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Post by Rex on Mar 15, 2020 12:52:15 GMT
The latest coronavirus advise to come from our leader is they are thinking of telling all over 70s to self isolate for 4 months. Didnt know he was being led by monty python remember remoaners saying f the old they voted brexit they will die soon then we can have another referendum ? i remember it !
Using this term nulls and voids any opinion you may have We may need another anchor.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 13:08:40 GMT
remember remoaners saying f the old they voted brexit they will die soon then we can have another referendum ? i remember it !
Using this term nulls and voids any opinion you may have We may need another anchor. so barmy boris/monty python is ok ?
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 15, 2020 13:23:38 GMT
quod erat demonstrandum
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 15, 2020 13:43:57 GMT
My problem is I dont trust any politician,and as such i treat everything they say with a high degree of scepticism and think what is in it for them.i may be in the minority but that's me,i would have made the same comment whichever party leader said it Mmmm... if you post a thread title that contains the phrase "barmy boris and his numpties" I feel it is safe to assume you have a political bias / agenda. It's sad that the world polarises itself. It's all gone very tribal. So from just that title and your comment I think I can deduce (please correct me if I'm wrong) that: You don't like Boris Johnson (well that's a given). You are pro-EU. You voted Labour (or even the LibDems - there are some funny folk about). You voted Remain. You liked the idea of a 2nd referendum (laughingly re-branded a "people's vote"). You are 100% behind Greta Thunberg and agree with everything she says, and do not think she is a puppet of her activist pushy parents. You hate Donald Trump (again that's a given). You think Meghan Markle has been unfairly attacked by the media, largely due to her ethnicity. You think that Prince Harry is doing a brave thing in leading his own life away from the glare of publicity and should not be a slave to public duty. You do not think Prince Harry is being manipulated by his (far more intelligent) wife. Go on - how many did I get right? Just a bit of fun - I'm not having a personal dig at you. It's the polarisation of debate and the default positions taken by the left and the right (even along non-political grounds) which I am alluding to. UTG!
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 15, 2020 14:26:53 GMT
...and if you're old, grey haired, then you don't fit the demographic!
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Post by irenesfather on Mar 15, 2020 14:28:55 GMT
My problem is I dont trust any politician,and as such i treat everything they say with a high degree of scepticism and think what is in it for them.i may be in the minority but that's me,i would have made the same comment whichever party leader said it Mmmm... if you post a thread title that contains the phrase "barmy boris and his numpties" I feel it is safe to assume you have a political bias / agenda. It's sad that the world polarises itself. It's all gone very tribal. So from just that title and your comment I think I can deduce (please correct me if I'm wrong) that: You don't like Boris Johnson (well that's a given). You are pro-EU. You voted Labour (or even the LibDems - there are some funny folk about). You voted Remain. You liked the idea of a 2nd referendum (laughingly re-branded a "people's vote"). You are 100% behind Greta Thunberg and agree with everything she says, and do not think she is a puppet of her activist pushy parents. You hate Donald Trump (again that's a given). You think Meghan Markle has been unfairly attacked by the media, largely due to her ethnicity. You think that Prince Harry is doing a brave thing in leading his own life away from the glare of publicity and should not be a slave to public duty. You do not think Prince Harry is being manipulated by his (far more intelligent) wife. Go on - how many did I get right? Just a bit of fun - I'm not having a personal dig at you. It's the polarisation of debate and the default positions taken by the left and the right (even along non-political grounds) which I am alluding to. UTG! Not bad but only 3
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Post by irenesfather on Mar 15, 2020 14:29:32 GMT
...and if you're old, grey haired, then you don't fit the demographic! What if you have no hair
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Post by Rex on Mar 15, 2020 15:04:14 GMT
Using this term nulls and voids any opinion you may have We may need another anchor. so barmy boris/monty python is ok ? No, as previously mentioned, it isn't.
