Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2020 20:53:15 GMT
GC had a back three, with demonstrable success. Craig supervised and mentored Kilgour and Menayese, who provided youth and pace that started to leave Craig. It worked. We rode high in the third division.
BG took over, for some reason.
BG had a back four, with demonstrable failure. Young boy Menayese was removed, as was the capacity to win football matches. 'What worked' was abandoned for Garnerball ideology that didn't. This was not pragmatic. This was dogmatic. Don't get me wrong, I love dogma. But Garnerball did not work with the 2019 BRFC footballers. Regardless of results, BG stuck to his guns. Long game. Season abandoned by BRFC long before poxy COVID-19.
Now I read BG's signed the backs to play a back three? I don't understand the man. Educate me.
|
|
|
|
Post by laughinggas on Aug 13, 2020 21:15:33 GMT
Maybe it's a case of he wants to play 3-4-3 as compared to 3-5-1-1 as before.
Maybe he now feels he has players at the back that can play the ball from the back.
But definitely GC has gone, so think it's time to put all that to bed.
|
|
basel
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 3,064 
|
Post by basel on Aug 13, 2020 21:23:37 GMT
I don't know what Ben's vision is Shoveller,but I've not attended any training sessions.He has I assume a solid strategy and plan.
Ben is a mystery.We've not had anything like him before at Rovers.
Picking up his era since last season was stopped,his passing game remains all theory.I say "remains" because except for a decent Sunderland game the performances and points return have been pitiful.
El Presidente Wael has now given Ben 'everything'.So I just hope it all works out and this as yet unseen BG style works out.
He's a likeable bloke and what happened regarding the GC exit had nothing to do with him but we still hav'nt seen his vision and so I think it understandable there are doubters.
There is a question mark over the Manager
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2020 21:34:39 GMT
But definitely GC has gone, so think it's time to put all that to bed. You lost me at the end, there. I like history. I like learning. Reflection upon the past is vital. But it was this season, mate. I disliked GC, and I disliked his football. I liked DC more, but I suppose I have to put that to bed too. I know it's a time ago, but you know, it still happened. I don't see why I should forget it. |
|
eppinggas
Administrator
Ian Alexander
Don't care
Joined: June 2014
Posts: 8,123
|
Post by eppinggas on Aug 14, 2020 8:12:47 GMT
I don't know what Ben's vision is Shoveller,but I've not attended any training sessions.He has I assume a solid strategy and plan. Ben is a mystery.We've not had anything like him before at Rovers. Picking up his era since last season was stopped,his passing game remains all theory.I say "remains" because except for a decent Sunderland game the performances and points return have been pitiful. El Presidente Wael has now given Ben 'everything'.So I just hope it all works out and this as yet unseen BG style works out. He's a likeable bloke and what happened regarding the GC exit had nothing to do with him but we still hav'nt seen his vision and so I think it understandable there are doubters. There is a question mark over the Manager I think Ben Garner is very lucky to have the total backing of Wael Al-Qadi. We would appear to be spending more money than possibly ever. Certainly our annual losses have never been higher, and Wael is underwriting them for the foreseeable future. We all owe Wael for this. (Sustainability can be discussed elsewhere). It would have been 'easier' for Wael to sack BG and bring in a 'name' over the last couple of months. But to be fair to Wael - he has stuck by his man and given him his full backing. No pressure Ben. |
|
basel
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 3,064
|
Post by basel on Aug 14, 2020 9:23:54 GMT
I don't know what Ben's vision is Shoveller,but I've not attended any training sessions.He has I assume a solid strategy and plan. Ben is a mystery.We've not had anything like him before at Rovers. Picking up his era since last season was stopped,his passing game remains all theory.I say "remains" because except for a decent Sunderland game the performances and points return have been pitiful. El Presidente Wael has now given Ben 'everything'.So I just hope it all works out and this as yet unseen BG style works out. He's a likeable bloke and what happened regarding the GC exit had nothing to do with him but we still hav'nt seen his vision and so I think it understandable there are doubters. There is a question mark over the Manager I think Ben Garner is very lucky to have the total backing of Wael Al-Qadi. We would appear to be spending more money than possibly ever. Certainly our annual losses have never been higher, and Wael is underwriting them for the foreseeable future. We all owe Wael for this. (Sustainability can be discussed elsewhere). It would have been 'easier' for Wael to sack BG and bring in a 'name' over the last couple of months. But to be fair to Wael - he has stuck by his man and given him his full backing. No pressure Ben. Yep,I can't remember a Rovers Manager being under such scrutiny and pressure. |
|
kingswood Polak
Without music life would be a mistake
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 10,255
|
Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 19, 2020 16:22:10 GMT
I think Ben Garner is very lucky to have the total backing of Wael Al-Qadi. We would appear to be spending more money than possibly ever. Certainly our annual losses have never been higher, and Wael is underwriting them for the foreseeable future. We all owe Wael for this. (Sustainability can be discussed elsewhere). It would have been 'easier' for Wael to sack BG and bring in a 'name' over the last couple of months. But to be fair to Wael - he has stuck by his man and given him his full backing. No pressure Ben. Yep,I can't remember a Rovers Manager being under such scrutiny and pressure. Buckle |
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 16:27:52 GMT
I think Ben Garner is very lucky to have the total backing of Wael Al-Qadi. We would appear to be spending more money than possibly ever. Certainly our annual losses have never been higher, and Wael is underwriting them for the foreseeable future. We all owe Wael for this. (Sustainability can be discussed elsewhere). It would have been 'easier' for Wael to sack BG and bring in a 'name' over the last couple of months. But to be fair to Wael - he has stuck by his man and given him his full backing. No pressure Ben. Yep,I can't remember a Rovers Manager being under such scrutiny and pressure. He’s never won an away game and has the second worst PPG and Win Percentage of any permanent Rovers appointment ever. Odd that people are still surprised. |
|
|
|
Post by Curly Wurly on Aug 19, 2020 17:36:30 GMT
Yep,I can't remember a Rovers Manager being under such scrutiny and pressure. He’s never won an away game and has the second worst PPG and Win Percentage of any permanent Rovers appointment ever. Odd that people are still surprised. The optimist in me says that Covid-19 has presented Ben Garner with an ideal chance to reset. The new signings are impressive on paper and early signs of a new style of play are promising.
