One day of the old normal or another monday? May 8, 2020 10:35:24 GMT via mobile kingswood Polak likes this
Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 8, 2020 10:35:24 GMT
So on VE Day, here's another ramble. English people are generally quite proud of the country of their birth. Most nationalities are. I think the Leave campaign tapped into this.
It particularly resonates with the older generation - as was born out in the demographic of the referendum result.
1. One could argue the older you are, the wiser you are. (Just kidding, no need to answer that).
2. The older generation identify much more with being English. The younger generation appear to be happy to identify with being European. The older generation are closer to WWII. Our parents and grandparents lived through it. What did you do when you played out as a kid? "Let's play war. England vs Germany". Alternatively cowboys and indians (Sorry cowboys vs indiginous native Americans).
We also have (perhaps a rose-tinted) perception of the UK and it's former empire, when we really were a global super-power. It only takes Captain Tom talking, Darkest Hour, or even a Dame Vera Lynne documentary and I get all nostalgic and very very "English". Stiff upper lip and all that.
Told you it was a bit of a ramble. Just trying to explain what it means to me to be English. On VE Day.
Eisern Union and Up The Gas.
I honestly think the notion of what it means to be English has lost it's identity and is culturally confused.
Your generational observations are very general. There are many examples of opposites.
But what it means to be 'English'?.... I'll give you an example, only inane and small but it makes a point:
St Patrick's Day is acknowledged by mainstream media in UK and I would hazard a guess in other places around the world (Eire and US/Canada obviously). It's even celebrated here by some folk whom have no identity with Ireland.
St George's Day is largely ignored. By everyone, except small pockets of folk whom identify with England. It's ignored by mainstream media, and up until very recently if you showed a Union or St George's flag you were either football hooligan it racist or both.
My last sentence resonates with your perception of Leave/Remain debate that still carries on and is a thought process to this day.
There should be nothing wrong with celebration of one's identity, but I think society has placed a huge guilt factor in celebration of everything English/British by bringing political ideology into a concept that is defacto is all about what is great about Great Britain and it's unity.