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Post by swissgas on Mar 15, 2020 15:05:32 GMT
In order to bring the issues at hand into sharp relief, the government have decided to rename their strategy of combating Covid 19 as; THE PENSIONS LIABILITY REDUCTION PROGRAMME. To facilitate this everyone aged 70 or over will be confined to their current living spaces. This will be enforced by troops stationed in key areas in villages, towns and cities. No food or medical interventions will be allowed. The government has said this will free up resources in the coming years to enable them to cut taxes as the percentage of non working to the working population declines rapidly. You are Dr Henry Kissinger and I claim my $5
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Post by Rex on Mar 15, 2020 15:06:35 GMT
My problem is I dont trust any politician,and as such i treat everything they say with a high degree of scepticism and think what is in it for them.i may be in the minority but that's me,i would have made the same comment whichever party leader said it Mmmm... if you post a thread title that contains the phrase "barmy boris and his numpties" I feel it is safe to assume you have a political bias / agenda. It's sad that the world polarises itself. It's all gone very tribal. So from just that title and your comment I think I can deduce (please correct me if I'm wrong) that: You don't like Boris Johnson (well that's a given). You are pro-EU. You voted Labour (or even the LibDems - there are some funny folk about). You voted Remain. You liked the idea of a 2nd referendum (laughingly re-branded a "people's vote"). You are 100% behind Greta Thunberg and agree with everything she says, and do not think she is a puppet of her activist pushy parents. You hate Donald Trump (again that's a given). You think Meghan Markle has been unfairly attacked by the media, largely due to her ethnicity. You think that Prince Harry is doing a brave thing in leading his own life away from the glare of publicity and should not be a slave to public duty. You do not think Prince Harry is being manipulated by his (far more intelligent) wife. Go on - how many did I get right? Just a bit of fun - I'm not having a personal dig at you. It's the polarisation of debate and the default positions taken by the left and the right (even along non-political grounds) which I am alluding to. UTG! Fascist
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 15:22:49 GMT
Mmmm... if you post a thread title that contains the phrase "barmy boris and his numpties" I feel it is safe to assume you have a political bias / agenda. It's sad that the world polarises itself. It's all gone very tribal. So from just that title and your comment I think I can deduce (please correct me if I'm wrong) that: You don't like Boris Johnson (well that's a given). You are pro-EU. You voted Labour (or even the LibDems - there are some funny folk about). You voted Remain. You liked the idea of a 2nd referendum (laughingly re-branded a "people's vote"). You are 100% behind Greta Thunberg and agree with everything she says, and do not think she is a puppet of her activist pushy parents. You hate Donald Trump (again that's a given). You think Meghan Markle has been unfairly attacked by the media, largely due to her ethnicity. You think that Prince Harry is doing a brave thing in leading his own life away from the glare of publicity and should not be a slave to public duty. You do not think Prince Harry is being manipulated by his (far more intelligent) wife. Go on - how many did I get right? Just a bit of fun - I'm not having a personal dig at you. It's the polarisation of debate and the default positions taken by the left and the right (even along non-political grounds) which I am alluding to. UTG! Fascist And very presumptive.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 15, 2020 16:10:36 GMT
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Post by Rex on Mar 15, 2020 16:28:16 GMT
Fascist And very presumptive. To be fair, If he took the ones out that I couldn't give a monkeys on, he had 6 right and 1 wrong- quite a good strike rate!
