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Post by fatherjackhackett on Mar 19, 2020 20:11:40 GMT
Football's three months away at least. We're in trouble. Lots of people close to you will catch this virus. People you know will more than likely die at some point. No football for three months is the least of my worries. As a chronic asthmatic I’m going to be in lockdown for 12 weeks probably from next week. I’ve voluntarily self isolated and am working from home. Two days in and I’m climbing the walls already. Oh yeah, on Monday my Mum had a cancer removed along with half a lung. I don’t know honestly when I will get to see her again. I trust Starnes, we are in a better place than many. Just get a bit of perspective about what is important nowadays please. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 20:24:02 GMT
Just get a bit of perspective about what is important nowadays please. Mate I only responded to the previous message that football's off until the end of April, to say that it's at least three months away, because shít's so serious. We're all serious about this virus, Father. It's already jeapordised the childhood of someone who means everything to me. I honestly don't care much about Rovers right now as a result, but chatting to gasheads on here gives me a little distraction and company, and he's a gashead himself so it's my scant comfort. Good health to you Father. |
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 20, 2020 8:36:47 GMT
Football's three months away at least. We're in trouble. Just get a bit of perspective about what is important nowadays please. Wishing you and your family the very best Father. I wish every Gashead, Sh*thead and any other type of head the very best. Leaving a comment on a football forum seems utterly meaningless and trivial right now, but I will continue to do it. It's a small distraction from the awful circumstances we find ourselves in. A lot of people will be missing out on 'normal' social interaction, so for that reason alone, I'd hate to see the forum dry up. Keep safe, and all the best. |
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 20, 2020 10:07:31 GMT
Dear disgruntled football managers, When you say that you've taken a team as far as you could, meaning that you've taken a team as far as it can go, you're an idiot. 'I've taken this club as far as I can' actually means that I am the limiting factor, that it's me who cannot take it any further or higher. If you mean 'I've taken this club as far as it can go' then kindly have the balls to say so. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Your sincerely, Supporters Yes shoveler I would agree normally. But this was GC, not the most articulate of managers when giving interviews, so I don’t expect him to be too clear. I usually had to sift through his stuff to get his real meaning “to be honest with ya.” That day his head was all over the place and he was obviously high on emotion. But you are absolutely right about say what you mean and mean what you say. But he is a football manager.😉 UTG! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 11:46:50 GMT
Until or if he comes clean and tells us why he decided to jump ship we will never know.but if you had seen,as I have,every game last year you would have realised that the style of football was unsustainable over a longer term. If in the unlikely event we had gotten promoted this season do you honestly think that against championship side,with more artiste strikers,we would have gotten away with 30 to 40 % possession every game Highly likely to be true - and if by some chance we lucked out again and got promoted we almost certainly wouldn't then be able to compete in the Premier League. And then if we got lucky again I really don't think it's realistic to think we'd have the squad to be able to win the Champions League and we couldn't possibly expect to defend our Premier League title and achieve 90s Man United level dominance.....so, you know, what's the point of even trying to win our next game?!
The point is not whether we had a decent shot or not. The point is that as a fan you want to see that play out on the pitch either way - that's kind of the whole purpose of being a fan - and there's very little evidence we even tried. As a fan you wonder what the point is if that's the best the AQ's are prepared to muster in that situation. Geoff Dunford never recovered his reputation with many for perceived failure to back Holloway in 99/00 (something I always thought was more Ollie propaganda than reality) - our current owners have gotten off very lightly for this far more egregious white flag waving exercise because Garner's particularly awful record makes for a good scapegoat. But I won't forget that we had a shot for promotion and didn't go for it - that simply shouldn't be acceptable.
