some good points and argues them well. I just get the feeling that if we ever all got together for a bit of a chat and a laugh before a game , someone would have to read out a pre prepared statement from him telling us why we shouldn't be meeting , drinking and laughing. It would be a bit like that episode of Blackadder where Edmund's Puritan aunt & uncle come to stay The online persona is not always a good way to judge. All I can add is BG is a very decent human being. There are many who can seem foolly when using a pseudonym but who are totally different in reality My tongue was firmly in cheek and although I don't know Bambi in 'real life' I'm pretty sure he realised that. |
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Post by laughinggas on Aug 26, 2020 9:28:34 GMT
Announced on club website.
If game not live on sky then will be on ifollow.
Home games free to season ticket holders.
Away games will be £10 per game.
While attendances are limited.
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Post by laughinggas on Aug 26, 2020 9:29:48 GMT
We could start by not subscribing to a Sky product, even if it does mean not seeing Rovers play on that platform. Having said that, there seems to be some doubt now about who / what games will be shown anyway? I'm guessing that we can still pay our fiver or whatever it is and see the games via Rovers' own streaming service? I would much rather do that. The way read it is it will be on ifollow, the EFL streaming platform. As per last season Sky give permission for live games to be shown in UK and Ireland, seems to be when no other games on apart for L1 L2, hence why we saw a few league games. As Sky have the rights to show EFL games they have to give the ok for games to be shown on Ifollow. Was £10 per game last year, but club said at renewal time season ticket holders can watch free if no crowds allowed. Should add £10 for home games if not season ticket holder |
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simonj
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Post by simonj on Aug 26, 2020 10:11:34 GMT
Nothing personal Bambi, but that did make me laugh. On a more serious note - I would be in favour of more regulation... but I'm not sure how this can be accomplished? The lowering of the stake to £2 for fixed odds machines was very welcome. I guess Government could limit advertising on TV and ban bookies appearing as sponsors on football/other sports shirts, but that's a relatively small part of the overall marketing strategy... When I crumble and place that first little flutter, just for fun, then end up losing everything and living in a cardboard box an underpass searching bins behind Burger King for yesterday's chips, penniless, crawling with lice, I'll remember your kind words of support. Sounds like something Paul Weller would write and sing about...... |
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 26, 2020 10:26:29 GMT
£10 may be a little steep for one, but if the family can all watch seems good value. Sadly my wife and daughters will have negligible interest in watching "the garnerball". In terms of comparisons - the obvious one to make is with a Now TV Sky day pass at £8.99. This gives 2 to 3 premiership games with a million camera angles, replays and (allegedly) quality punditry. On balance - you'd have to say that paying £10 to watch a one-off League 1 game with 1 camera angle... represents pretty poor value. If you're a lightweight supporter and like watching the premiership, where would you be spending your money on a Saturday afternoon? I just think the EFL have got the price point wrong. Regards, 'tightwad'. |
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Post by simonj on Aug 26, 2020 10:35:54 GMT
£10 may be a little steep for one, but if the family can all watch seems good value. Sadly my wife and daughters will have negligible interest in watching "the garnerball". In terms of comparisons - the obvious one to make is with a Now TV Sky day pass at £8.99. This gives 2 to 3 premiership games with a million camera angles, replays and (allegedly) quality punditry. On balance - you'd have to say that paying £10 to watch a one-off League 1 game with 1 camera angle... represents pretty poor value. If you're a lightweight supporter and like watching the premiership, where would you be spending your money on a Saturday afternoon? I just think the EFL have got the price point wrong. Regards, 'tightwad'. Dear tightwad, a fiver might be better, but its Rovers on telly, and my heart always overrules my head. Hence the mess I am always in. |
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 26, 2020 11:13:29 GMT
Sadly my wife and daughters will have negligible interest in watching "the garnerball". In terms of comparisons - the obvious one to make is with a Now TV Sky day pass at £8.99. This gives 2 to 3 premiership games with a million camera angles, replays and (allegedly) quality punditry. On balance - you'd have to say that paying £10 to watch a one-off League 1 game with 1 camera angle... represents pretty poor value. If you're a lightweight supporter and like watching the premiership, where would you be spending your money on a Saturday afternoon? I just think the EFL have got the price point wrong. Regards, 'tightwad'. Dear tightwad, a fiver might be better, but its Rovers on telly, and my heart always overrules my head. Hence the mess I am always in. Very Pertinent Note. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 26, 2020 15:19:48 GMT
Blimey, after just celebrating Somerset winning a cricket match UTG! SheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedHead!! Haha! |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Aug 26, 2020 16:14:40 GMT
