kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 25, 2020 13:36:14 GMT
Try buying one now. They go for anywhere from 15k up for fair examples or you can buy a project car for 4-5K. I wish I had my mark I cortina GT. They fetch thousands too. The lotus cortina is very big money and they don’t even stay advertised longer than a day. I found the Capri awful to handle. They would spin out very easily so my brothers used to stick a bag of cement in the boot to help, same with the E type jags they had Check what E-Types are selling for. Utterly bonkers for front heavy, unreliable rubbish cars, but they do look pretty funky. The car Enzo Ferrari drooled over though
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 25, 2020 13:37:12 GMT
If I remember well the V4’s were prone to pop a rod quite often. That’s what my brothers used to tell me anyway ? I do remember them buying a certain model of ford Corsair as they said they had Porsche made gearboxes. They would swap the gearbox out and replace with either Cortina or other than fit and I do remember them selling them for a good profit. Don’t know if it was true, maybe you can shed some light on that ? i remember dad buying a Granada that had the Taurus v 6 engine and they had problems with oil feed to one side of the cylinders and the fibre gear would breakdown too. He had 3 rebuild engines on the one car and because he loved it so much Don't know anything about gearbox swaps. Worked at main agent, doing PDI and servicing on those things, then went in to engine reconditioning, so know all about worn and failed fibre gears, but nothing about gearboxes. Ok. Thanks anyway
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Post by TaiwanGas on Mar 25, 2020 13:43:43 GMT
I just realised my first car was not a Vauxhall Cavalier, it was a BMW Isetta Bubble Car, sold it for 175.00 quid in 1980, how could I forget that!.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 25, 2020 13:44:27 GMT
I just realised my first car was not a Vauxhall Cavalier, it was a BMW Isetta Bubble Car, sold it for 175.00 quid in 1980, how could I forget that!. I venture that’s worth a lot now
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 25, 2020 13:46:42 GMT
Go on then, being very honest....
Favourite food - cottage pie but it’s got to be homemade. How old are you - too old, 64 How many tattoos - 0 Ever hit a deer - No, though there’s plenty around here Ridden in an ambulance - 4 times, 3 for me, once accompanying Ice skated - once Ridden a motorcycle - Yes Stayed in hospital - a few times when younger Last phone call- Mum Broken bones - plenty, two broken noses, or rather one nose broken on two occasions and a skull Favourite colour - blue and white as a combo. What else? Sunrise or Sunset - sunset Ocean or Mountain - Love them both but as my favourite place in the world is Swanage I’ll say ocean Favourite Movie - Ben Hur, the 1960 one not the recent one Mums name - Mum Favourite singer - Frankie Valli First car - Mini Cooper.
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Post by TaiwanGas on Mar 25, 2020 13:49:36 GMT
In all seriousness, was working in Clarke Bros on Muller Rd in 1978, servicing those things. The V4 2.0 was a good old engine, not bullet proof, the timing gears failed, cranks would also fail, and there was a crazy oil seal set up on the rear of the engine which leaked oil into the clutch area, but this is what engines were like in the 1970s, then they went over to the straight 4 OHC, that was a bit of a disaster, without getting too technical, the oil feed that lubricated the top of the engine failed, constantly, and Ford set it up so that you had to remove the cylinder head to repair the damage it caused. Did that job so many times, eventually I could get the head off of one of those in about 40 minutes. These days an engine with 100,000 miles is nothing, back then, 60,000 miles and you were starting to get nervous, waiting for the thing to fail. Youngsters today don't even know what a de-coke is If I remember well the V4’s were prone to pop a rod quite often. That’s what my brothers used to tell me anyway ? I do remember them buying a certain model of ford Corsair as they said they had Porsche made gearboxes. They would swap the gearbox out and replace with either Cortina or other than fit and I do remember them selling them for a good profit. Don’t know if it was true, maybe you can shed some light on that ? i remember dad buying a Granada that had the Taurus v 6 engine and they had problems with oil feed to one side of the cylinders and the fibre gear would breakdown too. He had 3 rebuild engines on the one car and because he loved it so much I had a Granada Scorpio 2.9i V6, Snapped a Cam Chain, took it to Clarkes and was told it was the first case of a Chain Snap on the V6, was lucky as the valves remained intact!.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 14:04:12 GMT
Check what E-Types are selling for. Utterly bonkers for front heavy, unreliable rubbish cars, but they do look pretty funky. The car Enzo Ferrari drooled over though Been tempted by Ferraris, but never managed to get past the cost of ownership, the last one I looked at had a projected life of something like 5000 miles for a clutch, replacement at independent specialist was £3500. Thanks, but no thanks. Anyway, going back to that era of Ford, working on the things put me off of ever owning one, very much built down to a standard rather than build a good product then work out how much you have to sell it for. To this day I've never owned a Ford, apart from 1 which it would have been rude not to have, it was a yellow Escort 1.6 Mexico which I did a straight swap for a Triumph Herald estate. The bloke was a builder and needed to be able to take tools / materials to his jobs. Oh, go on then, I'll do you a favour and do the deal