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Mar 15, 2020 17:49:11 GMT
My problem is I dont trust any politician,and as such i treat everything they say with a high degree of scepticism and think what is in it for them.i may be in the minority but that's me,i would have made the same comment whichever party leader said it Mmmm... if you post a thread title that contains the phrase "barmy boris and his numpties" I feel it is safe to assume you have a political bias / agenda. It's sad that the world polarises itself. It's all gone very tribal. So from just that title and your comment I think I can deduce (please correct me if I'm wrong) that: You don't like Boris Johnson (well that's a given). You are pro-EU. You voted Labour (or even the LibDems - there are some funny folk about). You voted Remain. You liked the idea of a 2nd referendum (laughingly re-branded a "people's vote"). You are 100% behind Greta Thunberg and agree with everything she says, and do not think she is a puppet of her activist pushy parents. You hate Donald Trump (again that's a given). You think Meghan Markle has been unfairly attacked by the media, largely due to her ethnicity. You think that Prince Harry is doing a brave thing in leading his own life away from the glare of publicity and should not be a slave to public duty. You do not think Prince Harry is being manipulated by his (far more intelligent) wife. Go on - how many did I get right? Just a bit of fun - I'm not having a personal dig at you. It's the polarisation of debate and the default positions taken by the left and the right (even along non-political grounds) which I am alluding to. UTG! 8 for me, but I'd guess you take the opposite position on most of these so score 0 (or close to). A referendum with a binary yes/no choice on one of the most important matters in the history of our Nation was always going to be divisive and result in polarised and entrenched positions which ever way the outcome went. We should never have had a referendum on this - it was far too complex and important issue to be reduced to a binary choice like this. If we do think this is a sensible way to do politics, then let's have a load of others including whether or not we should keep nuclear weapons, whether we stay a monarchy or become a republic and whether or not we massively increase taxes on the wealthy and tax avoiding businesses. Divide and conquer is also the favourite tactic of the Nasty party - they've been using it to further their own interests (not for the good of the country) for as long as I can remember. I don't see any way the polarisation of views will be healed any time soon.
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Mar 15, 2020 18:01:00 GMT
Hi irenesfather. As a general rule we try and keep away from politics. Some other Forums are happy with that, but that's not the position taken here. There has been occasional Brexit banter, but that invariably ends up with people having polarised positions that do not change. This then descends into childish mud-slinging (in fact much like the way our politicians behave). In turn that makes things harder to moderate as things stray from Rovers specific topics. If other mods have a different view - then please chip in. I think an anchor probably is appropriate. (And I'm not using cockney rhyming slang for politicians). Just in the interest of balance and before the inevitable anchor appears, I'd like to say that I thought the PM spoke well at the initial news conference and did the sensible thing in listening to and taking the advice of experts. He offered the government advice, which for the large part sporting organisations and others chose to ignore, and now has the tricky task of changing that advice on a daily basis based on whatever crops up during the course of the previous day, all this while many members of the general public panic and spread misinformation on social media. Boris Johnson and his bunch of cronies, I think will prove to be an awful government for huge numbers of the population for a whole variety of reasons, but on this issue, I think he is doing pretty well. This is me, Rex Lowther, supporting Boris Johnson on an issue, make a note of the date, it's a once in a lifetime thing. I'm almost (grudgingly) in that place too Rex. Three things spring to mind though. 1. Following the experts advice was a bit of a free hit for Boris really. If it works as planned then he gets the plaudits for it. If it all goes horribly wrong then the experts are in the firing line and cop all the flak & blame. 2. It's quite amusing how after years of bashing and discrediting experts when it suited them, Boris and his cronies are now very keen to play up the fact that they are listening to them 3. There are a growing number of experts who seem to think the path we are following is the wrong one and a dangerous gamble with people's lives. Listening to the experts seems to me to be the right thing to do, so I hope they've picked the right ones to listen to, rather than the ones that further their own self interests best. I'm not well enough informed to know which these are and suspect because we are in uncharted territory that it's a gamble either way.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 18:01:20 GMT
Mmmm... if you post a thread title that contains the phrase "barmy boris and his numpties" I feel it is safe to assume you have a political bias / agenda. It's sad that the world polarises itself. It's all gone very tribal. So from just that title and your comment I think I can deduce (please correct me if I'm wrong) that: You don't like Boris Johnson (well that's a given). You are pro-EU. You voted Labour (or even the LibDems - there are some funny folk about). You voted Remain. You liked the idea of a 2nd referendum (laughingly re-branded a "people's vote"). You are 100% behind Greta Thunberg and agree with everything she says, and do not think she is a puppet of her activist pushy parents. You hate Donald Trump (again that's a given). You think Meghan Markle has been unfairly attacked by the media, largely due to her ethnicity. You think that Prince Harry is doing a brave thing in leading his own life away from the glare of publicity and should not be a slave to public duty. You do not think Prince Harry is being manipulated by his (far more intelligent) wife. Go on - how many did I get right? Just a bit of fun - I'm not having a personal dig at you. It's the polarisation of debate and the default positions taken by the left and the right (even along non-political grounds) which I am alluding to. UTG! 8 for me, but I'd guess you take the opposite position on most of these so score 0 (or close to). A referendum with a binary yes/no choice on one of the most important matters in the history of our Nation was always going to be divisive and result in polarised and entrenched positions which ever way the outcome went. We should never have had a referendum on this - it was far too complex and important issue to be reduced to a binary choice like this. If we do think this is a sensible way to do politics, then let's have a load of others including whether or not we should keep nuclear weapons, whether we stay a monarchy or become a republic and whether or not we massively increase taxes on the wealthy and tax avoiding businesses. Divide and conquer is also the favourite tactic of the Nasty party - they've been using it to further their own interests (not for the good of the country) for as long as I can remember. I don't see any way the polarisation of views will be healed any time soon. the ;nasty party ; went to the eu for a compromise and got the bums rush, a referendum was as fair a way to do it as any,
as for internal affairs we have an election every 5 years to decide which way the public want the country to go
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Post by irenesfather on Mar 15, 2020 18:03:35 GMT
Now you got me is that Martian or gibberish?