It might all count for nothing when the season starts proper, but at the moment I've struck a line through last season and hope for the best.
|
|
basel
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 3,064
|
Post by basel on Aug 19, 2020 18:00:51 GMT
Yep,I can't remember a Rovers Manager being under such scrutiny and pressure. He’s never won an away game and has the second worst PPG and Win Percentage of any permanent Rovers appointment ever. Odd that people are still surprised. Quite. |
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2020 8:34:48 GMT
He’s never won an away game and has the second worst PPG and Win Percentage of any permanent Rovers appointment ever. Odd that people are still surprised. The optimist in me says that Covid-19 has presented Ben Garner with an ideal chance to reset. The new signings are impressive on paper and early signs of a new style of play are promising.
It might all count for nothing when the season starts proper, but at the moment I've struck a line through last season and hope for the best.
It's interesting that so many people have that approach. I think Garner is the only person on earth to have his job security improved by Covid-19. The timing in the halt of the season was fortunate for Garner as well, had the season stopped 3 days earlier his last game would have been a pummelling at relegated Southend. Now, I'm willing to give Garner a chance (I never thought he was the right man for the job and did originally) but, nothing I've seen from him thus far points to him being a football manager. It'll be interesting to see how many games in last seasons form comes into play again. |
|
|
|
Post by rowdenhill on Aug 20, 2020 8:44:10 GMT
Why don't you learn to write English.
|
|
|
|
Post by Curly Wurly on Aug 20, 2020 9:05:40 GMT
Why don't you learn to write English. U OK Hun? |
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2020 9:06:03 GMT
Why don't you learn to write English. Sorry, Row Denhill. I do write better English than most birds. But you're right: I can still improve. You might want to use a question mark, too. |
|
|
|
Post by rowdenhill on Aug 20, 2020 9:28:09 GMT
My remark wasn't aimed at you - eight posts back indeed.
Question marks are for the birds. Nearly as overused as exclamation marks...
Definitely redundant after interrogative adverbs.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2020 9:34:39 GMT
Why don't you learn to write English. Can't be arsed. |
|
basel
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 3,064
|
Post by basel on Aug 20, 2020 12:28:48 GMT
There can't be many (any?) Managers that have began with such an awful run of results at a club and gone on to succeed.
I hope Ben can do it a likeable bloke.
|
|
|
|
Post by mangogas15 on Aug 20, 2020 12:39:19 GMT
There can't be many (any?) Managers that have began with such an awful run of results at a club and gone on to succeed. I hope Ben can do it a likeable bloke. For me, he deserves it for sticking to his prinicples, especially with what happened with his daughter at xmas, rooting for him. |
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2020 12:44:15 GMT
My remark wasn't aimed at you - eight posts back indeed. Question marks are for the birds. Nearly as overused as exclamation marks... Definitely redundant after interrogative adverbs.Not at all. Can you provide any credible reference source to support that please? Back on topic. If Garner thinks he's going to get anywhere in this division with tippy-tappy tactics, it'll be interesting to see what happens when his wing backs get flattened by some 6 foot 4 monster for the 20th time in the first game whilst messing around with the ball trying to play out from the back. It's either going to be a spectacular success (5% chance) or we'll get beaten up all over the pitch and the players will be stood around looking confused wondering which of the hundreds of 'plays' he's shown them on his laptop they are supposed to be executing next (95% chance). |
|
|
|
Post by rowdenhill on Aug 20, 2020 14:59:13 GMT
You've heard of rhetorical questions, I suppose.
On interrogative adverbs specifically, try these authorities for starters: Derek Thompson, Mark Nichol, Bonnie Mills, Gertrude Stein.
It behoves everybody to be succinct and abstain from misplaced punctiliousness and daft, asinine, silly, puerile, stupid, brainless, foolish, idiotic, senseless repetitiveness.
|
|