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 25, 2020 15:06:48 GMT
The car Enzo Ferrari drooled over though Been tempted by Ferraris, but never managed to get past the cost of ownership, the last one I looked at had a projected life of something like 5000 miles for a clutch, replacement at independent specialist was £3500. Thanks, but no thanks. Anyway, going back to that era of Ford, working on the things put me off of ever owning one, very much built down to a standard rather than build a good product then work out how much you have to sell it for. To this day I've never owned a Ford, apart from 1 which it would have been rude not to have, it was a yellow Escort 1.6 Mexico which I did a straight swap for a Triumph Herald estate. The bloke was a builder and needed to be able to take tools / materials to his jobs. Oh, go on then, I'll do you a favour and do the deal Always loved the look of Mark 1 Mexico and the mark 3. Id have loved to have owned one. I still would love a mark 2 lotus Cortina now. Was offered a mark 1 for just 2K around 10 years ago as the guy wanted quick cash as his divorce was going through. I felt it was dodgy so never bought it. My friend bought it and still has it, it was a genuine deal. I have lived to regret that
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 15:16:05 GMT
Been tempted by Ferraris, but never managed to get past the cost of ownership, the last one I looked at had a projected life of something like 5000 miles for a clutch, replacement at independent specialist was £3500. Thanks, but no thanks. Anyway, going back to that era of Ford, working on the things put me off of ever owning one, very much built down to a standard rather than build a good product then work out how much you have to sell it for. To this day I've never owned a Ford, apart from 1 which it would have been rude not to have, it was a yellow Escort 1.6 Mexico which I did a straight swap for a Triumph Herald estate. The bloke was a builder and needed to be able to take tools / materials to his jobs. Oh, go on then, I'll do you a favour and do the deal Always loved the look of Mark 1 Mexico and the mark 3. Id have loved to have owned one. I still would love a mark 2 lo tis Cortina now. Was offered a mark 1 for just 2K around 10 years ago as the guy wanted quick cash as his divorce was going through. I felt it was dodgy so never bought it. My friend bought it and still has it, it was a genuine deal. I have lived to regret that That Escort was a Mk 1, no idea what it's worth today, more than the equivalent Herald Estate I expect. This could be a new thread, best deals from people getting divorced / separating and looking to move on possessions for quick cash. I once bought a brand new Triton 7kw electric shower, with complete cubical and base, from the boot sale in Gardner's car park from some poor bloke who had been kicked out by his ex, £25 was his asking price, I didn't haggle. Sold the cubicle / base in Trade-It for more and got many years of use out of the shower itself.
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Post by mangogas15 on Mar 25, 2020 16:20:51 GMT
Back in the day when I was into sales - I was promised a white Ford Capri if I hit certain sales targets - Which I achieved the management however tucked me up and never did get that Capri. What fun in that 'beast' of a car I would have had - things in life could have turned out so different -UTG That is typical of any sales job. They keep moving the goalposts. I reached the lofty position of sales director and MD designate but I packed the whole lot in, after 18 years of it. Too much scrutiny now with trackers in cars and a55 lickers trying to undermine, at every juncture. Back in the 80’s you could do a deal in the morning that fulfilled your whole months target and be in the gym for a couple of hours as it was all about figures. Now, they want to know where you are all of the time and have a new level of management, who just check on where you are It’s an awful job now and one I’d want no part of. My view is that as long as you hit targets and surpass them then let them carry on. My teams were always top in the figures. I knew all the tricks but never pulled anyone up, so long as they were performing well. As a young rep in the plastics industry, I was promised 1.5% of every months figures , so long as they were hit. I got a deal worth 3 million and the company took that deal as a “ house account” and I never got a penny from it. Had I known then, what I know now, I’d have gone legal. Sales, or field sales, has become an awful job now I was even told they might get a bonus if i buy the other day. That's regulations. FCA. Scripted The old ways of selling still work, getting a customer to buy from you not the company, using tried and tested techniques like listening and asking what they're looking for. Too many people just sell on price which is easy. The best salesman was always the one who could sell the expensive
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 17:04:24 GMT
