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Post by Colyton Gas. on Apr 27, 2020 13:12:19 GMT
Do hope Barrow come up.Worked hard and improved their Ground. at Holker Street which was once also used for Speedway.Well run club who failed in their 'Re-election bid' when the bottom four had to plead to stay in prior to the Conference promotion taking over,due entirely to their remote location.In those days,Halifax and Rochdale were perennial applicants.We did play there in an early FA Cup round in 2006 when Sean Rigg was assaulted by one of their players who got sent down.Barrow did beat us at the Mem in 2016 in the FA Cup.
Rigg returned to the Mem for Port Vale subsequently and scored a cracker when they demolished us.Recall Radio Stoke saying.'This Bristol side have no recognisable playing system and the stand on the far side looks more like a cricket pavilion'.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 13:18:21 GMT
Do hope Barrow come up.Worked hard and improved their Ground.Well run club who failed in their 'Re-election bid' when the bottom four had to plead to stay in prior to the Conference promotion taking over,due entirely to their remote location.In those days,Halifax and Rochdale were perennial applicants.We did play there in an early FA Cup round in 2006 when Sean Rigg was assaulted by one of their players who got sent down.Barrow did beat us at the Mem in 2016 in the FA Cup. Rigg returned to the Mem for Port Vale subsequently and scored a cracker when they demolished us.Recall Radio Stoke saying.'This Bristol side have no recognisable playing system and the stand on the far side looks more like a cricket pavilion'. They're only 4 points clear though... People speaking like they were 14 clear. |
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 27, 2020 13:42:45 GMT
I think League 1 and 2 will be cancelled soon, the league will be worked out on PPG with those in automatic places promoted. The Playoffs won't go ahead so our league will see the bottom three relegated and the top three from League Two promoted, 2 down from the Championship and one up from the Conference with Stevenage saved. In agreement. Apart from the bit in bold (unless my brain is working even slower than usual). So 2 down from the Prem 2 up from the championship, 2 down 2 up from Div 1, 2 down (we need to get back to 24 teams in Div 1)3 up from Div 2, 1 up from the Conference. All sorted. This also means Peterborough will be apoplectic. Marvellous. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 13:54:25 GMT
I think League 1 and 2 will be cancelled soon, the league will be worked out on PPG with those in automatic places promoted. The Playoffs won't go ahead so our league will see the bottom three relegated and the top three from League Two promoted, 2 down from the Championship and one up from the Conference with Stevenage saved. In agreement. Apart from the bit in bold (unless my brain is working even slower than usual). So 2 down from the Prem 2 up from the championship, 2 down 2 up from Div 1, 2 down (we need to get back to 24 teams in Div 1)3 up from Div 2, 1 up from the Conference. All sorted. This also means Peterborough will be apoplectic. Marvellous. Where are Bury, do they have any kind of plan to restructure? If this season is effectively removed from the record books does that mean that they can come back? Peterborough are second only to Gillingham as totally uninspiring, uninteresting football clubs that literally nobody would miss if the season started and they were accidentally left off of the fixture lists. |
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Post by irishrover on Apr 27, 2020 14:20:59 GMT
In agreement. Apart from the bit in bold (unless my brain is working even slower than usual). So 2 down from the Prem 2 up from the championship, 2 down 2 up from Div 1, 2 down (we need to get back to 24 teams in Div 1)3 up from Div 2, 1 up from the Conference. All sorted. This also means Peterborough will be apoplectic. Marvellous. Where are Bury, do they have any kind of plan to restructure? If this season is effectively removed from the record books does that mean that they can come back? Peterborough are second only to Gillingham as totally uninspiring, uninteresting football clubs that literally nobody would miss if the season started and they were accidentally left off of the fixture lists. That's an interesting one. Through cricket I spoke to a guy just before all this kicked off who is heavily involved in the Bury Phoenix Club. Their phoenix club is ready to go, they've raised the money, found a ground and will enter at the lowest level of the pyramid (North West County League). He thinks they have the backing of the vast majority of Bury fans and will start the long march back up the leagues. However, the charlatan who destroyed Bury still owns Gigg Lane and the existing club still exists as an entity I believe. It hasn't officially ceased to be. So he might be sniffing around for a possible reprieve here.