Hear hear! The last time we had a serious go at promotion from this division was some 20 years ago! For the likes of us it’s a very rare opportunity indeed and yet it was pissed on by our board who hired, on paper, an absolute joke appointment. Sadly, it’s turned out to be an even worse appointment in reality than it was on paper! Like you say Irish, this should never be forgiven or forgotten but it looks like Wael has got off scot free with his reputation, what is left of it anyway, still seeming to be sufficient to keep supporters off his back. One win over Sunderland and, despite all the preceding defeats, people are now convinced that Ben is back in control of the bus and the brave new dawn of sexy football with other club’s youth is back on course. It’s a total shame that the apathy that pervades this club tolerates such constant sabotage of success. We might be rag bag Rovers but if we don’t take ourselves seriously and demand those at the top of the club do better, letting them off the hook with defeatist rubbish like “it was unsustainable anyway”, then what is the point? |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 20, 2020 12:56:51 GMT
Football's three months away at least. We're in trouble. Lots of people close to you will catch this virus. People you know will more than likely die at some point. No football for three months is the least of my worries. As a chronic asthmatic I’m going to be in lockdown for 12 weeks probably from next week. I’ve voluntarily self isolated and am working from home. Two days in and I’m climbing the walls already. Oh yeah, on Monday my Mum had a cancer removed along with half a lung. I don’t know honestly when I will get to see her again. I trust Starnes, we are in a better place than many. Just get a bit of perspective about what is important nowadays please. I, very much, feel for you. I had mum with Alzheimer’s and dad with colorectal cancer, at the same time. I was their only visitor and was visiting both, in 2 different hospitals, twice each day for both. 15 weeks before dad came home and then I only had mum to visit but it was a living nightmare in trying to talk with her. She’d call me by my brothers names and so much more. I would say make sure you look after yourself first as it’s too easy to not do that and then your mum would have no support from you and things can get out if hand and quickly Good luck and GOD bless you. |
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Post by irishrover on Mar 20, 2020 13:18:19 GMT
Highly likely to be true - and if by some chance we lucked out again and got promoted we almost certainly wouldn't then be able to compete in the Premier League. And then if we got lucky again I really don't think it's realistic to think we'd have the squad to be able to win the Champions League and we couldn't possibly expect to defend our Premier League title and achieve 90s Man United level dominance.....so, you know, what's the point of even trying to win our next game?!
The point is not whether we had a decent shot or not. The point is that as a fan you want to see that play out on the pitch either way - that's kind of the whole purpose of being a fan - and there's very little evidence we even tried. As a fan you wonder what the point is if that's the best the AQ's are prepared to muster in that situation. Geoff Dunford never recovered his reputation with many for perceived failure to back Holloway in 99/00 (something I always thought was more Ollie propaganda than reality) - our current owners have gotten off very lightly for this far more egregious white flag waving exercise because Garner's particularly awful record makes for a good scapegoat. But I won't forget that we had a shot for promotion and didn't go for it - that simply shouldn't be acceptable.
Hear hear! The last time we had a serious go at promotion from this division was some 20 years ago! For the likes of us it’s a very rare opportunity indeed and yet it was pissed on by our board who hired, on paper, an absolute joke appointment. Sadly, it’s turned out to be an even worse appointment in reality than it was on paper! Like you say Irish, this should never be forgiven or forgotten but it looks like Wael has got off scot free with his reputation, what is left of it anyway, still seeming to be sufficient to keep supporters off his back. One win over Sunderland and, despite all the preceding defeats, people are now convinced that Ben is back in control of the bus and the brave new dawn of sexy football with other club’s youth is back on course. It’s a total shame that the apathy that pervades this club tolerates such constant sabotage of success. We might be rag bag Rovers but if we don’t take ourselves seriously and demand those at the top of the club do better, letting them off the hook with defeatist rubbish like “it was unsustainable anyway”, then what is the point? I wouldn't go quite as far as you. In the sense that I think Garner may still be able to salvage the situation or at least he's clearly going to get the opportunity to see if he can. I think I see it as 2 separate parts of a single case. 1. A decision to shift gears midseason when we'd built a strong position and 2. The decision to hire Ben Garner instead of somebody else to oversee this shift. On Part 1, I think our board are entirely guilty of showing contempt to the fanbase. On part 2 the body of evidence does not look and it is very much leaning one way but the judge has been very lenient and there still remains time for the defence to turn it around.
The point is that I don't blame Garner for our failure to go for promotion when it was obvious that he wasn't hired for that purpose. Very clear from his first utterings that he had little to no interest in 'going for it' this season. This was a longer term project. Madness it might be but it's primarily the madness of those above him. From his point of view it appears he is doing what he said he'd do - transforming an inadequate overpaid squad. I'm sure he'd have wanted better results but it would make no fundamental difference to that first scenario if we we had won 2 or 3 more games over that period (which despite everything we could easily have done). The point is if we were 11th on 51 points (or even 10th on 54) intead of 14th on 45 I don't think it would make any difference to the key crime which is that we didn't chose to go for it.