Not a chance. By the time you reached driving age Capris' were passe. I think I was in the States by that time. Could you see over the steering wheel? In all seriousness, was working in Clarke Bros on Muller Rd in 1978, servicing those things. The V4 2.0 was a good old engine, not bullet proof, the timing gears failed, cranks would also fail, and there was a crazy oil seal set up on the rear of the engine which leaked oil into the clutch area, but this is what engines were like in the 1970s, then they went over to the straight 4 OHC, that was a bit of a disaster, without getting too technical, the oil feed that lubricated the top of the engine failed, constantly, and Ford set it up so that you had to remove the cylinder head to repair the damage it caused. Did that job so many times, eventually I could get the head off of one of those in about 40 minutes. These days an engine with 100,000 miles is nothing, back then, 60,000 miles and you were starting to get nervous, waiting for the thing to fail. Youngsters today don't even know what a de-coke is A bit confused. Earlier in this thread is a post by Bamber Gashead who states he is 52. Given that I am 68 that makes him 16 years younger than me. That would be 9 years old in 1978. So very much doubt servicing cars. I had presumed that person was you,
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 17:51:49 GMT
In all seriousness, was working in Clarke Bros on Muller Rd in 1978, servicing those things. The V4 2.0 was a good old engine, not bullet proof, the timing gears failed, cranks would also fail, and there was a crazy oil seal set up on the rear of the engine which leaked oil into the clutch area, but this is what engines were like in the 1970s, then they went over to the straight 4 OHC, that was a bit of a disaster, without getting too technical, the oil feed that lubricated the top of the engine failed, constantly, and Ford set it up so that you had to remove the cylinder head to repair the damage it caused. Did that job so many times, eventually I could get the head off of one of those in about 40 minutes. These days an engine with 100,000 miles is nothing, back then, 60,000 miles and you were starting to get nervous, waiting for the thing to fail. Youngsters today don't even know what a de-coke is A bit confused. Earlier in this thread is a post by Bamber Gashead who states he is 52. Given that I am 68 that makes him 16 years younger than me. That would be 9 years old in 1978. So very much doubt servicing cars. I had presumed that person was you, No, not me, an imposter who doesn't share my charm, wit, not to mention sex appeal. But delighted to think that I still look 52, thank you Clarke Bros had some working practices that may be frowned on today, but they didn't extend to employing 9 year olds to service client's vehicles
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 19:54:34 GMT
A bit confused. Earlier in this thread is a post by Bamber Gashead who states he is 52. Given that I am 68 that makes him 16 years younger than me. That would be 9 years old in 1978. So very much doubt servicing cars. I had presumed that person was you, No, not me, an imposter who doesn't share my charm, wit, not to mention sex appeal. But delighted to think that I still look 52, thank you Clarke Bros had some working practices that may be frowned on today, but they didn't extend to employing 9 year olds to service client's vehicles Ok
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Post by Bamber Gashead on Mar 25, 2020 20:31:16 GMT
A bit confused. Earlier in this thread is a post by Bamber Gashead who states he is 52. Given that I am 68 that makes him 16 years younger than me. That would be 9 years old in 1978. So very much doubt servicing cars. I had presumed that person was you, No, not me, an imposter who doesn't share my charm, wit, not to mention sex appeal. But delighted to think that I still look 52, thank you Clarke Bros had some working practices that may be frowned on today, but they didn't extend to employing 9 year olds to service client's vehicles Ha ha! I wondered when someone would confuse us. I've been Bamber Gashead since the days of "50P The Gas Head!" as sold by JK at Twerton...
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Post by irishrover on Mar 25, 2020 21:18:08 GMT
Favourite food - Turkish How old are you - 36 How many tattoos - 0 Ever hit a deer - Neither with a car or in person Ridden in an ambulance - No - although I did have to follow behind one in Ireland last year for 50 Miles (slowest one in the world). Ice skated - No - I have no sense of balance and know my limitations. Couldn't even rollerskate as a kid and still can't ride a bike properly. Ridden a motorcycle - No - see above, it would be a bad move.... Stayed in hospital - Yes Last phone call- My partner who is currently putting in an 48 Hour shift in social care (the 3rd in 10 days) while most of the rest of us as are finding novel ways to waste time - guilty? just a bit.... Broken bones - No but I do have an annoying permanent dislocation of my index finger from a cricket injury. Favourite colour - Green Sunrise or Sunset - Sunrise; as nightowl I rarely see Sunrise. Ocean or Mountain - Mountain Favourite Movie - LA Confidential Mums name - Gill Favourite singer - Patti Smith First car - Vauhall Astra
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Post by toteend3 on Mar 25, 2020 23:34:17 GMT
Not to worry guys, escorts are still “working” 😂😉 Nah not for me clapped out clutch, prone to leakage and old dodgy bodywork just not worth the money!