I assume if Epping/Chewie's scenario applies nothing would change from Bury's perspective although I suppose there may be some latent goodwill to perhaps slip Bury back into League 2 somehow. Although I doubt it and it would surely open up a legal can of worms for anyone who was relegated out the league or denied promotion from the conference. However, if the season was simply written off then maybe that would be a different story.
Most Bury fans I've spoken to are quite happy to back the Phoenix club though and start at the bottom.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 27, 2020 14:49:52 GMT
Gonna be interesting how the house of cards are going to topple.... because it's inevitable some will. Thanks for the likes, and I hope everyone can see the point that stopping the season part way through works for some and not others depending on when you decide to stop. There's still alot of football to be played, and even though we may not be able to go up or down, we can affect those whom potentially can. So we play an important part. As I see it the season has to finish. No matter how long it takes. I just can't see it myself. The Dutch top tier are cancelling - I think with a combination of Govt. advice and the financial implications of completing the season. The Accrington Chairman (well run Club, operate at a tiny profit, average gates roughly quarter of ours, embedded within their own community) has said if he was asked to play out the season behind closed doors, he would rather forfeit every game, get penalised and relegated to ensure that there is still a Club in existence next season. He talks a lot of sense IMHO. The polar opposite of Darrah MacAnthony. And the latest words of wisdom from Peterborough. Barry Fry (Dir. of football): www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/peterborough-uniteds-barry-fry-says-85-efl-clubs-want-2019-20-season-finish-and-he-believes-90-clubs-would-take-straight-talking-darragh-macanthony-their-chairman-2549504I'm really really beginning to despise that football Club. With good reason though |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 15:00:39 GMT
Where are Bury, do they have any kind of plan to restructure? If this season is effectively removed from the record books does that mean that they can come back? Peterborough are second only to Gillingham as totally uninspiring, uninteresting football clubs that literally nobody would miss if the season started and they were accidentally left off of the fixture lists. That's an interesting one. Through cricket I spoke to a guy just before all this kicked off who is heavily involved in the Bury Phoenix Club. Their phoenix club is ready to go, they've raised the money, found a ground and will enter at the lowest level of the pyramid (North West County League). He thinks they have the backing of the vast majority of Bury fans and will start the long march back up the leagues. However, the charlatan who destroyed Bury still owns Gigg Lane and the existing club still exists as an entity I believe. It hasn't officially ceased to be. So he might be sniffing around for a possible reprieve here.
I assume if Epping/Chewie's scenario applies nothing would change from Bury's perspective although I suppose there may be some latent goodwill to perhaps slip Bury back into League 2 somehow. Although I doubt it and it would surely open up a legal can of worms for anyone who was relegated out the league or denied promotion from the conference. However, if the season was simply written off then maybe that would be a different story.
Most Bury fans I've spoken to are quite happy to back the Phoenix club though and start at the bottom.
Bury are still technically going, they could launch an appeal and start next season in League 2 in theory. In reality I can't see that happen. That said, can the EFL just "let" Barrow in? |
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 27, 2020 15:51:22 GMT
That's an interesting one. Through cricket I spoke to a guy just before all this kicked off who is heavily involved in the Bury Phoenix Club. Their phoenix club is ready to go, they've raised the money, found a ground and will enter at the lowest level of the pyramid (North West County League). He thinks they have the backing of the vast majority of Bury fans and will start the long march back up the leagues. However, the charlatan who destroyed Bury still owns Gigg Lane and the existing club still exists as an entity I believe. It hasn't officially ceased to be. So he might be sniffing around for a possible reprieve here.
I assume if Epping/Chewie's scenario applies nothing would change from Bury's perspective although I suppose there may be some latent goodwill to perhaps slip Bury back into League 2 somehow. Although I doubt it and it would surely open up a legal can of worms for anyone who was relegated out the league or denied promotion from the conference. However, if the season was simply written off then maybe that would be a different story.