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Post by TaiwanGas on Mar 20, 2020 15:36:31 GMT
Hear hear! The last time we had a serious go at promotion from this division was some 20 years ago! For the likes of us it’s a very rare opportunity indeed and yet it was pissed on by our board who hired, on paper, an absolute joke appointment. Sadly, it’s turned out to be an even worse appointment in reality than it was on paper! Like you say Irish, this should never be forgiven or forgotten but it looks like Wael has got off scot free with his reputation, what is left of it anyway, still seeming to be sufficient to keep supporters off his back. One win over Sunderland and, despite all the preceding defeats, people are now convinced that Ben is back in control of the bus and the brave new dawn of sexy football with other club’s youth is back on course. It’s a total shame that the apathy that pervades this club tolerates such constant sabotage of success. We might be rag bag Rovers but if we don’t take ourselves seriously and demand those at the top of the club do better, letting them off the hook with defeatist rubbish like “it was unsustainable anyway”, then what is the point? I wouldn't go quite as far as you. In the sense that I think Garner may still be able to salvage the situation or at least he's clearly going to get the opportunity to see if he can. I think I see it as 2 separate parts of a single case. 1. A decision to shift gears midseason when we'd built a strong position and 2. The decision to hire Ben Garner instead of somebody else to oversee this shift. On Part 1, I think our board are entirely guilty of showing contempt to the fanbase. On part 2 the body of evidence does not look and it is very much leaning one way but the judge has been very lenient and there still remains time for the defence to turn it around.
The point is that I don't blame Garner for our failure to go for promotion when it was obvious that he wasn't hired for that purpose. Very clear from his first utterings that he had little to no interest in 'going for it' this season. This was a longer term project. Madness it might be but it's primarily the madness of those above him. From his point of view it appears he is doing what he said he'd do - transforming an inadequate overpaid squad. I'm sure he'd have wanted better results but it would make no fundamental difference to that first scenario if we we had won 2 or 3 more games over that period (which despite everything we could easily have done). The point is if we were 11th on 51 points (or even 10th on 54) intead of 14th on 45 I don't think it would make any difference to the key crime which is that we didn't chose to go for it.
I can go along with that Irish. I think between you and wmgas is how I see it. In fact I had pondered a lengthy reply on the subject, but my temperature started to rise as the words started to flow and then a little voice in my head, the voice of apathy, started to tell me that we are lucky to still have a football club, and don't you forget it, damn that voice!. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 15:58:58 GMT
Football's three months away at least. We're in trouble. Lots of people close to you will catch this virus. People you know will more than likely die at some point. No football for three months is the least of my worries. As a chronic asthmatic I’m going to be in lockdown for 12 weeks probably from next week. I’ve voluntarily self isolated and am working from home. Two days in and I’m climbing the walls already. Oh yeah, on Monday my Mum had a cancer removed along with half a lung. I don’t know honestly when I will get to see her again. I trust Starnes, we are in a better place than many. Just get a bit of perspective about what is important nowadays please. Brilliantly put mate. Get on the phone any time. |
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Post by trymer on Mar 20, 2020 18:47:40 GMT
Wow,some real negativity on this thread,it must be bad when the pedants make spelling mistakes and don't correct them !
Ok things are looking bad,a lot of shops,pubs etc are going to close forever because of this virus sadly I think that Rovers (and other football clubs) could be finished (I hope that I am wrong of course).
The gym is a big part of my life and I will miss it,however I have a few weights at home and this week I have bought a Foam roller and Resistance bands (prepare for the worst but hope for the best) and I will try and do some kind of workout including Pilates and stretching every day,also going to go running on the Downs as soon as its light in the morning.
Try and stay positive,most of us will get through this and although it will be a very different society (possibly like the 1920's ?) things will gradually recover.
Do try and do some exercise its good for your mental health as well as your physical health....don't go on the p1ss,in fact maybe now would be a good time to give up.
I know people who went through very tough times and they survived so we can too.