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Post by toteend3 on Mar 26, 2020 2:29:19 GMT
Its 2am and I can't sleep I can't help thinking we all going to have a lot of time on our hands - Top gigs of mine from the 70\80s
a Hawkwind - Yeovil - Silver Machine b Queen - Taunton - Seven seas of rye c Groundhogs- Bildgwater - Cherry Red- d Rod Stewart - Weston - Maggie May e Arthur Brown - Glastonbury(pub) - Time Capitives f Black Sabbath - Bristol - War Pigs g Gary Glitter - Taunton - Do you want to be in my gang h James Brown - London - Pappas got a brand new bag i Uriah Heep - Bristol - Gypsy King j ELO -Weston - Wild West Heros k Specials - London -Ghost Town l Iggy Pop - Bristol - i'am bored m Pink Floyd -London - The Wall n Alex Harvey - bristol - Deliah O Dr Feelgood -Bristol - Down at the Doctors p Judge Dread - London - Little miss muffet
One I missed out on - Bowie - Taunton - sold ticket stayed in pub
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Post by TaiwanGas on Mar 26, 2020 8:20:41 GMT
70's/80s Gig's eh!, oh so many, but a few of my fav's are below.
The Jam - Bristol Uni Siouxie & the Banshees - Locarno Bristol Generation X - Locarno Bristol The Damned - Locarno Bristol (Abandoned - But fun while it lasted!). X-Ray Spex - Tiffany's Bristol The Who - Birmingham
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Post by badbloodash on Mar 26, 2020 9:25:26 GMT
70's/80s Gig's eh!, oh so many, but a few of my fav's are below. The Jam - Bristol Uni Siouxie & the Banshees - Locarno Bristol Generation X - Locarno Bristol The Damned - Locarno Bristol (Abandoned - But fun while it lasted!). X-Ray Spex - Tiffany's Bristol The Who - Birmingham Siouxie and the banshees B***** hill youth club after Southampton cup game the damned bristol Locarno specials/ madness/ selecter Swindon oasis center ub40/ Eddie grant ibiza town bullring u2 beerkeller about 20 people there david Bowie Milton Keynes bowl and I think I saw Edwin star make a cameo appearance at prince court club around 1980 going to search you tube now see if any footage of any of these seeing as I have 12 weeks solitary now Just remembered the clash exhibition shed after Millwall home game unbelievable night for all the wrong reasons
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 26, 2020 11:37:21 GMT
That is typical of any sales job. They keep moving the goalposts. I reached the lofty position of sales director and MD designate but I packed the whole lot in, after 18 years of it. Too much scrutiny now with trackers in cars and a55 lickers trying to undermine, at every juncture. Back in the 80’s you could do a deal in the morning that fulfilled your whole months target and be in the gym for a couple of hours as it was all about figures. Now, they want to know where you are all of the time and have a new level of management, who just check on where you are It’s an awful job now and one I’d want no part of. My view is that as long as you hit targets and surpass them then let them carry on. My teams were always top in the figures. I knew all the tricks but never pulled anyone up, so long as they were performing well. As a young rep in the plastics industry, I was promised 1.5% of every months figures , so long as they were hit. I got a deal worth 3 million and the company took that deal as a “ house account” and I never got a penny from it. Had I known then, what I know now, I’d have gone legal. Sales, or field sales, has become an awful job now I was even told they might get a bonus if i buy the other day. That's regulations. FCA. Scripted The old ways of selling still work, getting a customer to buy from you not the company, using tried and tested techniques like listening and asking what they're looking for. Too many people just sell on price which is easy. The best salesman was always the one who could sell the expensive Something I always drilled into my team was about the profit margin or bottom line. The inexperienced used to go in at full discount & hope it worked but many failed. I then put in place a commission scheme that rewarded the guys who sold but without using that discount and only going to a certain point. Using a loss leader often helped. We would always have the one profile that we sold at low price but made it up on the others. personally I used to get agitated when I was told but you have the gift of the gab, they didn’t understand that if you didn’t have the product and ability to negotiate then no amount of talking would get a sale. To be a good and profitable salesman is a fine art. I hated the sales courses management were sent on, bored me to death and was a waste of big money. John Cleese made a fortune in videos on sales techniques. We would be told never to approach a potential customer, when we did trade shows, using the words can I help you for crying out loud. Some of the owners really were idiots, who couldn’t sell anything. I’m very glad I left it behind as I was becoming a shark and not a nice person. I could never stop analysing body language, once I dud that course. It still can be a problem, now
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