Most Bury fans I've spoken to are quite happy to back the Phoenix club though and start at the bottom.
Bury are still technically going, they could launch an appeal and start next season in League 2 in theory. In reality I can't see that happen. That said, can the EFL just "let" Barrow in? I think the clincher would be that Bury fans sound like they want to start at the bottom and re-build from there. I don't think the EFL would have a problem having Barrow promoted, because that would be in line with the (theoretical) ending of the EFL season now, and promoting/relegating "as is". There also isn't any need to apply a points per game to decide things anyway. All the promotion/relegation issues are clear. Peterborough cannot possibly be promoted. F*ck 'em. |
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Apr 27, 2020 15:52:08 GMT
Bury will be in the NW Counties league subject to the AGM .Amazingly the Isle of Man team have applied and the condition apparently is that they pay away teams travelling expenses ,Hotel etc for two seasons.My village team ,average gate 92 of Eccleshall in rural Staffordshire should in theory be playing them both next season.
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Post by irishrover on Apr 27, 2020 17:12:41 GMT
Bury will be in the NW Counties league subject to the AGM .Amazingly the Isle of Man team have applied and the condition apparently is that they pay away teams travelling expenses ,Hotel etc for two seasons.My village team ,average gate 92 of Eccleshall in rural Staffordshire should in theory be playing them both next season. That's becoming fairly common. Both Jersey and Guernsey do this. I guess if you have a rich person willing to put up the cash to make it work. Those away games must be the high point of the season for players slogging it out at that level! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 17:56:32 GMT
Bury will be in the NW Counties league subject to the AGM .Amazingly the Isle of Man team have applied and the condition apparently is that they pay away teams travelling expenses ,Hotel etc for two seasons.My village team ,average gate 92 of Eccleshall in rural Staffordshire should in theory be playing them both next season. That's becoming fairly common. Both Jersey and Guernsey do this. I guess if you have a rich person willing to put up the cash to make it work. Those away games must be the high point of the season for players slogging it out at that level! IoM away in Feb will be far from a high point. Laxey Wheel looks much better on post cards than in real life, and if you take away 100,000 mental motorcyclists, IoM is really rather dull. |
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 28, 2020 16:22:33 GMT
Quick update...
French League 1 & 2 now finished for the season. They're not voiding the season, UEFA have effectively removed that option anyway. France yet to decide on whether promotion/relegation happens or not (the former would be based on current/projected points total).
Germany Bundeliga and Budesliga 2 still looking at finishing the season behind closed doors (don't know about tiers below). Could start as early as May 9th. Damn efficient the Germans.
Belgium top tier cancelled (a little odd - all teams only had 1 game left to play).
Italy Serie A want to finish the season, however long it takes (subject to Government approval). Even suggested re-starting as late as August.
Spain La Liga - same as Italy, last of dates proposed to start again June 28th. Estimated La Liga could lose up to 1Bil euros. I guess Barcelona and Real Madrid lose a big chunk of this as they have their own negotiated TV deals.
I think the English top 2 tiers will replicate the German model, once they've shown us how to organise it. Tentatively proposed for early June.
And just to confuse the matter - FIFA medical chair has just suggested that seasons should not be completed!
A sh*t show worthy of a Bristol Rovers AGM.