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Post by a more piratey game on Aug 26, 2020 17:13:35 GMT
£10 may be a little steep for one, but if the family can all watch seems good value. Sadly my wife and daughters will have negligible interest in watching "the garnerball". In terms of comparisons - the obvious one to make is with a Now TV Sky day pass at £8.99. This gives 2 to 3 premiership games with a million camera angles, replays and (allegedly) quality punditry. On balance - you'd have to say that paying £10 to watch a one-off League 1 game with 1 camera angle... represents pretty poor value. If you're a lightweight supporter and like watching the premiership, where would you be spending your money on a Saturday afternoon? I just think the EFL have got the price point wrong. Regards, 'tightwad'. I fear you are missing the point A Now TV Sky day pass is a mass-market stack-em-high-and-sell-em-cheap product, akin to a pre-pandemic Home Bargains pack of loo roll, maybe Live online Bristol Rovers coverage is more akin to bespoke suits made in a backstreet market - sold in very small quantities, and not using the best of materials, but as close as possible to how Sir or Madam likes it |
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Post by laughinggas on Aug 26, 2020 18:43:33 GMT
Sadly my wife and daughters will have negligible interest in watching "the garnerball". In terms of comparisons - the obvious one to make is with a Now TV Sky day pass at £8.99. This gives 2 to 3 premiership games with a million camera angles, replays and (allegedly) quality punditry. On balance - you'd have to say that paying £10 to watch a one-off League 1 game with 1 camera angle... represents pretty poor value. If you're a lightweight supporter and like watching the premiership, where would you be spending your money on a Saturday afternoon? I just think the EFL have got the price point wrong. Regards, 'tightwad'. I fear you are missing the point A Now TV Sky day pass is a mass-market stack-em-high-and-sell-em-cheap product, akin to a pre-pandemic Home Bargains pack of loo roll, maybe Live online Bristol Rovers coverage is more akin to bespoke suits made in a backstreet market - sold in very small quantities, and not using the best of materials, but as close as possible to how Sir or Madam likes it And Ifollow has no adverts apart from those in ground.... I assume we will have the delights of radio Bristol as commentators, so some local knowledge! |
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Post by a more piratey game on Aug 26, 2020 19:06:14 GMT
Dear tightwad, a fiver might be better, but its Rovers on telly, and my heart always overrules my head. Hence the mess I am always in. Very Pertinent Note. Visible Panty Line they wouldn't get away with it nowadays |
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Post by billyocean on Aug 26, 2020 21:03:16 GMT
Why when people can't actually pay to go watch their team live is it still fair to charge overseas iFollowers £5 and home iFollowers £10? I understand the higher UK price in normal times as it discourages local people from attending, particularly on a wet and windy day or night. I think it should be the same price regardless of country until fans are allowed back into stadia. You can of course use certain services that make it seem like you're watching from Finland and pay the cheaper price but most people won't know how to set this up and may feel that they're stealing a fiver from the club. Some might invite a friend round to watch, charge them £5 saying we'll go halves mate and then pull the Finland trick and watch it for free |
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 26, 2020 21:21:15 GMT
Blimey, after just celebrating Somerset winning a cricket match UTG! SheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedHead!! Haha! 😀😀😀 But we did win, actually we hammered, um who was it? 😉 UTG! |
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Post by irishrover on Aug 26, 2020 22:59:26 GMT
Irish. The drug peddling hoody example was chosen deliberately. Firstly, it's very real across large parts of Bournemouth, no matter what someone who lives 15 miles from the place would have you believe. Secondly, that drug dealer, tempting his punter in with a few cheap deals, then when he/she is addicted being prepared to destroy his/her life for personal gain, is no different whatsoever to the gambling industry. I went onto YouTube this morning, just looking at something unrelated, before I could watch my video up pops an advert from Paddy Power, something about placing a 4 way bet and if 1 of them loses you get a 2nd bet 'for free'. Honestly, it's wholly pervasive and relentless. Yesterday I put a couple of searches into Google to find those figures that I quoted in a post, that's all it took for web spiders to target me as a potential 'mark' and now I'll have betting ads popping up everywhere for weeks. As you wisely point out, welcome to the wonderful world of the internet. I find your strong dislike of Bournemouth, and apparent annoyance with Wareham for enjoing living near there, to be bizarre as I've never had any particularly strong feelings about the place one way or the other and haven't been there for over a decade but each to their own.
The point about gambling I entirely sympathise with. A realistic plan to do something about it beyond a general 'down with this sort of thing' sentiment and very light touch regulation around advertising is hard to envisage though.
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