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Post by irenesfather on Mar 15, 2020 18:07:41 GMT
8 for me, but I'd guess you take the opposite position on most of these so score 0 (or close to). A referendum with a binary yes/no choice on one of the most important matters in the history of our Nation was always going to be divisive and result in polarised and entrenched positions which ever way the outcome went. We should never have had a referendum on this - it was far too complex and important issue to be reduced to a binary choice like this. If we do think this is a sensible way to do politics, then let's have a load of others including whether or not we should keep nuclear weapons, whether we stay a monarchy or become a republic and whether or not we massively increase taxes on the wealthy and tax avoiding businesses. Divide and conquer is also the favourite tactic of the Nasty party - they've been using it to further their own interests (not for the good of the country) for as long as I can remember. I don't see any way the polarisation of views will be healed any time soon. the ;nasty party ; went to the eu for a compromise and got the bums rush, a referendum was as fair a way to do it as any,
as for internal affairs we have an election every 5 years to decide which way the public want the country to go
But even then they are not a representation of the country and never will be unless we have proportional representation or compulsory voting couple with a fine for not doing so
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 18:12:37 GMT
Just in the interest of balance and before the inevitable anchor appears, I'd like to say that I thought the PM spoke well at the initial news conference and did the sensible thing in listening to and taking the advice of experts. He offered the government advice, which for the large part sporting organisations and others chose to ignore, and now has the tricky task of changing that advice on a daily basis based on whatever crops up during the course of the previous day, all this while many members of the general public panic and spread misinformation on social media. Boris Johnson and his bunch of cronies, I think will prove to be an awful government for huge numbers of the population for a whole variety of reasons, but on this issue, I think he is doing pretty well. This is me, Rex Lowther, supporting Boris Johnson on an issue, make a note of the date, it's a once in a lifetime thing. I'm almost (grudgingly) in that place too Rex. Three things spring to mind though. 1. Following the experts advice was a bit of a free hit for Boris really. If it works as planned then he gets the plaudits for it. If it all goes horribly wrong then the experts are in the firing line and cop all the flak & blame. 2. It's quite amusing how after years of bashing and discrediting experts when it suited them, Boris and his cronies are now very keen to play up the fact that they are listening to them 3. There are a growing number of experts who seem to think the path we are following is the wrong one and a dangerous gamble with people's lives. Listening to the experts seems to me to be the right thing to do, so I hope they've picked the right ones to listen to, rather than the ones that further their own self interests best. I'm not well enough informed to know which these are and suspect because we are in uncharted territory that it's a gamble either way. Your point two is so spot on and now ironic. That's the trouble with truth and facts, when you are lying, making it up or reliant upon hubris and base nationalism, truth always bites you in the ass. Their time will come
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 18:15:00 GMT
I think Uncle Eppers jumped the gun. This didn't need the anchor yet. We're meant to stay on topic. But the topic's football and there isn't any. Political and medical management of Covid 19, that's the only topic in town. But this is his house, nor mine.
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