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Post by lostinspace on Apr 28, 2020 16:34:03 GMT
Quick update... French League 1 & 2 now finished for the season. They're not voiding the season, UEFA have effectively removed that option anyway. France yet to decide on whether promotion/relegation happens or not (the former would be based on current/projected points total). Germany Bundeliga and Budesliga 2 still looking at finishing the season behind closed doors (don't know about tiers below). Could start as early as May 9th. Damn efficient the Germans. Belgium top tier cancelled (a little odd - all teams only had 1 game left to play). Italy Serie A want to finish the season, however long it takes (subject to Government approval). Even suggested re-starting as late as August. Spain La Liga - same as Italy, last of dates proposed to start again June 28th. Estimated La Liga could lose up to 1Bil euros. I guess Barcelona and Real Madrid lose a big chunk of this as they have their own negotiated TV deals. I think the English top 2 tiers will replicate the German model, once they've shown us how to organise it. Tentatively proposed for early June. And just to confuse the matter - FIFA medical chair has just suggested that seasons should not be completed! A sh*t show worthy of a Bristol Rovers AGM. Belgium have at the moment deferred a decision on cancelling the league until next week |
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Post by LPGas on Apr 28, 2020 20:15:02 GMT
Oldham have dispute with the bloke that owns their ground. If I was the owner of Oldham, I would try and move to Gigg Lane until the dispute is resolved. Its about half an hours drive at most
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 22:20:00 GMT
Its funny how people attack peterborough but year after year they play exiting attacking football exactly how i believe it should be played.
We played like that for 3 or arguably 4 seasons under DC but they have played great football for maybe 15 years?
Also had 2 promotions to the championship in that time.
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Post by irishrover on Apr 28, 2020 22:25:09 GMT
Its funny how people attack peterborough but year after year they play exiting attacking football exactly how i believe it should be played. We played like that for 3 or arguably 4 seasons under DC but they have played great football for maybe 15 years? Also had 2 promotions to the championship in that time. Those are all very fair points....I still don't like them though!
Doncaster's consistent capacity to play us off the park and compeltely outdo us in the competency stakes off the field is another one that's quite hard to take. I quite like Donny though.
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Apr 29, 2020 6:54:37 GMT
Its funny how people attack peterborough but year after year they play exiting attacking football exactly how i believe it should be played. We played like that for 3 or arguably 4 seasons under DC but they have played great football for maybe 15 years? Also had 2 promotions to the championship in that time. its a house of cards built on the funding of one man though. Peterborough doesn’t have the fan base or attendances to generally sustain that squad. |
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 29, 2020 8:46:57 GMT
Its funny how people attack peterborough but year after year they play exiting attacking football exactly how i believe it should be played. We played like that for 3 or arguably 4 seasons under DC but they have played great football for maybe 15 years? Also had 2 promotions to the championship in that time. Those are all very fair points....I still don't like them though! Doncaster's consistent capacity to play us off the park and compeltely outdo us in the competency stakes off the field is another one that's quite hard to take. I quite like Donny though.
Agree. Agree. And agree. I don't have a problem with the way Peterborough play - and they've been scoring goals for fun this CV season. Fine. Off the field they are bank-rolled by Darragh MacAnthony, who IMHO is an unpleasant human being. As Father suggests - they would be nothing without his one-man financial doping strategy. Barry Fry is their Director of Football, and I wouldn't trust him to go round the shops to buy a pint of milk. I am not a fan of Darren Ferguson, I often I wonder who helped him get into football? Other managers include Gary Johnson, Steve Evans and Barry Fry. All super lovely people. They charge (I believe) the highest prices for League 1 POTD games - £28 to watch from behind a goal. So I stopped going there a few seasons ago. Peterborough is in the fens, with a low gene pool to accompany it. They really do look "the same". An uneasy mix of eastern European immigration and 'locals'. The people who live there reflect the landscape, flat, boring and uninspired. A side with little history - they have only been a league side since 1960-61. So I would put them in a group of newbies that include mk dons, bcfc192, Morecambe, Crawley, Stevenage etc etc. They loaned us "alleged striker" Luke James for a season, that produced 0 (zero) goals from 24 appearances. They sold us apprentice hair-dresser and "alleged striker" Tom Nichols for £325k, who scored a prolific 4 goals from 93 appearances. Should Peterborough mysteriously disappear over-night, people may miss the Gothic cathedral and the ability to update their passport at short notice. AND NOTHING ELSE. I rest the case for the prosecution. No further questions. |
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Post by rowdenhill on Apr 29, 2020 8:53:52 GMT
Easy. Total social distancing. All remaining fixtures. All divisions. PENALTY SHOOTOUTS.
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