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Post by lostinspace on Mar 20, 2020 19:23:54 GMT
Wow,some real negativity on this thread,it must be bad when the pedants make spelling mistakes and don't correct them ! Ok things are looking bad,a lot of shops,pubs etc are going to close forever because of this virus sadly I think that Rovers (and other football clubs) could be finished (I hope that I am wrong of course). The gym is a big part of my life and I will miss it,however I have a few weights at home and this week I have bought a Foam roller and Resistance bands (prepare for the worst but hope for the best) and I will try and do some kind of workout including Pilates and stretching every day,also going to go running on the Downs as soon as its light in the morning. Try and stay positive,most of us will get through this and although it will be a very different society (possibly like the 1920's ?) things will gradually recover. Do try and do some exercise its good for your mental health as well as your physical health....don't go on the p1ss,in fact maybe now would be a good time to give up. I know people who went through very tough times and they survived so we can too. SO... up at 5:30 AM then  |
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 20, 2020 22:41:02 GMT
Wow,some real negativity on this thread,it must be bad when the pedants make spelling mistakes and don't correct them ! Ok things are looking bad,a lot of shops,pubs etc are going to close forever because of this virus sadly I think that Rovers (and other football clubs) could be finished (I hope that I am wrong of course). The gym is a big part of my life and I will miss it,however I have a few weights at home and this week I have bought a Foam roller and Resistance bands (prepare for the worst but hope for the best) and I will try and do some kind of workout including Pilates and stretching every day,also going to go running on the Downs as soon as its light in the morning. Try and stay positive,most of us will get through this and although it will be a very different society (possibly like the 1920's ?) things will gradually recover. Do try and do some exercise its good for your mental health as well as your physical health....don't go on the p1ss,in fact maybe now would be a good time to give up. I know people who went through very tough times and they survived so we can too. Wise words. They often say that the 'miracle pill' is in fact regular exercise. Luckily I flipped from gym work / running to cycling a few years ago. Cycling is physically (and also mentally) nothing but good for anyone. The body and the soul. I unreservedly recommend it. Ironically I've just had a couple of dry months and was effectively socially self-isolated during that time. Keep Safe & Up The Gas. |
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Post by trymer on Mar 21, 2020 4:59:21 GMT
Wow,some real negativity on this thread,it must be bad when the pedants make spelling mistakes and don't correct them ! Ok things are looking bad,a lot of shops,pubs etc are going to close forever because of this virus sadly I think that Rovers (and other football clubs) could be finished (I hope that I am wrong of course). The gym is a big part of my life and I will miss it,however I have a few weights at home and this week I have bought a Foam roller and Resistance bands (prepare for the worst but hope for the best) and I will try and do some kind of workout including Pilates and stretching every day,also going to go running on the Downs as soon as its light in the morning. Try and stay positive,most of us will get through this and although it will be a very different society (possibly like the 1920's ?) things will gradually recover. Do try and do some exercise its good for your mental health as well as your physical health....don't go on the p1ss,in fact maybe now would be a good time to give up. I know people who went through very tough times and they survived so we can too. SO... up at 5:30 AM then Getting up at 5.00 AM isn't so bad. |
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Post by trymer on Mar 21, 2020 5:04:22 GMT
Wow,some real negativity on this thread,it must be bad when the pedants make spelling mistakes and don't correct them ! Ok things are looking bad,a lot of shops,pubs etc are going to close forever because of this virus sadly I think that Rovers (and other football clubs) could be finished (I hope that I am wrong of course). The gym is a big part of my life and I will miss it,however I have a few weights at home and this week I have bought a Foam roller and Resistance bands (prepare for the worst but hope for the best) and I will try and do some kind of workout including Pilates and stretching every day,also going to go running on the Downs as soon as its light in the morning. Try and stay positive,most of us will get through this and although it will be a very different society (possibly like the 1920's ?) things will gradually recover. Do try and do some exercise its good for your mental health as well as your physical health....don't go on the p1ss,in fact maybe now would be a good time to give up. I know people who went through very tough times and they survived so we can too. Wise words. They often say that the 'miracle pill' is in fact regular exercise. Luckily I flipped from gym work / running to cycling a few years ago. Cycling is physically (and also mentally) nothing but good for anyone. The body and the soul. I unreservedly recommend it. Ironically I've just had a couple of dry months and was effectively socially self-isolated during that time. Keep Safe & Up The Gas. Looking at things in a positive way maybe lots of people who don't exercise will start now that they have spare time to fill,someone said that the Green Goddess from the 80s is back on TV (I don't have a TV ) if that's true it may encourage people to try exercise. |
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Post by lostinspace on Mar 23, 2020 21:39:44 GMT
so after tonight's decision to virtually "lockdown" the UK surely this puts a different perspective on those Premeirship and Championship teams wanting to finish the season"because they need to.... well sorry what with all the selfish bar stewards having the early bank holidays at the weekend then my view is to write it all off, any situation that was in place at the start of the 19/20 season will be implemented IF the 20/21 season is able to get underway... life is more important than a few football teams
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 24, 2020 12:00:04 GMT
so after tonight's decision to virtually "lockdown" the UK surely this puts a different perspective on those Premeirship and Championship teams wanting to finish the season"because they need to.... well sorry what with all the selfish bar stewards having the early bank holidays at the weekend then my view is to write it all off, any situation that was in place at the start of the 19/20 season will be implemented IF the 20/21 season is able to get underway... life is more important than a few football teams Well said. |
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 24, 2020 12:54:06 GMT
so after tonight's decision to virtually "lockdown" the UK surely this puts a different perspective on those Premeirship and Championship teams wanting to finish the season"because they need to.... well sorry what with all the selfish bar stewards having the early bank holidays at the weekend then my view is to write it all off, any situation that was in place at the start of the 19/20 season will be implemented IF the 20/21 season is able to get underway... life is more important than a few football teams Well said. Agreed. And on a note of positivity. When things return to 'normal' (whatever the new 'normal' is)... perhaps lower league football will be helped by the Government. Why would they? Well post WWII, rationing and personal hardship - that was when football had it's golden period and record gates. Communal gatherings (remember them?) might possibly be encouraged. Football Clubs embedded in the community might really be able to offer something. "We're all in this together" type stuff. I feel conflicted. There are obviously far more things to be concerned about than writing about the problems faced by Football Clubs. However it's a distraction from the problems that we all face. Keep Safe and Up The Gas. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 22:06:30 GMT
Agreed. And on a note of positivity. When things return to 'normal' (whatever the new 'normal' is)... perhaps lower league football will be helped by the Government. Why would they? Well post WWII, rationing and personal hardship - that was when football had it's golden period and record gates. Communal gatherings (remember them?) might possibly be encouraged. Football Clubs embedded in the community might really be able to offer something. "We're all in this together" type stuff. I feel conflicted. There are obviously far more things to be concerned about than writing about the problems faced by Football Clubs. However it's a distraction from the problems that we all face. Keep Safe and Up The Gas. Stay safe folks, this is going to get a lot worse not just for us older folk! Today as part of my employment I have delivered face masks to the biggest hospital in oxfordshire and it is heartbreaking just looking at the faces of the staff we are supplying. Honestly think that April will not happen, write it off now! Thought I could walk away from this family but it is not that easy, please stay at home! |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 25, 2020 12:00:02 GMT
Agreed. And on a note of positivity. When things return to 'normal' (whatever the new 'normal' is)... perhaps lower league football will be helped by the Government. Why would they? Well post WWII, rationing and personal hardship - that was when football had it's golden period and record gates. Communal gatherings (remember them?) might possibly be encouraged. Football Clubs embedded in the community might really be able to offer something. "We're all in this together" type stuff. I feel conflicted. There are obviously far more things to be concerned about than writing about the problems faced by Football Clubs. However it's a distraction from the problems that we all face. Keep Safe and Up The Gas. Stay safe folks, this is going to get a lot worse not just for us older folk! Today as part of my employment I have delivered face masks to the biggest hospital in oxfordshire and it is heartbreaking just looking at the faces of the staff we are supplying. Honestly think that April will not happen, write it off now! Thought I could walk away from this family but it is not that easy, please stay at home! Very good advice. I know of 5 people who have the virus and they have been in contact with many others due to the nature of their work. A part of me would rather get it and hopefully fight it off and build immunity to it but the scientists are quarrelling if this is the case here b I got a text saying that I shouldn’t go out at all and even get my meds delivered and my GP is even giving my controlled drugs much earlier & telling me he will continue to do this, so that I have a stash as he believes that certain medication could become difficult to obtain. 5hit just got real |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 12:18:23 GMT
Stay safe folks, this is going to get a lot worse not just for us older folk! Today as part of my employment I have delivered face masks to the biggest hospital in oxfordshire and it is heartbreaking just looking at the faces of the staff we are supplying. Honestly think that April will not happen, write it off now! Thought I could walk away from this family but it is not that easy, please stay at home! Very good advice. I know of 5 people who have the virus and they have been in contact with many others due to the nature of their work. A part of me would rather get it and hopefully fight it off and build immunity to it but the scientists are quarrelling if this is the case here b I got a text saying that I shouldn’t go out at all and even get my meds delivered and my GP is even giving my controlled drugs much earlier & telling me he will continue to do this, so that I have a stash as he believes that certain medication could become difficult to obtain. 5hit just got real Her indoors has been saying since December that we should shut all borders and only allow our own citizens in, but quarantine them on arrival. She's been saying that we have a privileged position as an island and should have used it to our advantage. Too late now. |
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